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Unrestricted Free Agents: 27 and Under:

James Young BOS SG 21 3 UFA Bird 29 7.6 2.3 0.9 0.1 0.3 0.1 $1,749,840
Christian Wood CHA PF 21 2 UFA Non-Bird 13 8.2 2.7 2.2 0.2 0.2 0.5 $944,691
Tyler Ennis LAL PG 22 3 UFA Bird 53 11.1 4.3 0.9 1.6 0.5 0.0 $1,662,320
Mike Muscala ATL PF 25 4 UFA Bird 70 17.7 6.2 3.4 1.4 0.4 0.6 $735,231
Jrue Holiday NOP PG 26 8 UFA Bird 67 32.7 15.4 3.9 7.3 1.5 0.6 $10,250,001
Adreian Payne MIN PF 26 3 UFA Bird 18 7.5 3.5 1.8 0.4 0.4 0.4 $1,938,800
Thomas Robinson LAL PF 26 5 UFA Non-Bird 48 11.7 5.0 4.6 0.6 0.6 0.2 $1,050,961
Ian Clark GSW SG 26 4 UFA Early Bird 77 14.8 6.8 1.6 1.2 0.5 0.1 $1,015,696
Donatas Motiejunas NOP PF 26 5 UFA Non-Bird 34 14.1 4.4 3.1 1.0 0.5 0.3 $618,212
Derrick Williams CLE PF 26 6 UFA Non-Bird 50 16.1 6.1 2.6 0.6 0.3 0.2 $268,029
Serge Ibaka TOR PF 27 8 UFA Bird 79 30.7 14.8 6.8 0.9 0.5 1.5 $12,350,000
Tyreke Evans SAC SF 27 8 UFA Bird 40 19.7 10.3 3.4 3.1 0.9 0.2 $11,000,001
Shelvin Mack UTH PG 27 6 UFA Bird 55 21.9 7.8 2.3 2.8 0.8 0.0 $2,433,333
Brandon Jennings WAS PG 27 8 UFA Non-Bird 81 22.2 7.1 2.4 4.9 0.9 0.1 $1,200,000
Luke Babbitt MIA SF 27 7 UFA Bird 69 15.4 4.7 2.1 0.5 0.3 0.2 $1,163,944
Jeff Withey UTH C 27 4 UFA Early Bird 52 8.3 2.8 2.3 0.1 0.3 0.6 $981,486

Hicks123 wrote:I agree monster. I don't expect a big FA signing.

I think the Wolves need to be aggressive in trying to work deals from overspent teams like Detroit, Orlando and Portland.

I have to believe that Portland will try to deal one or more of Aminu, Crabbe, Harkless and Turner. I want nothing to do with Turner, but the other 3 are certainly all worth exploring. I wouldn't give up our #7 pick for any of those 3, but would be willing to give up other assets.

The have plenty of guys they could move. If some team wanted to take Meyers Leonard off their hands (doubtful) they would likely do it. His contract if he can at least hit 3's again isn't too bad. I read a few weeks ago that the Blazers still like him though.

Rather than going after a soon to be 33 year old Redick, I'd rather target Muscala (24), Babbitt (27) Tyler Ennis (22) and Ian Clark (26) for outside shooting for much less dollars. Also, don't forget about Ben Bentil and AJ English who we could sign as D-League players and hold their NBA rights.

TeamRicky wrote:Rather than going after a soon to be 33 year old Redick, I'd rather target Muscala (24), Babbitt (27) Tyler Ennis (22) and Ian Clark (26) for outside shooting for much less dollars. Also, don't forget about Ben Bentil and AJ English who we could sign as D-League players and hold their NBA rights.

I'm with you on this, Ricky, although I wouldn't be interested in Babbitt.

lipoli390 wrote:

TeamRicky wrote:Rather than going after a soon to be 33 year old Redick, I'd rather target Muscala (24), Babbitt (27) Tyler Ennis (22) and Ian Clark (26) for outside shooting for much less dollars. Also, don't forget about Ben Bentil and AJ English who we could sign as D-League players and hold their NBA rights.

I'm with you on this, Ricky, although I wouldn't be interested in Babbitt.

