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kekgeek1 wrote:

khans2k5 wrote:

CoolBreeze44 wrote:Five of us had the Warriors in 5. I was one of them, I believe LST also. Who else?

Me too

Me also

monsterpile wrote:

longstrangetrip wrote:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/lebron-james-draymond-green-tyronn-lue_us_575b8415e4b0e39a28adbcad

I forgot about Iverson stepping over Lue in the 2001 finals...I wonder if Lue flashed back to that moment when LeBron channeled it! It looks like LeBron is getting the worst of the internet discussion about the play, and also some criticism for not stepping up enough for his team. I'm going to defend James on this one. He went 25, 13 and 9, and was by far the Cavs' best defender all night. I'm going to cut him some slack about both the stepover and his contributions...he's obviously frustrated realizing the Big 3 he helped assemble just isn't good enough to play with the 4 best teams in the West.

I'm sure most of us aren't expecting a very competitive Game 5 in Oakland.

I hate being too critical of Lebron the player. He is truly a great player no matter where you rank him he is clearly one of the best players ever to play the game.

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I've never been a Lebron fan. I respect his game he is a terrific player but for some reason I've never felt a connection to his game. I think what bugged me about as much as anything was when he was playing physical D on Curry there late and Curry was going to the ref talking to him about it. I don't know what Curry said but he seemed to have a amused look on his face complaining but in a sort of jovial manner and then Lebron got all out of whack. I get it Lebron had to be really frustrated the guy is a competitor and things aren't looking good against the Warriors despite a very talented Cavs team led by Lebron. However Lebron complains about as much as anyone (some of it completely legit) so for him to get all pissy about Curry making a legit complaint the way he was idk it seemed kinda lame but oh well. It's not what In gonna remember Lebron by 10-20 years from now.

AbeVigodaLive wrote:

monsterpile wrote:

longstrangetrip wrote:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/lebron-james-draymond-green-tyronn-lue_us_575b8415e4b0e39a28adbcad

I forgot about Iverson stepping over Lue in the 2001 finals...I wonder if Lue flashed back to that moment when LeBron channeled it! It looks like LeBron is getting the worst of the internet discussion about the play, and also some criticism for not stepping up enough for his team. I'm going to defend James on this one. He went 25, 13 and 9, and was by far the Cavs' best defender all night. I'm going to cut him some slack about both the stepover and his contributions...he's obviously frustrated realizing the Big 3 he helped assemble just isn't good enough to play with the 4 best teams in the West.

I'm sure most of us aren't expecting a very competitive Game 5 in Oakland.

I hate being too critical of Lebron the player. He is truly a great player no matter where you rank him he is clearly one of the best players ever to play the game.

...

I've never been a Lebron fan. I respect his game he is a terrific player but for some reason I've never felt a connection to his game. I think what bugged me about as much as anything was when he was playing physical D on Curry there late and Curry was going to the ref talking to him about it. I don't know what Curry said but he seemed to have a amused look on his face complaining but in a sort of jovial manner and then Lebron got all out of whack. I get it Lebron had to be really frustrated the guy is a competitor and things aren't looking good against the Warriors despite a very talented Cavs team led by Lebron. However Lebron complains about as much as anyone (some of it completely legit) so for him to get all pissy about Curry making a legit complaint the way he was idk it seemed kinda lame but oh well. It's not what In gonna remember Lebron by 10-20 years from now.

Remember, this is a guy basically proclaimed "the king" at 17 years old. Few players in NBA history have had as much clout as him on multiple basketball teams. Even fewer have had as much clout with the media (3 guys hired by ESPN just to write about James and the Heat!).

A sense of entitlement almost seems like a prerequisite with many of today's athletes.

So it's not exactly a surprise that a guy like James who's been coddled for the vast majority of his life feels pretty damn entitled by it.


[Note: As for the other stuff. Yes. He's obviously one of the best players ever. No doubt. But I've never been able to embrace him. Whether it was the absurd power/athleticism I just didn't relate to or the sense of entitlement or the feeling of manufactured behind-the-scenes narratives from his camp... I pretty much always prefer that his teams lose.]