Time to cross our fingers...

[Monster]

I would be curious to know what policies that Trump has done that you find are a positive.

Strong on the border and immigration. Our current system lets low skill workers in, they aren't a threat to high skill workers, they're a threat to those already most at risk in our country. We shouldn't be importing people to take jobs from Americans and driving down their wages.

His requirement that for all new regulation old regulation must be removed from the books. It is insane that we continue to pile more regulation on top and two-plus centuries of regulation, much of which serves no purpose anymore but can still be used against citizens and companies.

Appointing originalist judges.

Tax reform, not perfect but better than what we had.

Lowered the corporate tax rate. No better way to send jobs to Canada and Mexico than making production in the US 10% more expensive right off the top.

Criminal reform, again not perfect, but a start.

As for Trump being a big middle finger to those career republicans you are right there was some of that but...lets remember that was a pretty underwhelming group.

Yes, because the lifers are eyeballs deep in the swamp. Consider the four candidates who had momentum at any point, Trump, Fiorina, Carson, and Cruz, three outsiders, and Cruz who has never been shy about calling out his own party when the abandon their principles. You cannot honestly paint that primary as anything other than a rejection of more of the same GOP.

Even though I probably lean toward being a Democrat if I HAD to pick one I would absolutely vote for a Republican if I thought they were the most worthwhile candidate.

Worthwhile candidates are in short supple on both sides of the isle. Cruz was my choice in the primaries and I may well have voted for Satan before Clinton.

I listened to a couple of them give their speeches while in Iowa...Ben Carson was the best but he was overall just one of the bumbling guys in that race for the nomination.

Ben Carson was probably the best person running for either party, but he was far to nice to have any success in DC IMO.

Thats part of the middle finger you are referring to...that was the best the Republicans can come up with? Sure vote for the new guy I guess.

Again, Cruz was my choice, Clinton was never an option.

I think there were some other factors than got him to the White House. Regardless I think we can agree. that the people we have had to pick from for President the past couple of cycles haven't exactly been inspiring to the nation in general...or at least in a positive way. lol

I think if a person who is moderate to conservative looks into what Ted Cruz stands for rather than just listen to the media's representation of him they'd see a quality candidate. The problem for Cruz is his personality isn't made for the television, he's more of a policy geek which doesn't fly in primaries, unfortunately.

Beyond that, I agree completely!

Thanks for your reply.

Would you be willing to say why Clinton was never an option? For me personally that election I felt Clinton was the best option but as I told a few people leading up to the election when they asked me about it I said right or wrong there a number of reasons people could find not to like her as a candidate.

[ItsJustSoSab]

Hearing this news brought me back just a little bit towards giving a shit about the Wolves again. Until Glen is gone, the Wolves will never win a championship

[Q12543 [enjin:6621299]]

I would be curious to know what policies that Trump has done that you find are a positive.

Strong on the border and immigration. Our current system lets low skill workers in, they aren't a threat to high skill workers, they're a threat to those already most at risk in our country. We shouldn't be importing people to take jobs from Americans and driving down their wages.

His requirement that for all new regulation old regulation must be removed from the books. It is insane that we continue to pile more regulation on top and two-plus centuries of regulation, much of which serves no purpose anymore but can still be used against citizens and companies.

Appointing originalist judges.

Tax reform, not perfect but better than what we had.

Lowered the corporate tax rate. No better way to send jobs to Canada and Mexico than making production in the US 10% more expensive right off the top.

Criminal reform, again not perfect, but a start.

As for Trump being a big middle finger to those career republicans you are right there was some of that but...lets remember that was a pretty underwhelming group.

Yes, because the lifers are eyeballs deep in the swamp. Consider the four candidates who had momentum at any point, Trump, Fiorina, Carson, and Cruz, three outsiders, and Cruz who has never been shy about calling out his own party when the abandon their principles. You cannot honestly paint that primary as anything other than a rejection of more of the same GOP.

Even though I probably lean toward being a Democrat if I HAD to pick one I would absolutely vote for a Republican if I thought they were the most worthwhile candidate.

Worthwhile candidates are in short supple on both sides of the isle. Cruz was my choice in the primaries and I may well have voted for Satan before Clinton.

I listened to a couple of them give their speeches while in Iowa...Ben Carson was the best but he was overall just one of the bumbling guys in that race for the nomination.

Ben Carson was probably the best person running for either party, but he was far to nice to have any success in DC IMO.

