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khans2k5 wrote:

AbeVigodaLive wrote:

khans2k5 wrote:KAT is welcome to be pissed sure. But what the hell did he do this pre-season to show this team would be fine without Jimmy? The whole reason Jimmy is getting any support is this team looked like the worst team in the NBA without him. Stop looking for the handout and earn this team. Getting drafted high and scoring points and grabbing rebounds doesn't cut it. Just look at Kevin Love. He wasn't much of a leader here either and we couldn't win with him as our best player because of it. There was a huge opportunity with Jimmy away from the team to become the leader of this team and truly take over the franchise moving forward and he miserably failed that test in all possible ways as this team looked completely lifeless and lost without it's true leader in Jimmy. So be mad at Jimmy and the organization, but he also needs to realize he had a golden opportunity to take over the team and show we didn't need Jimmy and he failed as that guy. Getting beat by a bunch of 3rd stringers was just icing on the cake. Towns just isn't ready to lead this team and everyone on the team knows it which is why Jimmy is starting tomorrow night and not sitting at home on the couch.

Maybe.

But it was preseason... and a practice. So if we're calling him a failure under those circumstances?

Tough crowd.

I think that just furthers Jimmy's point though. The vets and coaches all said that was the best practice of the year so far. The pre-season games were legitimately all disasters for the starting 5. Teague and Rose did what they wanted and Towns and Wiggins were just bystanders who didn't go get the ball. Everyone just keeps pointing at Thibs, but real stars and leaders go get the ball and lead the team and don't just let the train wrecks happen over and over again. Treating it as just pre-season and just practice isn't a luxury a team missing it's best player who wants out should be taking. That was a chance to show your veteran teammates and coaches that Jimmy was a luxury and he failed. Not taking the opportunity that was available seriously played right into Jimmy's hands.

khans2k5 wrote:

AbeVigodaLive wrote:

khans2k5 wrote:KAT is welcome to be pissed sure. But what the hell did he do this pre-season to show this team would be fine without Jimmy? The whole reason Jimmy is getting any support is this team looked like the worst team in the NBA without him. Stop looking for the handout and earn this team. Getting drafted high and scoring points and grabbing rebounds doesn't cut it. Just look at Kevin Love. He wasn't much of a leader here either and we couldn't win with him as our best player because of it. There was a huge opportunity with Jimmy away from the team to become the leader of this team and truly take over the franchise moving forward and he miserably failed that test in all possible ways as this team looked completely lifeless and lost without it's true leader in Jimmy. So be mad at Jimmy and the organization, but he also needs to realize he had a golden opportunity to take over the team and show we didn't need Jimmy and he failed as that guy. Getting beat by a bunch of 3rd stringers was just icing on the cake. Towns just isn't ready to lead this team and everyone on the team knows it which is why Jimmy is starting tomorrow night and not sitting at home on the couch.

Maybe.

But it was preseason... and a practice. So if we're calling him a failure under those circumstances?

Tough crowd.

I think that just furthers Jimmy's point though. The vets and coaches all said that was the best practice of the year so far. The pre-season games were legitimately all disasters for the starting 5. Teague and Rose did what they wanted and Towns and Wiggins were just bystanders who didn't go get the ball. Everyone just keeps pointing at Thibs, but real stars and leaders go get the ball and lead the team and don't just let the train wrecks happen over and over again. Treating it as just pre-season and just practice isn't a luxury a team missing it's best player who wants out should be taking. That was a chance to show your veteran teammates and coaches that Jimmy was a luxury and he failed. Not taking the opportunity that was available seriously played right into Jimmy's hands.

AbeVigodaLive wrote:

khans2k5 wrote:

AbeVigodaLive wrote:

khans2k5 wrote:KAT is welcome to be pissed sure. But what the hell did he do this pre-season to show this team would be fine without Jimmy? The whole reason Jimmy is getting any support is this team looked like the worst team in the NBA without him. Stop looking for the handout and earn this team. Getting drafted high and scoring points and grabbing rebounds doesn't cut it. Just look at Kevin Love. He wasn't much of a leader here either and we couldn't win with him as our best player because of it. There was a huge opportunity with Jimmy away from the team to become the leader of this team and truly take over the franchise moving forward and he miserably failed that test in all possible ways as this team looked completely lifeless and lost without it's true leader in Jimmy. So be mad at Jimmy and the organization, but he also needs to realize he had a golden opportunity to take over the team and show we didn't need Jimmy and he failed as that guy. Getting beat by a bunch of 3rd stringers was just icing on the cake. Towns just isn't ready to lead this team and everyone on the team knows it which is why Jimmy is starting tomorrow night and not sitting at home on the couch.

