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Re: 2016-2017 Free Agent

Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2016 9:10 am
by bleedspeed
Abe - I remember. It was a long time ago. I think they might be on pair. I like the idea that Jennings is more of a scorer than Rubio. Any idea how Jennings is at finishing in the paint?

Re: 2016-2017 Free Agent

Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2016 9:20 am
by AbeVigodaLive
bleedspeed177 wrote:Abe - I remember. It was a long time ago. I think they might be on pair. I like the idea that Jennings is more of a scorer than Rubio. Any idea how Jennings is at finishing in the paint?



Sure. But it's also conceivable Jennings still thinks he's better. And is more than a bit bitter that Rubio is making $54M compared to his $28M... after also signing a larger rookie deal.

So to arrive here as his backup? The egos of many NBA players might make that a tough sell...


[Note: Conjecture. Obviously. But made from anecdotal evidence in NBA history. No idea about Jennings finishing ability.]

Re: 2016-2017 Free Agent

Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2016 9:23 am
by bleedspeed
I think it comes down to if you think Zach is a PG moving forward. Than you might be better off going Fournier or Crabbe, but I think they will cost more. I think Jennings is a buy low player.

Re: 2016-2017 Free Agent

Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2016 11:49 am
by Monster
bleedspeed177 wrote:I think it comes down to if you think Zach is a PG moving forward. Than you might be better off going Fournier or Crabbe, but I think they will cost more. I think Jennings is a buy low player.


It seems like Jennings has had some interest around the league as a trade target so he might not come quite as cheap as I thought. In addition I would think he would have to really believe in his talent to beat out Rubio Lavine Tyus at PG plus Wiggins Bazz for guard minutes. There is a path for him to be a starter here but there is a lot of options.

Also if you are curious about his finishing at the rim...

http://m.bkref.com/m?p=XXplayersXXjXXjennibr01.html&t=5

Re: 2016-2017 Free Agent

Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2016 1:35 pm
by bleedspeed
Monster - Thanks for the link. Man Rubio is just so bad of a shooter. It is crazy. 40% by Jennings looks incredible next to him shooting numbers.

Re: 2016-2017 Free Agent

Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2016 2:24 pm
by Monster
bleedspeed177 wrote:Monster - Thanks for the link. Man Rubio is just so bad of a shooter. It is crazy. 40% by Jennings looks incredible next to him shooting numbers.


Thanks for asking that question it made me frame Jennings a little differently in my mind because was thinking he didn't get to the rim much and took a lot of long 2's. he doesn't get to the line (I remember comparing him to Knight when that deal went down) but he takes a decent amount of shots near the basket and we know he jacks up 3's. The problem at times is Jennings has gotten a rep as a bad defender in addition to jacking up shots. It seemed earlier in his career he was ok at defense but idk really where he is at at this point.

Re: 2016-2017 Free Agent

Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2016 3:27 pm
by Camden [enjin:6601484]
bleedspeed177 wrote:Monster - Thanks for the link. Man Rubio is just so bad of a shooter. It is crazy. 40% by Jennings looks incredible next to him shooting numbers.


Not really. He's a career 39% shooter from the floor on almost 15 shots per game. That hurts your team more than Rubio's 36.4% on only 9 shots per game for his career. Jennings has always been a chucker, and when he's not able to score, he's damn near useless. Rubio's elite in other areas that compensate for his inability to score.

Re: 2016-2017 Free Agent

Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2016 3:40 pm
by AbeVigodaLive
Camden wrote:
bleedspeed177 wrote:Monster - Thanks for the link. Man Rubio is just so bad of a shooter. It is crazy. 40% by Jennings looks incredible next to him shooting numbers.


Not really. He's a career 39% shooter from the floor on almost 15 shots per game. That hurts your team more than Rubio's 36.4% on only 9 shots per game for his career. Jennings has always been a chucker, and when he's not able to score, he's damn near useless. Rubio's elite in other areas that compensate for his inability to score.



I'm not much of a fan of Brandon Jennings, but let's look at Jennings a bit closer.

He was good enough to start on a couple of playoff teams. Granted, they weren't great teams. But he was good enough to start. His career PER is 16.3, with a career high of 19.7 last year until he was injured. Rubio's PER is 15.7 for his career... with a career high of 17.5 this season. And he's never played on a playoff team, of course.

Not claiming Jennings is better. And I understand those are very specific stats. But I just grabbed something quickly to hint that Jennings might not be completely useless when he's not scoring or shooting well.

Re: 2016-2017 Free Agent

Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2016 9:40 pm
by Volans19
Has anyone brought up Robbie Hummel as a target?

Re: 2016-2017 Free Agent

Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2016 10:39 pm
by Q12543 [enjin:6621299]
Volans19 wrote:Has anyone brought up Robbie Hummel as a target?


No, but I'm always willing to volunteer!

Hypothetical question: What if Hummel played every minute this season in place of Bazz? Would we have won more, lost more, or been about the same?

I know my answer!