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Re: What’s really going on?
Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 6:14 pm
by thedoper
CoolBreeze44 wrote:Was listening to Jeff Van Gundy today. Now realizing he is a Thibs supporter, he said some interesting things. One was that Jimmy always espouses the "winning is the most important thing" mantra, but his actions since last season would suggest that money is. He also said the circus he has created has destroyed our preseason, and that no matter if he plays with the Wolves or not, the team is so far behind at this point it will be nearly impossible to dig our way out. In other words just because Jimmy is temporarily back, don't expect the wins to just happen. Too much damage has been done.
Suppose what Van Gundy said is true. How could any Wolves fan with a spec of pride in the franchise support him at this point? I think every fan should be as angry as I am. Jimmy has shit on the entire team and state. For some reason i still care about the Wolves and their future. At a minimum I'm going to expect the employees to care as much as i do.
I loved that Van Gundy interview. Im with you on being done with Jimmy. After that interview what I don't get is why is Thibs still loyal to the guy? The guy is perpetually throwing him under the bus and he's still carry water for Jimmy.
Re: What’s really going on?
Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 6:17 pm
by Monster
thedoper wrote:CoolBreeze44 wrote:Was listening to Jeff Van Gundy today. Now realizing he is a Thibs supporter, he said some interesting things. One was that Jimmy always espouses the "winning is the most important thing" mantra, but his actions since last season would suggest that money is. He also said the circus he has created has destroyed our preseason, and that no matter if he plays with the Wolves or not, the team is so far behind at this point it will be nearly impossible to dig our way out. In other words just because Jimmy is temporarily back, don't expect the wins to just happen. Too much damage has been done.
Suppose what Van Gundy said is true. How could any Wolves fan with a spec of pride in the franchise support him at this point? I think every fan should be as angry as I am. Jimmy has shit on the entire team and state. For some reason i still care about the Wolves and their future. At a minimum I'm going to expect the employees to care as much as i do.
I loved that Van Gundy interview. Im with you on being done with Jimmy. After that interview what I don't get is why is Thibs still loyal to the guy? The guy is perpetually throwing him under the bus and he's still carry water for Jimmy.
Where did you guys see the interview?
Re: What’s really going on?
Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 6:20 pm
by thedoper
monsterpile wrote:thedoper wrote:CoolBreeze44 wrote:Was listening to Jeff Van Gundy today. Now realizing he is a Thibs supporter, he said some interesting things. One was that Jimmy always espouses the "winning is the most important thing" mantra, but his actions since last season would suggest that money is. He also said the circus he has created has destroyed our preseason, and that no matter if he plays with the Wolves or not, the team is so far behind at this point it will be nearly impossible to dig our way out. In other words just because Jimmy is temporarily back, don't expect the wins to just happen. Too much damage has been done.
Suppose what Van Gundy said is true. How could any Wolves fan with a spec of pride in the franchise support him at this point? I think every fan should be as angry as I am. Jimmy has shit on the entire team and state. For some reason i still care about the Wolves and their future. At a minimum I'm going to expect the employees to care as much as i do.
I loved that Van Gundy interview. Im with you on being done with Jimmy. After that interview what I don't get is why is Thibs still loyal to the guy? The guy is perpetually throwing him under the bus and he's still carry water for Jimmy.
Where did you guys see the interview?
I was referring to the Zach Lowe podcast with him. JVG goes off for 20 mins on Jimmy and the Wolves. Cool may have found a different interview but I assumed it was that one.
https://itunes.apple.com/ca/podcast/the-lowe-post/id986595124?mt=2
Re: What’s really going on?
Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 6:54 pm
by khans2k5 [enjin:6608728]
CoolBreeze44 wrote:Was listening to Jeff Van Gundy today. Now realizing he is a Thibs supporter, he said some interesting things. One was that Jimmy always espouses the "winning is the most important thing" mantra, but his actions since last season would suggest that money is. He also said the circus he has created has destroyed our preseason, and that no matter if he plays with the Wolves or not, the team is so far behind at this point it will be nearly impossible to dig our way out. In other words just because Jimmy is temporarily back, don't expect the wins to just happen. Too much damage has been done.
Suppose what Van Gundy said is true. How could any Wolves fan with a spec of pride in the franchise support him at this point? I think every fan should be as angry as I am. Jimmy has shit on the entire team and state. For some reason i still care about the Wolves and their future. At a minimum I'm going to expect the employees to care as much as i do.
I think you are mistaking supporting him with he's getting paid 20 million to win us games so his ass should be on the court earning that money. I frankly don't care about any of their feelings. Show up and play some damn basketball that you get paid to play. It's called being a professional. I don't understand how Jimmy is affecting your pride in the team and associating this as an assault on Minnesota is crazy. First off. What in the last 15 years has earned pride for being a fan of this franchise? Second off. He hasn't said one bad thing about the state. He's not asking out because it's Minnesota. He's asking out because of money and teammates. It's time to be a grown up. Earn your paycheck. And then don't let the door hit you on the way out. I don't get how Jimmy is the one that is ruining basketball in Minnesota. Everyone on the team and in the organization has let this happen and nobody stepped up to him. There's no pride to be recovered from that. The franchise is a joke and has been a joke for the last 15 years. Jimmy is not the one person who's gonna bring it all down. It's taking a massive group effort from everyone to enable this. How is this the tipping point of losing respect for the organization? They frankly shouldn't have any left from anyone at this point anyway.
