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Re: Around the NBA (non-Wolves talk)
Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 1:32 pm
by mjs34
monsterpile wrote:I wasn't a fan of picking Markkanen but in the games I have seen I was actually pretty impressed with him. Hisoffense ai though was fine it was the other stuff that was a concern. His rebounding was decent and his defense was far from disasterous at times he actually looked pretty good. Maybe I watched the good games and LST watched an unimpressive game. Lol He fits the new NBA and is basically a 7' shooter that is far from a bad athlete. He exceeded my expectations. The Bulls have some pieces to work with either going forward on their roster or to make a deal for another player.
I liked what little I saw of him as well. Maybe you're right on the games thing Monster.
Re: Around the NBA (non-Wolves talk)
Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 2:10 pm
by Monster
sjm34 wrote:monsterpile wrote:I wasn't a fan of picking Markkanen but in the games I have seen I was actually pretty impressed with him. Hisoffense ai though was fine it was the other stuff that was a concern. His rebounding was decent and his defense was far from disasterous at times he actually looked pretty good. Maybe I watched the good games and LST watched an unimpressive game. Lol He fits the new NBA and is basically a 7' shooter that is far from a bad athlete. He exceeded my expectations. The Bulls have some pieces to work with either going forward on their roster or to make a deal for another player.
I liked what little I saw of him as well. Maybe you're right on the games thing Monster.
Something else to consider with Markkenen. It wasn't like he was playing with some sort of good PGs in his rookie year. The guys the Bulls put out there had maybe like 5 total seasons of games between them when the season ended. None of them I would consider above average at their position at making other guys look good. Markkenen has a lot of opportunity but I'd have doubts others created awesome opportunities game in game out. I thought he could be a bigger more physically gifted Ryan Anderson which is a nice player. I think he was at least that this year (comparing their rookie years) or better. There is still offensive upside with him and this is from a guy that didn't believe he was gonna be awesome or whatever.
Re: Around the NBA (non-Wolves talk)
Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 2:43 pm
by kekgeek
monsterpile wrote:sjm34 wrote:monsterpile wrote:I wasn't a fan of picking Markkanen but in the games I have seen I was actually pretty impressed with him. Hisoffense ai though was fine it was the other stuff that was a concern. His rebounding was decent and his defense was far from disasterous at times he actually looked pretty good. Maybe I watched the good games and LST watched an unimpressive game. Lol He fits the new NBA and is basically a 7' shooter that is far from a bad athlete. He exceeded my expectations. The Bulls have some pieces to work with either going forward on their roster or to make a deal for another player.
I liked what little I saw of him as well. Maybe you're right on the games thing Monster.
Something else to consider with Markkenen. It wasn't like he was playing with some sort of good PGs in his rookie year. The guys the Bulls put out there had maybe like 5 total seasons of games between them when the season ended. None of them I would consider above average at their position at making other guys look good. Markkenen has a lot of opportunity but I'd have doubts others created awesome opportunities game in game out. I thought he could be a bigger more physically gifted Ryan Anderson which is a nice player. I think he was at least that this year (comparing their rookie years) or better. There is still offensive upside with him and this is from a guy that didn't believe he was gonna be awesome or whatever.
I would also say I was wrong on Lauri. I hated him going into the draft. I think he will be a very good NBA player. Starter on a playoff caliber team. I will say though I would still do the trade 100 out of 100 times. But I was shocked on what they got out of him this year.
Re: Around the NBA (non-Wolves talk)
Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 3:25 pm
by Monster
kekgeek1 wrote:monsterpile wrote:sjm34 wrote:monsterpile wrote:I wasn't a fan of picking Markkanen but in the games I have seen I was actually pretty impressed with him. Hisoffense ai though was fine it was the other stuff that was a concern. His rebounding was decent and his defense was far from disasterous at times he actually looked pretty good. Maybe I watched the good games and LST watched an unimpressive game. Lol He fits the new NBA and is basically a 7' shooter that is far from a bad athlete. He exceeded my expectations. The Bulls have some pieces to work with either going forward on their roster or to make a deal for another player.
I liked what little I saw of him as well. Maybe you're right on the games thing Monster.
Something else to consider with Markkenen. It wasn't like he was playing with some sort of good PGs in his rookie year. The guys the Bulls put out there had maybe like 5 total seasons of games between them when the season ended. None of them I would consider above average at their position at making other guys look good. Markkenen has a lot of opportunity but I'd have doubts others created awesome opportunities game in game out. I thought he could be a bigger more physically gifted Ryan Anderson which is a nice player. I think he was at least that this year (comparing their rookie years) or better. There is still offensive upside with him and this is from a guy that didn't believe he was gonna be awesome or whatever.
I would also say I was wrong on Lauri. I hated him going into the draft. I think he will be a very good NBA player. Starter on a playoff caliber team. I will say though I would still do the trade 100 out of 100 times. But I was shocked on what they got out of him this year.
Positive vibes about Markkanen might give a bit more confidence to our talent evaluation for this franchise since Glen basically said he was the guy we would have picked if we stayed there.
Re: Around the NBA (non-Wolves talk)
Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 3:45 pm
by Monster
Danny Green is simply one of the best transition defenders I have ever seen. It's unbelievable how he is able to disrupt players, take the ball way etc.
Re: Around the NBA (non-Wolves talk)
Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 4:31 pm
by thedoper
Kerr still going 12 deep in game 1. Must be nice to have all that talent and still be able to rest guys.
Re: Around the NBA (non-Wolves talk)
Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 9:05 pm
by Q12543 [enjin:6621299]
monsterpile wrote:Danny Green is simply one of the best transition defenders I have ever seen. It's unbelievable how he is able to disrupt players, take the ball way etc.
He is really good defensively. Klay Thompson too. Amazing how he often checks opposing PGs that are theoretically quicker than he is. He stays in front of guys and fights over screens as well as anyone in the NBA.
Re: Around the NBA (non-Wolves talk)
Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 9:08 pm
by Q12543 [enjin:6621299]
Sixers just showed me that you can play good defense without a defensive savant in the middle. They just shut down Miami in the 3rd quarter with only one all-NBA caliber defender in Covington and then a bunch of guys I always thought of as mediocre at best individually. It's amazing how a coach can get guys to play up on that side of the floor!
Re: Around the NBA (non-Wolves talk)
Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 9:13 pm
by Lipoli390
Q12543 wrote:Sixers just showed me that you can play good defense without a defensive savant in the middle. They just shut down Miami in the 3rd quarter with only one all-NBA caliber defender in Covington and then a bunch of guys I always thought of as mediocre at best individually. It's amazing how a coach can get guys to play up on that side of the floor!
I was just about to post on the Sixers game. It's such a treat watching the Sixers play. And it's not just their defense. It's also the way they move the ball and move without the ball on offensive. No player holds the ball more than a few seconds. Guys are constantly moving and cutting off the ball. And they're not constantly listening for instructions barked by their head coach from the bench. Then there's the hustle. The Sixers win almost every 50-50 ball battle and if they don't win the battle they force a jump ball.
Re: Around the NBA (non-Wolves talk)
Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 9:31 pm
by crazy-canuck [enjin:18955461]
Amir has been a strong defender most of his career as an undersized c.
Every one of their bigs defend better than kat and dieng.
Not surprised. Brown is a good coach with a system in place. The players enjoy playing for him.