KiwiMatt wrote:I think we need to move on from Malik Beasley. The more I information that's coming out the worse it's looking. And quite frankly you don't build a winning culture with guys that like on your team.
OR you already have a winning culture that is willing to give him a second chance. But unfortunately we don't have a winning culture, so yeah, tough seeing bringing him back.
KiwiMatt wrote:I think we need to move on from Malik Beasley. The more I information that's coming out the worse it's looking. And quite frankly you don't build a winning culture with guys that like on your team.
OR you already have a winning culture that is willing to give him a second chance. But unfortunately we don't have a winning culture, so yeah, tough seeing bringing him back.
And generally speaking the teams with winning cultures pay these 'second chance' guys Vet Min contracts and not 3/30 lol
I think the Malik is done here. I dont see the wolves bringing him back in any way. Rosas always talks about importance of being a family and having that culture. I read an article last year where he and Wiggins began their relationship by bonding over being fathers. I dont see us bringing back a guy who pointed a gun at his own 19th month old child.
It sucks that we may not get anything from malik. He had great value for us either as a player
or a future valuable trade asset and I dont see any team trading for him. Maybe a team out there would sign him up for a non guaranteed deal but no one is trading for him now. Im very certain of that.
Well, I don't think you have to worry about someone overpaying him (which was the fear some of you had). I'm starting to think they won't bring him back, but I still think they should. Let the league punish Beasley for whatever he did wrong. Don't let the Wolves punish themselves by letting a talented player go. This team isn't good enough to let talent go. The Nuggets were because they have more of those guys. Until this team has a talented enough reason to not need a Beasley, hang onto the talent because that wins out in the end. If character was enough, Wiggins would still be here. He's not because he sucked so much on the court that it became tough to turn on games with him playing.
WildWolf2813 wrote:Well, I don't think you have to worry about someone overpaying him (which was the fear some of you had). I'm starting to think they won't bring him back, but I still think they should. Let the league punish Beasley for whatever he did wrong. Don't let the Wolves punish themselves by letting a talented player go. This team isn't good enough to let talent go. The Nuggets were because they have more of those guys. Until this team has a talented enough reason to not need a Beasley, hang onto the talent because that wins out in the end. If character was enough, Wiggins would still be here. He's not because he sucked so much on the court that it became tough to turn on games with him playing.
I'm on the fence, but I think the Wolves should probably bring him back - assuming he's not suspended for half the season and assuming we can retain him on a cheap deal at around the qualifying offer amount. But if the Wolves keep him, they should think of him as a short-term part of the team. That's because I don't think a guy with his obvious issues can last long before he implodes. So the Wolves should keep him and play him enough to rehab his value around the League. He's really talented and I expect him to put up really good numbers as he did with the Wolves last season. If so, there will be teams willing to overlook his off-court issues and give up good value to get him in a trade.
I think it would be foolish to not at least tender the QO. Let him have a dose of reality on the open market and then he can make an attempt to rehab his life when that reality sinks in how foolish his behavior was with the impact it had on his life via his economic security. The only way he is going to get out of this is through hard work and humility. That's a 4million dollar chance I would take with his talent.
thedoper wrote:I think it would be foolish to not at least tender the QO. Let him have a dose of reality on the open market and then he can make an attempt to rehab his life when that reality sinks in how foolish his behavior was with the impact it had on his life via his economic security. The only way he is going to get out of this is through hard work and humility. That's a 4million dollar chance I would take with his talent.
I tend to agree unless the guy is REALLY far gone (It's possible) less than 4 million in terms of the qualifying offer isn't a huge amount of money. I mean who else could they sign for that kind of money on a short term deal?
thedoper wrote:I think it would be foolish to not at least tender the QO. Let him have a dose of reality on the open market and then he can make an attempt to rehab his life when that reality sinks in how foolish his behavior was with the impact it had on his life via his economic security. The only way he is going to get out of this is through hard work and humility. That's a 4million dollar chance I would take with his talent.
Malik Beasley will be back. Minnesota gave up a first-round pick for him. He'll just be back with a damaged reputation and at a much lower cost monetarily. Whether or not the Wolves decide to keep him for the long-term is a completely different conversation.
thedoper wrote:I think it would be foolish to not at least tender the QO. Let him have a dose of reality on the open market and then he can make an attempt to rehab his life when that reality sinks in how foolish his behavior was with the impact it had on his life via his economic security. The only way he is going to get out of this is through hard work and humility. That's a 4million dollar chance I would take with his talent.
Malik Beasley will be back. Minnesota gave up a first-round pick for him. He'll just be back with a damaged reputation and at a much lower cost monetarily. Whether or not the Wolves decide to keep him for the long-term is a completely different conversation.
What first round pick did we give up. I thought we got him in exchange for Covington. As for whether we keep him, I agree that's a separate question for down the road. My thought is that the Wolves should keep him without assuming he'll be here long term. In fact, they should think short term with him unless they see a real transformation in him. To do the things he apparently has done (and those are just what we know about), suggests deep character flaws that will eventually drive him out of the League. He'll probably need a transformational experience where he's so low that he's highly motivated to fundamentally change. The slap on the wrist I suspect he's about to get from our judicial system probably won't be motivation enough.
thedoper wrote:I think it would be foolish to not at least tender the QO. Let him have a dose of reality on the open market and then he can make an attempt to rehab his life when that reality sinks in how foolish his behavior was with the impact it had on his life via his economic security. The only way he is going to get out of this is through hard work and humility. That's a 4million dollar chance I would take with his talent.
Malik Beasley will be back. Minnesota gave up a first-round pick for him. He'll just be back with a damaged reputation and at a much lower cost monetarily. Whether or not the Wolves decide to keep him for the long-term is a completely different conversation.
What first round pick did we give up. I thought we got him in exchange for Covington. As for whether we keep him, I agree that's a separate question for down the road. My thought is that the Wolves should keep him without assuming he'll be here long term. In fact, they should think short term with him unless they see a real transformation in him. To do the things he apparently has done (and those are just what we know about), suggests deep character flaws that will eventually drive him out of the League. He'll probably need a transformational experience where he's so low that he's highly motivated to fundamentally change. The slap on the wrist I suspect he's about to get from our judicial system probably won't be motivation enough.
"One of the NBA's most expansive trades in nearly 20 years saw the Timberwolves acquire two first-round picks, including Houston's 2020 pick, which they moved on to the Denver Nuggets for guard Malik Beasley and forward Juan Hernangomez, sources said."