Thats part of the middle finger you are referring to...that was the best the Republicans can come up with? Sure vote for the new guy I guess.

Again, Cruz was my choice, Clinton was never an option.

I think there were some other factors than got him to the White House. Regardless I think we can agree. that the people we have had to pick from for President the past couple of cycles haven't exactly been inspiring to the nation in general...or at least in a positive way. lol

I think if a person who is moderate to conservative looks into what Ted Cruz stands for rather than just listen to the media's representation of him they'd see a quality candidate. The problem for Cruz is his personality isn't made for the television, he's more of a policy geek which doesn't fly in primaries, unfortunately.

Beyond that, I agree completely!

Thanks for your reply.

Would you be willing to say why Clinton was never an option? For me personally that election I felt Clinton was the best option but as I told a few people leading up to the election when they asked me about it I said right or wrong there a number of reasons people could find not to like her as a candidate.

SP, I like a lot of your well thought-out answers here. I would push back a bit on immigration. When brought into the country legally, there are prevailing wage laws that ensure companies can't underpay immigrants versus similarly-skilled citizens. Also, they honestly do a lot of jobs that many Americans just aren't will to do anymore.

One of the biggest failures of both parties is the inability to come together to reform legal immigration, both for low-skilled and high-skilled immigrants. The Dems could care less about border security and many Repubs are xenophobic fear-mongerers (including Trump). We should have both border security AND a robust legal immigration process. It's really not difficult, but both sides have too many purists that simply won't budge.

I'm really hoping that in 2024 and beyond, we get back to seeing more former governors as presidential front-runners. Governors actually have to run a state and deal with a legislature, often times held by the opposite party. There tends to be more pragmatism and better ability to compromise. Senators are like high level individual contributors. They can pontificate and influence, but they don't actually have to manage or be accountable to anything.

Perhaps not everyone agrees with me, but I am personally embarrassed by the two options we have before us in this election and in 2016. Pathetic.

[AbeVigodaLive]

I would be curious to know what policies that Trump has done that you find are a positive.

Strong on the border and immigration. Our current system lets low skill workers in, they aren't a threat to high skill workers, they're a threat to those already most at risk in our country. We shouldn't be importing people to take jobs from Americans and driving down their wages.

His requirement that for all new regulation old regulation must be removed from the books. It is insane that we continue to pile more regulation on top and two-plus centuries of regulation, much of which serves no purpose anymore but can still be used against citizens and companies.

Appointing originalist judges.

Tax reform, not perfect but better than what we had.

Lowered the corporate tax rate. No better way to send jobs to Canada and Mexico than making production in the US 10% more expensive right off the top.

Criminal reform, again not perfect, but a start.

As for Trump being a big middle finger to those career republicans you are right there was some of that but...lets remember that was a pretty underwhelming group.

Yes, because the lifers are eyeballs deep in the swamp. Consider the four candidates who had momentum at any point, Trump, Fiorina, Carson, and Cruz, three outsiders, and Cruz who has never been shy about calling out his own party when the abandon their principles. You cannot honestly paint that primary as anything other than a rejection of more of the same GOP.

Even though I probably lean toward being a Democrat if I HAD to pick one I would absolutely vote for a Republican if I thought they were the most worthwhile candidate.

Worthwhile candidates are in short supple on both sides of the isle. Cruz was my choice in the primaries and I may well have voted for Satan before Clinton.

I listened to a couple of them give their speeches while in Iowa...Ben Carson was the best but he was overall just one of the bumbling guys in that race for the nomination.

Ben Carson was probably the best person running for either party, but he was far to nice to have any success in DC IMO.

Thats part of the middle finger you are referring to...that was the best the Republicans can come up with? Sure vote for the new guy I guess.

Again, Cruz was my choice, Clinton was never an option.

I think there were some other factors than got him to the White House. Regardless I think we can agree. that the people we have had to pick from for President the past couple of cycles haven't exactly been inspiring to the nation in general...or at least in a positive way. lol

I think if a person who is moderate to conservative looks into what Ted Cruz stands for rather than just listen to the media's representation of him they'd see a quality candidate. The problem for Cruz is his personality isn't made for the television, he's more of a policy geek which doesn't fly in primaries, unfortunately.

Beyond that, I agree completely!

Thanks for your reply.