I also agree. I would spend money on j. Green (17 mil a year). About 4 mil on a young flyer like ennis/Clark. Then spend the last 8 on a old vet like carter/allen/thabo.

kekgeek1 wrote:

lipoli390 wrote:

TeamRicky wrote:Rather than going after a soon to be 33 year old Redick, I'd rather target Muscala (24), Babbitt (27) Tyler Ennis (22) and Ian Clark (26) for outside shooting for much less dollars. Also, don't forget about Ben Bentil and AJ English who we could sign as D-League players and hold their NBA rights.

I'm with you on this, Ricky, although I wouldn't be interested in Babbitt.

I also agree. I would spend money on j. Green (17 mil a year). About 4 mil on a young flyer like ennis/Clark. Then spend the last 8 on a old vet like carter/allen/thabo.

I like Green but if the cost between him and Redick isn't much different I'd take Redick because he is a legit high end starter and 2 way player...or maybe sign neither guy. There is just a lot of uncertainty about how much various guys are going to cost.

monsterpile wrote:

kekgeek1 wrote:

lipoli390 wrote:

TeamRicky wrote:Rather than going after a soon to be 33 year old Redick, I'd rather target Muscala (24), Babbitt (27) Tyler Ennis (22) and Ian Clark (26) for outside shooting for much less dollars. Also, don't forget about Ben Bentil and AJ English who we could sign as D-League players and hold their NBA rights.

I'm with you on this, Ricky, although I wouldn't be interested in Babbitt.

I also agree. I would spend money on j. Green (17 mil a year). About 4 mil on a young flyer like ennis/Clark. Then spend the last 8 on a old vet like carter/allen/thabo.

I like Green but if the cost between him and Redick isn't much different I'd take Redick because he is a legit high end starter and 2 way player...or maybe sign neither guy. There is just a lot of uncertainty about how much various guys are going to cost.

I would rather have green. I like Redick but he will be 33 before the season starts and I am worried about his durability going forward when he is getting older. So the decline could be coming.

Also green adds rebounding, toughness, and 3pt shooting from the pf position who can guard 3's and is a good defender. Also 27 so could have 2 contracts with the wolves and could all improve

I think JJ isn't getting a little too overvalued on this board. He shoots 3's and is an above average defender, but he's not stopping or containing any above average wing, he's not position versatile and he can't create anything off the dribble. He averages 2 boards and assists per game and doesn't get in the passing lanes at only 0.5 steals per game. For as much money as people are talking about giving him (18 million), he's just not worth it. And he'll be 33 so his ability to stay in front of people is gonna go down every year. He's gonna be playing the Brandon Rush role so do we really want to make that guy an 18 million dollar player? You just have to be able to do more for that kind of money IMO.

It will be interesting to see what Thibs decides to do. Gallo's injury history is too much of a red flag for my taste at his likely salary of over $16 million per year. Redick's age and lack of position versatility give me pause if he actually does command an annual salary of overly $15 million. That's why I remain in the camp that would like to see us sign Selalosha and a couple younger up-and-comers who provide some combination of 3-point shooting, toughness and/or defense.

lipoli390 wrote:It will be interesting to see what Thibs decides to do. Gallo's injury history is too much of a red flag for my taste at his likely salary of over $16 million per year. Redick's age and lack of position versatility give me pause if he actually does command an annual salary of overly $15 million. That's why I remain in the camp that would like to see us sign Selalosha and a couple younger up-and-comers who provide some combination of 3-point shooting, toughness and/or defense.

To be completely honest this next season comes down a lot on the development of dunn and belly. If they can develop into plus players that will be huge.

But I feel like the wolves are in a shitty spot. The free agent class sort of sucks. We have "good" players like gallo and Gay but who are injury prone. We have specialist like Redick, iggy, and Tucker who are up there in age and legit concern about rapid decline. Millsap would be great but good luck to that for us. I like some of the RFA like porter, green, ingles, KCP, Hardaway but we have to overpay to get them and are porter and KCP really worth a max.

So now we are into the 3rd tier free agents who are old like the thabo, cater, allen. Or young flyers like a Muscala, clark, ennis. But we could end up like last year where the free agency signing where that 3rd tier players.

I wish we could get a promise from one of the free agent pgs like holiday, Teague, hill, Collison who are all around Ricky's tier. So we could trade ricky for a player like Wilson Chandler (who is rumored wants it of Denver).

Wolves are in a weird spot.