Maybe.

But it was preseason... and a practice. So if we're calling him a failure under those circumstances?

Tough crowd.

I think that just furthers Jimmy's point though. The vets and coaches all said that was the best practice of the year so far. The pre-season games were legitimately all disasters for the starting 5. Teague and Rose did what they wanted and Towns and Wiggins were just bystanders who didn't go get the ball. Everyone just keeps pointing at Thibs, but real stars and leaders go get the ball and lead the team and don't just let the train wrecks happen over and over again. Treating it as just pre-season and just practice isn't a luxury a team missing it's best player who wants out should be taking. That was a chance to show your veteran teammates and coaches that Jimmy was a luxury and he failed. Not taking the opportunity that was available seriously played right into Jimmy's hands.

Still a tough crowd.

Guys who aren't ballhogs get ripped more than the actual ballhogs... because leadership in a preseason game or something.

Ok. I guess.

If the Wolves wanted to heap many millions of dollars on Thibs head in a dual role... and if he's gonna take over my viewing experience with seemingly micromanaging from the sidelines. with his constant bellowing... maybe he can have a say in how the team plays, too? Just a little?

I don't think too many NBA players have seen anything like what's happened in the last week with the Wolves. So to expect them to show off some alpha persona in a preseason game in response seems sorta weird to me. A lot of teams, even teams with veteran NBA leaders, would be struggling with what's going on with this organization right now.

It's all very weird. And I certainly wouldn't come to some rash decision by what we've seen in preseason games or practices in the past week or so...

CoolBreeze44 wrote:I'm still hoping Glen isn't dumb enough to let this charade carry into the regular season. Anticipating the possibility there will still be a deal done before tomorrow night. Unlike a lot of you, I can't stand Butler and have no problem winning less games if it means getting rid of him.

I'm very curious to see what the crowd reaction is going to be like if he plays a home game. Most fans on twitter seem to be anti-Jimmy like me. But if the crowd cheers instead of boos him, I think it creates a bigger problem for Glen. He has to feel some sense of urgency to get the trade done. It's hard to see how he and Thibs can possibly co-exist at this point.

If Jimmy plays, I will be cheering for him to get hurt and will relish it when he does.

khans2k5 wrote:

AbeVigodaLive wrote:

khans2k5 wrote:

AbeVigodaLive wrote:

khans2k5 wrote:KAT is welcome to be pissed sure. But what the hell did he do this pre-season to show this team would be fine without Jimmy? The whole reason Jimmy is getting any support is this team looked like the worst team in the NBA without him. Stop looking for the handout and earn this team. Getting drafted high and scoring points and grabbing rebounds doesn't cut it. Just look at Kevin Love. He wasn't much of a leader here either and we couldn't win with him as our best player because of it. There was a huge opportunity with Jimmy away from the team to become the leader of this team and truly take over the franchise moving forward and he miserably failed that test in all possible ways as this team looked completely lifeless and lost without it's true leader in Jimmy. So be mad at Jimmy and the organization, but he also needs to realize he had a golden opportunity to take over the team and show we didn't need Jimmy and he failed as that guy. Getting beat by a bunch of 3rd stringers was just icing on the cake. Towns just isn't ready to lead this team and everyone on the team knows it which is why Jimmy is starting tomorrow night and not sitting at home on the couch.

Maybe.

But it was preseason... and a practice. So if we're calling him a failure under those circumstances?

Tough crowd.

I think that just furthers Jimmy's point though. The vets and coaches all said that was the best practice of the year so far. The pre-season games were legitimately all disasters for the starting 5. Teague and Rose did what they wanted and Towns and Wiggins were just bystanders who didn't go get the ball. Everyone just keeps pointing at Thibs, but real stars and leaders go get the ball and lead the team and don't just let the train wrecks happen over and over again. Treating it as just pre-season and just practice isn't a luxury a team missing it's best player who wants out should be taking. That was a chance to show your veteran teammates and coaches that Jimmy was a luxury and he failed. Not taking the opportunity that was available seriously played right into Jimmy's hands.

