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kekgeek1 wrote:Also how bad is Glen Taylor. How do you fire Thibs because he is hard to work with. Then end up hiring a similar toxic personality and a person who had an affair on his wife at the office.

Damn Glen sucks


What's funny is that Tom Thibodeau was fired in Minnesota after their most successful season in decades and then went back to his winning ways in New York and now Glen Taylor and the gang get to clean this mess up. Insert the infamous Thibs laughing gif here.
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kekgeek1 wrote:Also how bad is Glen Taylor. How do you fire Thibs because he is hard to work with. Then end up hiring a similar toxic personality and a person who had an affair on his wife at the office.

Damn Glen sucks


It's pretty amazing. In the case of Thibs, it was all in plain view before Glen hired him. It was widely reported that Thibs was a dick and alienated everyone else in the organization. He had a resume that definitely justified hiring him as head coach in spite of his publicly reported interpersonal issues. But it was ridiculous to hire him as the team's top executive knowing he had those issues - especially since he had absolutely no experience even working in front office much less managing one. I'm sure the issues with Gersson weren't as well known. But I agree with Q that those issues must have been there in multi-year tenure as Houston's #2.
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lipoli390 wrote:
kekgeek1 wrote:Also how bad is Glen Taylor. How do you fire Thibs because he is hard to work with. Then end up hiring a similar toxic personality and a person who had an affair on his wife at the office.

Damn Glen sucks


It's pretty amazing. In the case of Thibs, it was all in plain view before Glen hired him. It was widely reported that Thibs was a dick and alienated everyone else in the organization. He had a resume that definitely justified hiring him as head coach in spite of his publicly reported interpersonal issues. But it was ridiculous to hire him as the team's top executive knowing he had those issues - especially since he had absolutely no experience even working in front office much less managing one. I'm sure the issues with Gersson weren't as well known. But I agree with Q that those issues must have been there in multi-year tenure as Houston's #2.


Ya its just crazy. Thibs fired for toxic behavior but he won. Then Glen hires another toxic personality but he just lost a lot more.

I'm so excited the Wolves are 2 years away from being Glen free.
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lipoli390 wrote:
kekgeek1 wrote:Also how bad is Glen Taylor. How do you fire Thibs because he is hard to work with. Then end up hiring a similar toxic personality and a person who had an affair on his wife at the office.

Damn Glen sucks


It's pretty amazing. In the case of Thibs, it was all in plain view before Glen hired him. It was widely reported that Thibs was a dick and alienated everyone else in the organization. He had a resume that definitely justified hiring him as head coach in spite of his publicly reported interpersonal issues. But it was ridiculous to hire him as the team's top executive knowing he had those issues - especially since he had absolutely no experience even working in front office much less managing one. I'm sure the issues with Gersson weren't as well known. But I agree with Q that those issues must have been there in multi-year tenure as Houston's #2.


There was at least 1 quote in the Athletic article tonight that someone said Rosas wasn't the guy I thought he was. I think it was suggested as they were understandably not named that it was someone that had worked with Rosas before.
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The only way this coulda been worse is he had been really good and this still happened. Regardless of his success (or lack thereof), he had to go if this stuff was true.


On the flipside, the only way this coulda been better is if this had been Glen.
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Camden wrote:
Q12543 wrote:
crazysauce wrote:It was an affair and it was with Bri Bauer who worked as vice president of communications and engagement for the wolves. Crazy stuff here.


Is Bri good looking? If not, I can absolutely see why they fired him. If she's hot, then.....eh.... a little harsh may be?

I kid, I kid.....


She's no Jenn Sterger, I'll tell you that... Anyone remember that fiasco or am I on an island here?

I'm a Jets fan. I very much remember this.
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KG4Ever wrote:
Camden0916 wrote:
KG4Ever wrote:
Camden0916 wrote:
KG4Ever wrote:LOL, so I guess any quote found on twitter qualifies as a rumor?? The quote Cam posted was from a guy who had 55 followers prior to the Tweet (now up to 65).


You should look up the definition of "rumor" and come back to me. Also, I specifically noted that it wasn't validated information at the time, but here we are hours later and it appears that individual had a very real source(s) close to the situation -- much closer than anyone here. And that's why I shared it. Once again, thanks for being my number one fan. :)


Dude, just say this is a tweet I read and site your source and then the reader can determine whether or not its credible. Why be so vague? I suspect you want to appear more dialed in than you really are.


You should have taken the L quietly on this one. And I include sources when they're credible or legitimate -- Woj, Shams, Stein, Krawczynski, etc. If the rumor or take is from a very sketchy source or an outlet that I don't feel confident in, then I feel no need to include anything additional other than a disclaimer that what I shared might be bullshit, which is what I did here. It turns out that this person was actually somewhat clued in. That's pretty much the end of it.


Seriously, get over yourself. If we are talking Ls, I think you are the king of that on this board.


