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Agree. He might have more value to us (the did draft him - so there must be something they see/saw in him). But 3M (Moore, Miller, Minott) are all going to need to compete for spots this year with new draftees coming on board (plus Clark).Coolbreeze44 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2024 2:36 pm
I can't see anyone willing to give up any asset to acquire Josh Minott. He really doesn't have any value.
FNG wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2024 2:09 pm The other rumor I heard today involved Buddy Hield. They said the Wolves were one of 3 teams that were very interested in him, and that they thought the price tag in free agency would only be the vet minimum.
While I like the price, I say no. Yes, he is a prolific and often accurate 3-point shooter, but he's too easy to target on defense. I have him in the "unplayable in the playoffs" category. I'm skeptical about this rumor, because he doesn't seem to fit the TC mold.
Considering NAW was just atrocious on offense this playoffs and a big reason the bench failed us, adding Buddy would at least give Finch some options.Lipoli390 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2024 7:47 pmFNG wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2024 2:09 pm The other rumor I heard today involved Buddy Hield. They said the Wolves were one of 3 teams that were very interested in him, and that they thought the price tag in free agency would only be the vet minimum.
While I like the price, I say no. Yes, he is a prolific and often accurate 3-point shooter, but he's too easy to target on defense. I have him in the "unplayable in the playoffs" category. I'm skeptical about this rumor, because he doesn't seem to fit the TC mold.
There’s the old adage: Beggars can’t be choosers. This team desperately needs to add perimeter shooting/offensive firepower off the bench and we don’t have the transactional flexibility to get the sort of player you have in mind. So if we can sign Buddy for the vet minimum we should do it in my view.
I agree. The Wolves can still have roster space for their two picks (27 and 37) after signing Buddy and also re-signing JMac, Morris and So Mo if they simply release Moore.60WinTim wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2024 10:34 amConsidering NAW was just atrocious on offense this playoffs and a big reason the bench failed us, adding Buddy would at least give Finch some options.Lipoli390 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2024 7:47 pmFNG wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2024 2:09 pm The other rumor I heard today involved Buddy Hield. They said the Wolves were one of 3 teams that were very interested in him, and that they thought the price tag in free agency would only be the vet minimum.
While I like the price, I say no. Yes, he is a prolific and often accurate 3-point shooter, but he's too easy to target on defense. I have him in the "unplayable in the playoffs" category. I'm skeptical about this rumor, because he doesn't seem to fit the TC mold.
There’s the old adage: Beggars can’t be choosers. This team desperately needs to add perimeter shooting/offensive firepower off the bench and we don’t have the transactional flexibility to get the sort of player you have in mind. So if we can sign Buddy for the vet minimum we should do it in my view.
While Monte Morris is a near lock to re-sign, I figure Clark will be re-signed to a 2nd two-way contract. I think there is a good chance JMac could be re-signed, assuming he is not displaced by our #27 pick.
I’ll be shocked if Moore gets released. I think he is a bum no doubt but because we are in the 2nd apron team ever million we are over the cap is approximately 3 million in real life money to the owners. So Moore will make 2.5 million this year however if we cut him the owners are paying 7.5 million in real life money. Then add a vet min in that spot for 2.75 to replace Moore so that player would cost the owners 8.25 million. So that one roster spot would cost the owners 15.75 million. I just don’t think Taylor or A Rod do that for a guy who will not play more than likely. Moore is a bum but I think he is on roster next year.Lipoli390 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2024 10:52 amI agree. The Wolves can still have roster space for their two picks (27 and 37) after signing Buddy and also re-signing JMac, Morris and So Mo if they simply release Moore.60WinTim wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2024 10:34 amConsidering NAW was just atrocious on offense this playoffs and a big reason the bench failed us, adding Buddy would at least give Finch some options.Lipoli390 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2024 7:47 pm
There’s the old adage: Beggars can’t be choosers. This team desperately needs to add perimeter shooting/offensive firepower off the bench and we don’t have the transactional flexibility to get the sort of player you have in mind. So if we can sign Buddy for the vet minimum we should do it in my view.