Would you be willing to say why Clinton was never an option? For me personally that election I felt Clinton was the best option but as I told a few people leading up to the election when they asked me about it I said right or wrong there a number of reasons people could find not to like her as a candidate.

SP, I like a lot of your well thought-out answers here. I would push back a bit on immigration. When brought into the country legally, there are prevailing wage laws that ensure companies can't underpay immigrants versus similarly-skilled citizens. Also, they honestly do a lot of jobs that many Americans just aren't will to do anymore.

One of the biggest failures of both parties is the inability to come together to reform legal immigration, both for low-skilled and high-skilled immigrants. The Dems could care less about border security and many Repubs are xenophobic fear-mongerers (including Trump). We should have both border security AND a robust legal immigration process. It's really not difficult, but both sides have too many purists that simply won't budge.

I'm really hoping that in 2024 and beyond, we get back to seeing more former governors as presidential front-runners. Governors actually have to run a state and deal with a legislature, often times held by the opposite party. There tends to be more pragmatism and better ability to compromise. Senators are like high level individual contributors. They can pontificate and influence, but they don't actually have to manage or be accountable to anything.

Perhaps not everyone agrees with me, but I am personally embarrassed by the two options we have before us in this election and in 2016. Pathetic.

Pragmatism is a sign of weakness.

Kneejerk reactionary ideological mantras are all the rage.

[bleedspeed]

I also like Ben Carson. I liked Andrew Yang too. I agree Governors seem to make better Presidents when coming up the ranks. We need to stop with the popularity party in politics.

[Monster]

I also like Ben Carson. I liked Andrew Yang too. I agree Governors seem to make better Presidents when coming up the ranks. We need to stop with the popularity party in politics.

I personally dislike Ben Carson and for many years he was someone I looked up to.

I also agree it's a popularity contest for a wide number of reasons.

I do think Q makes a good point about governors having some better experience than some senators etc. Both can have experience working across parties and/or...being windbags. Lol Will this election be the breaking point for some sort of change in how we look at politics? Idk I do also think there have not been candidates that have been worthy during the last few years. Seriously what is the deal with our country?

[AbeVigodaLive]

I also like Ben Carson. I liked Andrew Yang too. I agree Governors seem to make better Presidents when coming up the ranks. We need to stop with the popularity party in politics.

I personally dislike Ben Carson and for many years he was someone I looked up to.

I also agree it's a popularity contest for a wide number of reasons.

I do think Q makes a good point about governors having some better experience than some senators etc. Both can have experience working across parties and/or...being windbags. Lol Will this election be the breaking point for some sort of change in how we look at politics? Idk I do also think there have not been candidates that have been worthy during the last few years. Seriously what is the deal with our country?

Hopefully... but I'm skeptical.

I don't think the trend toward identity politics has nearly run its course... yet. Hopefully, we're all still around when the tide inevitability shifts toward some semblance of togetherness again.

[BizarroJerry [enjin:6592520]]

I also like Ben Carson. I liked Andrew Yang too. I agree Governors seem to make better Presidents when coming up the ranks. We need to stop with the popularity party in politics.

I personally dislike Ben Carson and for many years he was someone I looked up to.

I also agree it's a popularity contest for a wide number of reasons.

I do think Q makes a good point about governors having some better experience than some senators etc. Both can have experience working across parties and/or...being windbags. Lol Will this election be the breaking point for some sort of change in how we look at politics? Idk I do also think there have not been candidates that have been worthy during the last few years. Seriously what is the deal with our country?

Hopefully... but I'm skeptical.

I don't think the trend toward identity politics has nearly run its course... yet. Hopefully, we're all still around when the tide inevitability shifts toward some semblance of togetherness again.

I hope Biden brings back the beer summits. Why didn't Obama keep doing that? Great idea to talk with your opponents.

[AbeVigodaLive]

Whoa.

Just read that any new owner would be faced with a whopping $50M penalty for breaking the Target Center lease.

I mean what sane man would dare pay $1.250,000,000 for a team that he could have had for only $1,200,000,000?

There's just NO WAY anybody is that crazy!

[thedoper]

Whoa.

Just read that any new owner would be faced with a whopping $50M penalty for breaking the Target Center lease.

I mean what sane man would dare pay $1.250,000,000 for a team that he could have had for only $1,200,000,000?

There's just NO WAY anybody is that crazy!

Haha. Yes. There is no leverage to keep this team in Minnesota in the open market.