Guys, c'mon. KG, there was no need to sound quite so dismissive when you saw the source. And, as it looks like the case may be, even if the first source of a rumor is a bit dubious, it doesn't guarantee the rumor isn't true.

And Cam, to reiterate, I wasn't going after you. And I appreciated you citing WCCO later in the thread when it was reported. Regarding sourcing though, in my opinion, it's always best to give a source like that especially when it may be a sketchy source. Sourcing lets other people evaluate the legitimacy of the source for themselves and maybe start to work to verify the credibility of the claim. It puts the credit or blame closer where it is due when (hopefully) the truth comes out, and ultimately it's a check against people just making stuff up. Thanks for the sleuthing here. Just wanted to know where you found something out.

EDIT: One other reason for sourcing: spreading unverified information without citing a source, even if we qualify it as unverified, lends the idea a credibility that can't be double checked. It might be the that the rumor is true (as it looks like the case is here) or not, but without a source, it still kind of sticks in our minds as if it is true, even if it turns out to be false. I hate to say it (because it gave me the willies), but my mind was already kind of imagining that it was true even before I saw that other outlets were reporting it, but in my head, I know I should have waited to believe it until it was more verified.
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Thibs was a nightmare who had to go and by that I mean he was a terrible GM who traded away a future all-star Zach Lavine just to rent Jimmy for one season to inflate his wins, drafted Dunn, Okogie and some washed center ahead of Jarrett Allen and John Collins. That playoff season not only cost the Wolves Lavine but the opportunity to draft Michael Porter. Thibs as a coach is certainly far better than Thibs as a GM, but he still was a poor fit here. He was touted as a defensive savant yet had very little impact on that end. Thibs also rewarded the young trio of KAT, Lavine and Wiggs with virtually unlimited playing time even when they coasted on defense. Those are not the habits I want installed on three young athletic talented youngsters. So I was glad to see the Thibs era come to a close even if he has had some success as a coach elsewhere and renting Jimmy to make the playoffs here is not all that impressive.
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SameOldNudityDrew wrote:
KG4Ever wrote:
Camden0916 wrote:
KG4Ever wrote:
Camden0916 wrote:
KG4Ever wrote:LOL, so I guess any quote found on twitter qualifies as a rumor?? The quote Cam posted was from a guy who had 55 followers prior to the Tweet (now up to 65).


You should look up the definition of "rumor" and come back to me. Also, I specifically noted that it wasn't validated information at the time, but here we are hours later and it appears that individual had a very real source(s) close to the situation -- much closer than anyone here. And that's why I shared it. Once again, thanks for being my number one fan. :)


Dude, just say this is a tweet I read and site your source and then the reader can determine whether or not its credible. Why be so vague? I suspect you want to appear more dialed in than you really are.


You should have taken the L quietly on this one. And I include sources when they're credible or legitimate -- Woj, Shams, Stein, Krawczynski, etc. If the rumor or take is from a very sketchy source or an outlet that I don't feel confident in, then I feel no need to include anything additional other than a disclaimer that what I shared might be bullshit, which is what I did here. It turns out that this person was actually somewhat clued in. That's pretty much the end of it.


Seriously, get over yourself. If we are talking Ls, I think you are the king of that on this board.


Guys, c'mon. KG, there was no need to sound quite so dismissive when you saw the source. And, as it looks like the case may be, even if the first source of a rumor is a bit dubious, it doesn't guarantee the rumor isn't true.

And Cam, to reiterate, I wasn't going after you. And I appreciated you citing WCCO later in the thread when it was reported. Regarding sourcing though, in my opinion, it's always best to give a source like that especially when it may be a sketchy source. Spreading a rumor without citing a source, even if you qualify it as unverified, lends the idea a credibility that can't be double checked. Sourcing lets other people evaluate the legitimacy of the source for themselves and maybe start to work to verify the credibility of the claim. It puts the credit or blame closer where it is due when (hopefully) the truth comes out, and ultimately it's a check against people just making stuff up. Thanks for the sleuthing here. Just wanted to know where you found something out.


Thanks Drew for putting this in context. I saw this on the RealGM Timberwolves board and they posted the tweet and I was able to check that at the time the guy posted it, he had between 45 and 55 followers. Maybe, this guy knew something but he didn't have much twitter credibility to be taken real seriously.
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It sounds like maybe the first "encounter" was a few weeks ago.

https://twitter.com/clevismurray/status/1440867941906477061?s=21

Had reported all this hours ago on blog but here Twitter.

Sources: Gerrson Rosas had an intimate encounter with a member of the team's staff.

Rosas admitted to the team after questioning that he did in fact have an encounter with a member of the staff.

https://twitter.com/clevismurray/status/1440869777870757895?s=21

Source: Rosas and the team employee were spotted together recently at a Twins game.

It's unclear which game, but the team had a 'Minnesota Timberwolves Night' on Sept. 15.
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