Official 2016 Draft Thread

[khans2k5 [enjin:6608728]]

Can Murray supporters talk about why they like him at 5? I see a 1 trick spot up shooting pony who has question marks defensively which is what our team needs more than offense.

[bleedspeed]

Can Murray supporters talk about why they like him at 5? I see a 1 trick spot up shooting pony who has question marks defensively which is what our team needs more than offense.

Good question. I thought he was close to as good of a prospect as D'Angelo Russell, but he has much smaller wingspan and shorter standing reach. He also lacks the handle and passing of Russell. I need to cool off on him a bit. Unless he is showing he can be a PG in workouts he is to small to be a SG.

[Monster]

Can Murray supporters talk about why they like him at 5? I see a 1 trick spot up shooting pony who has question marks defensively which is what our team needs more than offense.

Good question. I thought he was close to as good of a prospect as D'Angelo Russell, but he has much smaller wingspan and shorter standing reach. He also lacks the handle and passing of Russell. I need to cool off on him a bit. Unless he is showing he can be a PG in workouts he is to small to be a SG.

I like Murray's shooting and I think he does have the ability to play PG at least as a guy that will be able to get it done well enough when your starter goes to the bench. Can he defend? Idk maybe he won't be able to but every one of these guards has some flaws but I feel like Murray has the most upside and at worst the guy should be able to be a bench shooter. He is 1" shorter than JJ Redick but has a 3" longer wingspan so the idea that he physically can't get it done on the defensive end while a completely legit concern is not an absolute same thing for Buddy also who has more physically going for him than either. JJ should get a heck of a lot of credit for what he has been able to do on that end of the floor and I don't expect anyone else to just achieve that obviously.

[TeamRicky [enjin:6648771]]

I want a guy who has the following trifecta of skills: good perimeter defense, ability to shoot 3s and good passer. There are a handful of guys that fit the bill that are projected to go in the 10-25 range. That is why I hope we acquire a second first rounder in the top 25 either by trading back a little or trading Bazz.

[JasonIsDaMan [enjin:7981157]]

I want a guy who has the following trifecta of skills: good perimeter defense, ability to shoot 3s and good passer. There are a handful of guys that fit the bill that are projected to go in the 10-25 range. That is why I hope we acquire a second first rounder in the top 25 either by trading back a little or trading Bazz.

If Bazz is worth a top 25 pick, why not keep him?
If Bazz is not worth a top 25 pick, then who is trading a top 25 pick for him?
I know you're bored, but you don't need to post EVERY random thought.

[kekgeek]

I want a guy who has the following trifecta of skills: good perimeter defense, ability to shoot 3s and good passer. There are a handful of guys that fit the bill that are projected to go in the 10-25 range. That is why I hope we acquire a second first rounder in the top 25 either by trading back a little or trading Bazz.

If Bazz is worth a top 25 pick, why not keep him?
If Bazz is not worth a top 25 pick, then who is trading a top 25 pick for him?
I know you're bored, but you don't need to post EVERY random thought.

Even though I wouldn't trade Bazz couldn't say that about every player ever traded for a draft pick. You do the trade with the gamble of whoever you get back bring equal or more value back than Bazz. Especially with Bazz being on his last year. I still don't trade him but I see the thought process

[JasonIsDaMan [enjin:7981157]]

I want a guy who has the following trifecta of skills: good perimeter defense, ability to shoot 3s and good passer. There are a handful of guys that fit the bill that are projected to go in the 10-25 range. That is why I hope we acquire a second first rounder in the top 25 either by trading back a little or trading Bazz.

If Bazz is worth a top 25 pick, why not keep him?
If Bazz is not worth a top 25 pick, then who is trading a top 25 pick for him?
I know you're bored, but you don't need to post EVERY random thought.

Even though I wouldn't trade Bazz couldn't say that about every player ever traded for a draft pick. You do the trade with the gamble of whoever you get back bring equal or more value back than Bazz. Especially with Bazz being on his last year. I still don't trade him but I see the thought process

....Or the Wolves can just use their caproom, #5 pick, and improved coaching to get better?

[bleedspeed]

My guess is we will pick someone that shines in workouts if we pick at 5.

[longstrangetrip [enjin:6600564]]

I want a guy who has the following trifecta of skills: good perimeter defense, ability to shoot 3s and good passer. There are a handful of guys that fit the bill that are projected to go in the 10-25 range. That is why I hope we acquire a second first rounder in the top 25 either by trading back a little or trading Bazz.

If Bazz is worth a top 25 pick, why not keep him?
If Bazz is not worth a top 25 pick, then who is trading a top 25 pick for him?
I know you're bored, but you don't need to post EVERY random thought.

Jason, would you say the same thing about Adreain Payne and Chase Budinger? Flip Saunders, a fairly well regarded NBA mind, thought both of these guys were worth a first round pick...and we don't know if he was the only one who thought so. Would you have advised Phoenix and Atlanta not to trade Bud and Payne for first round picks? Anyway, the value of a player is determined both by his natural ability and his fit on a particular team, and different PBOs might value players differently. I like a lot about Bazz...his non-stop motor and relentless offensive rebounding, his explosive vertical, and his quick release. But he also has a lot of flaws, as we all know. Thibs is going to come in and view everyone with fresh eyes, not as someone trying to justify keeping someone because he dealt for or drafted him. If he sees someone he thinks might be available later in the first round that fits better than Bazz, and someone is willing to trade a suitable pick for Bazz, I would be in favor.

[Monster]

I want a guy who has the following trifecta of skills: good perimeter defense, ability to shoot 3s and good passer. There are a handful of guys that fit the bill that are projected to go in the 10-25 range. That is why I hope we acquire a second first rounder in the top 25 either by trading back a little or trading Bazz.

If Bazz is worth a top 25 pick, why not keep him?
If Bazz is not worth a top 25 pick, then who is trading a top 25 pick for him?
I know you're bored, but you don't need to post EVERY random thought.

Jason, would you say the same thing about Adreain Payne and Chase Budinger? Flip Saunders, a fairly well regarded NBA mind, thought both of these guys were worth a first round pick...and we don't know if he was the only one who thought so. Would you have advised Phoenix and Atlanta not to trade Bud and Payne for first round picks? Anyway, the value of a player is determined both by his natural ability and his fit on a particular team, and different PBOs might value players differently. I like a lot about Bazz...his non-stop motor and relentless offensive rebounding, his explosive vertical, and his quick release. But he also has a lot of flaws, as we all know. Thibs is going to come in and view everyone with fresh eyes, not as someone trying to justify keeping someone because he dealt for or drafted him. If he sees someone he thinks might be available later in the first round that fits better than Bazz, and someone is willing to trade a suitable pick for Bazz, I would be in favor.

Kahn traded for Bud not Flip but I think it was a pretty reasonable trade regardless of who made it. Unfortunately it just didn't work out for the Wolves. Jason was a guy that talked up Chase a lot for a couple years before that move.