Re: What’s really going on?
Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 7:24 pm
by Monster
thedoper wrote:monsterpile wrote:thedoper wrote:CoolBreeze44 wrote:Was listening to Jeff Van Gundy today. Now realizing he is a Thibs supporter, he said some interesting things. One was that Jimmy always espouses the "winning is the most important thing" mantra, but his actions since last season would suggest that money is. He also said the circus he has created has destroyed our preseason, and that no matter if he plays with the Wolves or not, the team is so far behind at this point it will be nearly impossible to dig our way out. In other words just because Jimmy is temporarily back, don't expect the wins to just happen. Too much damage has been done.
Suppose what Van Gundy said is true. How could any Wolves fan with a spec of pride in the franchise support him at this point? I think every fan should be as angry as I am. Jimmy has shit on the entire team and state. For some reason i still care about the Wolves and their future. At a minimum I'm going to expect the employees to care as much as i do.
I loved that Van Gundy interview. Im with you on being done with Jimmy. After that interview what I don't get is why is Thibs still loyal to the guy? The guy is perpetually throwing him under the bus and he's still carry water for Jimmy.
Where did you guys see the interview?
I was referring to the Zach Lowe podcast with him. JVG goes off for 20 mins on Jimmy and the Wolves. Cool may have found a different interview but I assumed it was that one.
https://itunes.apple.com/ca/podcast/the-lowe-post/id986595124?mt=2
Thanks! Lots of good stuff there all the way to the end.
Re: What’s really going on?
Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 7:49 pm
by Coolbreeze44
I heard him being interviewed by Chris Russo today on Mad Dog radio.
Re: What’s really going on?
Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 8:03 pm
by Lipoli390
CoolBreeze44 wrote:I heard him being interviewed by Chris Russo today on Mad Dog radio.
Jimmy or JVG?
Re: What’s really going on?
Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 8:25 pm
by Lipoli390
Here's the latest from Glen Taylor:
Thibodeau has three years left on his five-year that deal that was worth about $40 million. Is he coaching for his job? "No, no, the only thing now is that we are starting to play games and I am asking him to concentrate on coaching and the GM Scott Layden will help to see if any trades are available," Taylor said. - via Minneapolis Star-Tribune.
Glen also said he's going to trade Butler "to get a player or two...". What an idiotic thing to say.
I've tried so hard to see Glen in a positive light and I've defended him often. But I'm done. He is totally clueless. And he must be surrounded by a bunch of sycophants who don't challenge him.
Re: What’s really going on?
Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 8:29 pm
by longstrangetrip [enjin:6600564]
lipoli390 wrote:Here's the latest from Glen Taylor:
Thibodeau has three years left on his five-year that deal that was worth about $40 million. Is he coaching for his job? "No, no, the only thing now is that we are starting to play games and I am asking him to concentrate on coaching and the GM Scott Layden will help to see if any trades are available," Taylor said. - via Minneapolis Star-Tribune.
Glen also said he's going to trade Butler "to get a player or two...". What an idiotic thing to say.
I've tried so hard to see Glen in a positive light and I've defended him often. But I'm done. He is totally clueless. And he must be surrounded by a bunch of sycophants who don't challenge him.
I'm out of town so I won't be at the game Friday, Lip, but i suspect you will be. If you can catch a glimpse of Taylor's face when Thibs inevitably gets booed in introductions, let us know his expression...that should give us some indication of what he plans to do with Thibs. I suspect Tom is still on a very short leash.
Re: What’s really going on?
Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 8:33 pm
by Q12543 [enjin:6621299]
lipoli390 wrote:Here's the latest from Glen Taylor:
Thibodeau has three years left on his five-year that deal that was worth about $40 million. Is he coaching for his job? "No, no, the only thing now is that we are starting to play games and I am asking him to concentrate on coaching and the GM Scott Layden will help to see if any trades are available," Taylor said. - via Minneapolis Star-Tribune.
Glen also said he's going to trade Butler "to get a player or two...". What an idiotic thing to say.
I've tried so hard to see Glen in a positive light and I've defended him often. But I'm done. He is totally clueless. And he must be surrounded by a bunch of sycophants who don't challenge him.
This is why I have the team down for only 28 wins, despite the talent to win a lot more. Taylor clearly can't see that Thibs has already lost the team. Now we get to witness a bunch of games of joyless offense and no defense. Taylor, as usual, is the last to see a need for change and is going to give Thibs at least 50 games to hang himself.
Crank up the lottery machine.....