Minnesota Sports Forum

lipoli390 wrote:

thedoper wrote:Boy someone is getting a really good deal on Holliday.

I agree, Doper. If we didn't have a glut of PGs, I would have wanted the Wolves to draft him. He's a truly great 3-point shooter. He's also really smart and tough.

I'm surprised Chicago passed him up. Seems strange to make any promises in the 20s

Camden wrote:Love it. What a great night.

Hahahaha, what a joke.

Thought I'd re-post what Cam wrote up about Okogie....

Josh Okogie, G, Georgia Tech:
- Height: 6'4.5"
- Weight: 210.8 lbs
- Wingspan: 7'0"
- Age: 20
- 2017-18 stats: 18.2 PPG (41.6 FG%, 38.0 3P%, 82.1 FT%), 2.5 APG, 6.3 RPG in 36.4 MPG

Notes: At first glance, Okogie just looks the part. The guy is a solid 200-plus. NBA-ready body. Really long arms and a good first-step. Not really an explosive leaper, but he's quick off the floor and can get UP. Capable of playing above the rim and is a plus athlete overall. Loves the physicality of the sport and will mix it up down low. High-motor player, though sometimes does take plays off. In two years at GT, he grabbed 5.4 RPG and 6.3 RPG, respectively. His 1.8 SPG and 1.0 BPG (!) last year speak for themselves. He's got plenty of offensive upside, but with the right coaching, this guy could be a defensive force. Offensively, he can score in a plethora of ways. Loves to push the ball in transition. He's tough to stop when he gets a head of steam. Still at that stage where he goes 100-mph 100% of the time, so to speak. Would benefit greatly from changing speeds to keep his defender guessing. Not the most creative ball-handler, definitely needs some refinement in this area. Creates and absorbs contact very well at the rim. Okogie's per game averages of 6.5 FTA and 6.8 FTA in two years of college ball are quite respectable. Definitely see this aspect of his game translating. Have to respect his three-point shot -- 1.6 makes on 4.2 attempts. Much better shooter when he's set. Needs to improve his shot off the dribble, but there's signs of promise. Scoring efficiency slipped a bit from freshman to sophomore season despite USG% and role remaining the same. Decision-making is a weakness right now (0.97 AST/TO), but overall skills and ability has got him this far. Made a number of huge plays for his team throughout the season. Will likely show up and show out at the NBA combine. Will turn heads on measurements/physical tests alone -- update: he had the best lane agility score and tied for best vertical (42 inches). He's a first-rounder in my mind, but it's hard to say where he'll get picked. I could actually see a team falling in love with his potential and taking him late lottery, but I could also see teams letting him fall to the bottom of the round or even the second-round. The latter is definitely more likely than the former.

Phenom's_Revenge wrote:Is Minnesota Woj's kryptonite? I noticed he didn't have the Wolves pick on his twitter and doesn't seem to have good Wolves intel.Kind of impressive to keep him out.

Thibodeau's front office is like Fort Knox. Nothing else like it in the NBA except maybe the Spurs. I have no inside sources anymore. Most are gone and those still around generally don't know anything and are completely tight-lipped if they do. It's actually a good thing.

lipoli390 wrote:

Phenom's_Revenge wrote:Is Minnesota Woj's kryptonite? I noticed he didn't have the Wolves pick on his twitter and doesn't seem to have good Wolves intel.Kind of impressive to keep him out.

Thibodeau's front office is like Fort Knox. Nothing else like it in the NBA except maybe the Spurs. I have no inside sources anymore. Most are gone and those still around generally don't know anything and are completely tight-lipped if they do. It's actually a good thing.

I think its good too, but I also think it's a lot of the reason the media talks shit about him as well. He gives nothing but cliches.

thedoper wrote:

lipoli390 wrote:

thedoper wrote:Boy someone is getting a really good deal on Holliday.

I agree, Doper. If we didn't have a glut of PGs, I would have wanted the Wolves to draft him. He's a truly great 3-point shooter. He's also really smart and tough.

I'm surprised Chicago passed him up. Seems strange to make any promises in the 20s

I like him a lot also he will fit will there.

I don't mind the pick in a vacuum, but god damn, we need shooting. Okogie's volume is too low to trust the % (IMO). Have to believe we are using that MLE for a shooter. Wayne Ellington on the short list?

Q12543 wrote:Thought I'd re-post what Cam wrote up about Okogie....

Josh Okogie, G, Georgia Tech:
- Height: 6'4.5"
- Weight: 210.8 lbs
- Wingspan: 7'0"
- Age: 20
- 2017-18 stats: 18.2 PPG (41.6 FG%, 38.0 3P%, 82.1 FT%), 2.5 APG, 6.3 RPG in 36.4 MPG

Notes: At first glance, Okogie just looks the part. The guy is a solid 200-plus. NBA-ready body. Really long arms and a good first-step. Not really an explosive leaper, but he's quick off the floor and can get UP. Capable of playing above the rim and is a plus athlete overall. Loves the physicality of the sport and will mix it up down low. High-motor player, though sometimes does take plays off. In two years at GT, he grabbed 5.4 RPG and 6.3 RPG, respectively. His 1.8 SPG and 1.0 BPG (!) last year speak for themselves. He's got plenty of offensive upside, but with the right coaching, this guy could be a defensive force. Offensively, he can score in a plethora of ways. Loves to push the ball in transition. He's tough to stop when he gets a head of steam. Still at that stage where he goes 100-mph 100% of the time, so to speak. Would benefit greatly from changing speeds to keep his defender guessing. Not the most creative ball-handler, definitely needs some refinement in this area. Creates and absorbs contact very well at the rim. Okogie's per game averages of 6.5 FTA and 6.8 FTA in two years of college ball are quite respectable. Definitely see this aspect of his game translating. Have to respect his three-point shot -- 1.6 makes on 4.2 attempts. Much better shooter when he's set. Needs to improve his shot off the dribble, but there's signs of promise. Scoring efficiency slipped a bit from freshman to sophomore season despite USG% and role remaining the same. Decision-making is a weakness right now (0.97 AST/TO), but overall skills and ability has got him this far. Made a number of huge plays for his team throughout the season. Will likely show up and show out at the NBA combine. Will turn heads on measurements/physical tests alone -- update: he had the best lane agility score and tied for best vertical (42 inches). He's a first-rounder in my mind, but it's hard to say where he'll get picked. I could actually see a team falling in love with his potential and taking him late lottery, but I could also see teams letting him fall to the bottom of the round or even the second-round. The latter is definitely more likely than the former.

That's a great write-up by Cam. But again, the three things that stand out for me are his 6.3 rebounds per game, his 6.8 FT attempts and his 1 block per game. Those stats from a Sophomore SG say a lot about this guy's NBA potential. Add to that his physical tools -- a 7'0 wingspan, 42" max vertical and 3.04 sprint time. This guys is the full package. His shooting needs work and he'll have to develop more consistency on the defensive end. But I absolutely LOVE this pick!!

LiAngelo Ball with our next pick? Or is it Lamello?

CoolBreeze44 wrote:

Camden wrote:Love it. What a great night.

Hahahaha, what a joke.

Are you looking for a reaction out of me? Or do you have some thoughts about Okogie that would illustrate why you aren't excited about the pick?