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KG4Ever wrote: ↑Wed Jun 26, 2024 9:35 pm

Coolbreeze44 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 26, 2024 9:26 pm How did Connelly get the Spurs interested in this deal? That pick is 7 years from now! Ant will only be 29, it's not likely to be a great pick. I'm can't fathom what just happened.

Its two picks that the Spurs control now. 7 years is a long time and Spurs have two shots to get a great pick. Spurs are a patient organization and anything can happen--Ant could leave or be injured and Gobert and KAT will likely be gone or washed.

That trade is a straight up bet that by the time Ant is about to turn 30, we'll be terrible, possibly because we'll have traded him by then because we couldn't maintain a contender for such a long period of time (which is often the case). Or at least it's a bet that other teams will think so too, because they may want to trade that to help Wembanyama, who is basically ready to win really soon. It's also a bet that this draft is not that great. Still, with the flattened lottery odds, in a total vacuum, that trade doesn't look to make a lot of sense for the Spurs.

Scheierman is getting very close!

Q-is-here wrote: ↑Wed Jun 26, 2024 9:42 pm

WildWolf2813 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 26, 2024 9:41 pm Scheierman is so close…

Fingers crossed - The dream is still alive!

Kolek or Collier is the dream.

George and Jaden would have been great on the floor together with both their afros on full display!

Will Knicks take a center to replace Hartenstein or Achiuwa?

Here we go Baylor, here we go!!

Bay-lor Schi-er-man dada dadada

Lipoli390 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 26, 2024 9:43 pm

Q-is-here wrote: ↑Wed Jun 26, 2024 9:39 pm

Lipoli390 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 26, 2024 9:32 pm

Some physical comparisons:

Dillingham: 6’1, 165, 6’3 wingspan
Mike Conley: 5’11, 175, 6’5.75 wingspan
Steph Curry: 6’2, 181, 6’3.25 wingspan
Trae Young: 6’1, 178, 6’3 wingspan

It would seem his length is fine given his elite skills and apparent quickness. But that weight seems problematic. Conley was only 10 pounds heavier coming out of college, but he was 10 pounds heavier. . And Conley has a significantly bigger wingspan that Dillingham. So we’ll see. I still really like the move and the pick. But I still would have preferred Devin Carter or Carlton Carrington.

...and Conley and Trae Young have struggled to get even to a Conference Finals, so it's not like their size doesn't eventually catch up to them in the playoffs. When our standards were "for the love of God can we just make the playoffs!?" Billingham would be a home run. When the standards are trying to win a title, small-ish guards are kind of a problem late in the playoffs. He absolutely needs to add weight.

Yes, and that’s my concern, Q. Trading up to #8 we could have drafted Devin Carter, Nikola Topic or Carlton Carrington. All three have terrific offensive skills but also have the size to compete defensively in the NBA. The more I reflect on this the more troubled I am by pick.

You’re overreacting.

Dillingham at worst should be judged in comparison to Carter, but keep in mind. Kentucky guys almost always pan out. Trust in Calipari’s pedigree.

I want Terrence Shannon...he can contribute on both ends right away

Monster wrote: ↑Wed Jun 26, 2024 9:43 pm

Q-is-here wrote: ↑Wed Jun 26, 2024 9:39 pm

Lipoli390 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 26, 2024 9:32 pm

Some physical comparisons:

Dillingham: 6’1, 165, 6’3 wingspan
Mike Conley: 5’11, 175, 6’5.75 wingspan
Steph Curry: 6’2, 181, 6’3.25 wingspan
Trae Young: 6’1, 178, 6’3 wingspan

It would seem his length is fine given his elite skills and apparent quickness. But that weight seems problematic. Conley was only 10 pounds heavier coming out of college, but he was 10 pounds heavier. . And Conley has a significantly bigger wingspan that Dillingham. So we’ll see. I still really like the move and the pick. But I still would have preferred Devin Carter or Carlton Carrington.

...and Conley and Trae Young have struggled to get even to a Conference Finals, so it's not like their size doesn't eventually catch up to them in the playoffs. When our standards were "for the love of God can we just make the playoffs!?" Billingham would be a home run. When the standards are trying to win a title, small-ish guards are kind of a problem late in the playoffs. He absolutely needs to add weight.

Was those guys size the reason they didn't advance or the teams they were on?

One thing interesting about this trade up for Dillingham is that the Wolves have at times seemingly been more interested in size and positional versatility with size. So for them to trade up and take a guard like this is a little bit surprising but also a positive as they aren't against taking a player they think is good regardless of a guy being smaller.

Good points, Monster. At some level we need to trust that TC and his front office team know what they’re doing with a lot more information than we have. It’s a move inasmuch as Dillingham doesn’t seem to fit the player mold TC likes. We’ll see. One factor to consider is that Dillingham is only 19.4 years old. I don’t have a sense of how much muscle weight his frame can hold, but 19 year old athletes typically add a lot of muscle weight by the time they’re 21. On the other hand, starting at 165 pound is a deep hole to dig out of.

Monster wrote: ↑Wed Jun 26, 2024 9:43 pm

Q-is-here wrote: ↑Wed Jun 26, 2024 9:39 pm

Lipoli390 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 26, 2024 9:32 pm

Some physical comparisons:

Dillingham: 6’1, 165, 6’3 wingspan
Mike Conley: 5’11, 175, 6’5.75 wingspan
Steph Curry: 6’2, 181, 6’3.25 wingspan
Trae Young: 6’1, 178, 6’3 wingspan

It would seem his length is fine given his elite skills and apparent quickness. But that weight seems problematic. Conley was only 10 pounds heavier coming out of college, but he was 10 pounds heavier. . And Conley has a significantly bigger wingspan that Dillingham. So we’ll see. I still really like the move and the pick. But I still would have preferred Devin Carter or Carlton Carrington.

...and Conley and Trae Young have struggled to get even to a Conference Finals, so it's not like their size doesn't eventually catch up to them in the playoffs. When our standards were "for the love of God can we just make the playoffs!?" Billingham would be a home run. When the standards are trying to win a title, small-ish guards are kind of a problem late in the playoffs. He absolutely needs to add weight.

Was those guys size the reason they didn't advance or the teams they were on?

One thing interesting about this trade up for Dillingham is that the Wolves have at times seemingly been more interested in size and positional versatility with size. So for them to trade up and take a guard like this is a little bit surprising but also a positive as they aren't against taking a player they think is good regardless of a guy being smaller.

Conley gets targeted late in the playoffs. Trae Young has been targeted since he played in the summer league, lol! I can't say that's the reason their teams didn't make the Finals, but their defensive vulnerability is a factor.

I just can't remember in recent history a team where the starting PG was (somewhat) short AND slight. Lowry with Toronto was short, but built like a tank and a dog defensively. Murray, Curry, Irving....none of those guys are or were great defenders, but they built their frames up and have enough physicality to at least compete at that end.

IDK...Billingham is still a young dude. Hopefully he can put on more muscle.

(BTW, is that Andrew McCarthy they keep showing on the ESPN feed?).