Still a tough crowd.

Guys who aren't ballhogs get ripped more than the actual ballhogs... because leadership in a preseason game or something.

Ok. I guess.

If the Wolves wanted to heap many millions of dollars on Thibs head in a dual role... and if he's gonna take over my viewing experience with seemingly micromanaging from the sidelines. with his constant bellowing... maybe he can have a say in how the team plays, too? Just a little?

I don't think too many NBA players have seen anything like what's happened in the last week with the Wolves. So to expect them to show off some alpha persona in a preseason game in response seems sorta weird to me. A lot of teams, even teams with veteran NBA leaders, would be struggling with what's going on with this organization right now.

It's all very weird. And I certainly wouldn't come to some rash decision by what we've seen in preseason games or practices in the past week or so...

Towns will make more money next season than Thibs would make if he stayed for the next 3 years. If this is a player's league then they need to be accountable and stop having blame pushed to their coach or their organization for their shortcomings.

TheSP wrote:

CoolBreeze44 wrote:I'm still hoping Glen isn't dumb enough to let this charade carry into the regular season. Anticipating the possibility there will still be a deal done before tomorrow night. Unlike a lot of you, I can't stand Butler and have no problem winning less games if it means getting rid of him.

I'm very curious to see what the crowd reaction is going to be like if he plays a home game. Most fans on twitter seem to be anti-Jimmy like me. But if the crowd cheers instead of boos him, I think it creates a bigger problem for Glen. He has to feel some sense of urgency to get the trade done. It's hard to see how he and Thibs can possibly co-exist at this point.

If Jimmy plays, I will be cheering for him to get hurt and will relish it when he does.

If I were at the game I'd boo loudly, the entire team. Taj and Dieng may be the only truly likable guys on the team.

Big O wrote:

TheSP wrote:

CoolBreeze44 wrote:I'm still hoping Glen isn't dumb enough to let this charade carry into the regular season. Anticipating the possibility there will still be a deal done before tomorrow night. Unlike a lot of you, I can't stand Butler and have no problem winning less games if it means getting rid of him.

I'm very curious to see what the crowd reaction is going to be like if he plays a home game. Most fans on twitter seem to be anti-Jimmy like me. But if the crowd cheers instead of boos him, I think it creates a bigger problem for Glen. He has to feel some sense of urgency to get the trade done. It's hard to see how he and Thibs can possibly co-exist at this point.

If Jimmy plays, I will be cheering for him to get hurt and will relish it when he does.

If I were at the game I'd boo loudly, the entire team. Taj and Dieng may be the only truly likable guys on the team.

I think you can add Tyus to that list...

TheSP wrote:

CoolBreeze44 wrote:I'm still hoping Glen isn't dumb enough to let this charade carry into the regular season. Anticipating the possibility there will still be a deal done before tomorrow night. Unlike a lot of you, I can't stand Butler and have no problem winning less games if it means getting rid of him.

I'm very curious to see what the crowd reaction is going to be like if he plays a home game. Most fans on twitter seem to be anti-Jimmy like me. But if the crowd cheers instead of boos him, I think it creates a bigger problem for Glen. He has to feel some sense of urgency to get the trade done. It's hard to see how he and Thibs can possibly co-exist at this point.

If Jimmy plays, I will be cheering for him to get hurt and will relish it when he does.

If I were at the game I'd boo loudly, the entire team. Taj and Dieng may be the only truly likable guys on the team.

CoolBreeze44 wrote:I'm still hoping Glen isn't dumb enough to let this charade carry into the regular season. Anticipating the possibility there will still be a deal done before tomorrow night. Unlike a lot of you, I can't stand Butler and have no problem winning less games if it means getting rid of him.

I'm very curious to see what the crowd reaction is going to be like if he plays a home game. Most fans on twitter seem to be anti-Jimmy like me. But if the crowd cheers instead of boos him, I think it creates a bigger problem for Glen. He has to feel some sense of urgency to get the trade done. It's hard to see how he and Thibs can possibly co-exist at this point.

If Jimmy plays, I will be cheering for him to get hurt and will relish it when he does.