While Monte Morris is a near lock to re-sign, I figure Clark will be re-signed to a 2nd two-way contract. I think there is a good chance JMac could be re-signed, assuming he is not displaced by our #27 pick.
Kek - Is Moore’s contract guaranteed for next season? I was assuming the Wolves had a team option on his contract next season but maybe that’s been exercised already. If not, then they can simply not pick up their option on him and they wouldn’t owe any additional luxury tax. That’s what I was thinking.kekgeek wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2024 6:19 pmI’ll be shocked if Moore gets released. I think he is a bum no doubt but because we are in the 2nd apron team ever million we are over the cap is approximately 3 million in real life money to the owners. So Moore will make 2.5 million this year however if we cut him the owners are paying 7.5 million in real life money. Then add a vet min in that spot for 2.75 to replace Moore so that player would cost the owners 8.25 million. So that one roster spot would cost the owners 15.75 million. I just don’t think Taylor or A Rod do that for a guy who will not play more than likely. Moore is a bum but I think he is on roster next year.Lipoli390 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2024 10:52 amI agree. The Wolves can still have roster space for their two picks (27 and 37) after signing Buddy and also re-signing JMac, Morris and So Mo if they simply release Moore.60WinTim wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2024 10:34 am
Considering NAW was just atrocious on offense this playoffs and a big reason the bench failed us, adding Buddy would at least give Finch some options.
While Monte Morris is a near lock to re-sign, I figure Clark will be re-signed to a 2nd two-way contract. I think there is a good chance JMac could be re-signed, assuming he is not displaced by our #27 pick.
Dane Moore and Doogie both think Jmac will not be back and there both team and player want to go their separate ways. They both think Morris will be back.
Slow mo will be interesting for sure.
His 3rd year option was picked up this year. I was sort of shocked when it happened but yep he’s back, unfortunately.Lipoli390 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2024 6:54 pmKek - Is Moore’s contract guaranteed for next season? I was assuming the Wolves had a team option on his contract next season but maybe that’s been exercised already. If not, then they can simply not pick up their option on him and they wouldn’t owe any additional luxury tax. That’s what I was thinking.kekgeek wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2024 6:19 pmI’ll be shocked if Moore gets released. I think he is a bum no doubt but because we are in the 2nd apron team ever million we are over the cap is approximately 3 million in real life money to the owners. So Moore will make 2.5 million this year however if we cut him the owners are paying 7.5 million in real life money. Then add a vet min in that spot for 2.75 to replace Moore so that player would cost the owners 8.25 million. So that one roster spot would cost the owners 15.75 million. I just don’t think Taylor or A Rod do that for a guy who will not play more than likely. Moore is a bum but I think he is on roster next year.
Dane Moore and Doogie both think Jmac will not be back and there both team and player want to go their separate ways. They both think Morris will be back.
Slow mo will be interesting for sure.
Thanks for the info, kek. That’s definitely a mark against TC, but we’ll see. Maybe we can include Moore with our two picks in a deal to move up a few slots in the draft.kekgeek wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2024 9:24 pmHis 3rd year option was picked up this year. I was sort of shocked when it happened but yep he’s back, unfortunately.Lipoli390 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2024 6:54 pmKek - Is Moore’s contract guaranteed for next season? I was assuming the Wolves had a team option on his contract next season but maybe that’s been exercised already. If not, then they can simply not pick up their option on him and they wouldn’t owe any additional luxury tax. That’s what I was thinking.kekgeek wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2024 6:19 pm
I’ll be shocked if Moore gets released. I think he is a bum no doubt but because we are in the 2nd apron team ever million we are over the cap is approximately 3 million in real life money to the owners. So Moore will make 2.5 million this year however if we cut him the owners are paying 7.5 million in real life money. Then add a vet min in that spot for 2.75 to replace Moore so that player would cost the owners 8.25 million. So that one roster spot would cost the owners 15.75 million. I just don’t think Taylor or A Rod do that for a guy who will not play more than likely. Moore is a bum but I think he is on roster next year.
Dane Moore and Doogie both think Jmac will not be back and there both team and player want to go their separate ways. They both think Morris will be back.
Slow mo will be interesting for sure.