CoolBreeze44 wrote:
Isn't this said every time before the national anthem is played? "Ladies and gentleman, please rise as (so and so) performs our star spangled banner". I don't know how the act of rising to our feet began, but we've been asked to do it for a century.
So I take that as you have no other example then? Cool.
PS: Your response is obviously beside the point. After all this is America where we have freedoms and there's no law saying you have to even recognize the anthem. So again I ask, can you come up with a single other instance where kneeling is seen as anything, but respectful?
The NFL stayed in the Lockerroom until 2009 during the national anthem. They started coming out for a recruiting tool for the military
Exactly Kek. It wasn't some noble cause, it was about money for the NFL. If it wasn't disrespectful for the players to not be out on the field for it showing support, then how is something as peaceful as kneeling.
CoolBreeze44 wrote:
Isn't this said every time before the national anthem is played? "Ladies and gentleman, please rise as (so and so) performs our star spangled banner". I don't know how the act of rising to our feet began, but we've been asked to do it for a century.
So I take that as you have no other example then? Cool.
PS: Your response is obviously beside the point. After all this is America where we have freedoms and there's no law saying you have to even recognize the anthem. So again I ask, can you come up with a single other instance where kneeling is seen as anything, but respectful?
The NFL stayed in the Lockerroom until 2009 during the national anthem. They started coming out for a recruiting tool for the military
Exactly Kek. It wasn't some noble cause, it was about money for the NFL. If it wasn't disrespectful for the players to not be out on the field for it showing support, then how is something as peaceful as kneeling.
I think we can resolve all this protest stuff if black players simply ask the white community which form of peaceful protesting they'd prefer before they do it.
I'm thinking something slightly more non-threatening than kneeling would do the trick... maybe like the top-corner of the left sock cuffed or something.
AbeVigodaLive wrote:
Ha. I included very similar thoughts about "black/white/gray" as well... but I went with 80%...
Then again... that 80% was from my thinking a couple of years ago. By normalizing the 10% on either side... we're slowly taking more away from those in the middle.
[Note: Obviously, my SN is because I was a huge fan of Kim Fields on The Facts of Life. ... errr... Mike Seaver? Sam Malone? Rudy Huxtable? Damn it. I forget.]
lol sound about right. I try to air on the side of underestimating rather than overestimating.
CoolBreeze44 wrote:
Isn't this said every time before the national anthem is played? "Ladies and gentleman, please rise as (so and so) performs our star spangled banner". I don't know how the act of rising to our feet began, but we've been asked to do it for a century.
So I take that as you have no other example then? Cool.
PS: Your response is obviously beside the point. After all this is America where we have freedoms and there's no law saying you have to even recognize the anthem. So again I ask, can you come up with a single other instance where kneeling is seen as anything, but respectful?
The NFL stayed in the Lockerroom until 2009 during the national anthem. They started coming out for a recruiting tool for the military
Exactly Kek. It wasn't some noble cause, it was about money for the NFL. If it wasn't disrespectful for the players to not be out on the field for it showing support, then how is something as peaceful as kneeling.
I think we can resolve all this protest stuff if black players simply ask the white community which form of peaceful protesting they'd prefer before they do it.
I'm thinking something slightly more non-threatening than kneeling would do the trick... maybe like the top-corner of the left sock cuffed or something.
apollotsg wrote:
2. The person claiming "Black leaders wrote/pushed these laws" - that is very wrong sir. The American Legislative Exchange Council is responsible for many of the war on drug laws for all the previous administrations...corporate America literally wrote them so... I encourage all of you to start looking at the private entities that are pushing laws. There are lawmakers who have introduced their laws and forgot to remove the "insert state name here" - that is how ridiculous this is.
What are people's thoughts on the Democrats proposed "Justice in Policing Act"? I'd do a link but I'll let people google it and pick what links to click. =)
CoolBreeze44 wrote:
Isn't this said every time before the national anthem is played? "Ladies and gentleman, please rise as (so and so) performs our star spangled banner". I don't know how the act of rising to our feet began, but we've been asked to do it for a century.
So I take that as you have no other example then? Cool.
PS: Your response is obviously beside the point. After all this is America where we have freedoms and there's no law saying you have to even recognize the anthem. So again I ask, can you come up with a single other instance where kneeling is seen as anything, but respectful?
The NFL stayed in the Lockerroom until 2009 during the national anthem. They started coming out for a recruiting tool for the military
Exactly Kek. It wasn't some noble cause, it was about money for the NFL. If it wasn't disrespectful for the players to not be out on the field for it showing support, then how is something as peaceful as kneeling.
I think we can resolve all this protest stuff if black players simply ask the white community which form of peaceful protesting they'd prefer before they do it.
I'm thinking something slightly more non-threatening than kneeling would do the trick... maybe like the top-corner of the left sock cuffed or something.
CoolBreeze44 wrote:
Isn't this said every time before the national anthem is played? "Ladies and gentleman, please rise as (so and so) performs our star spangled banner". I don't know how the act of rising to our feet began, but we've been asked to do it for a century.
So I take that as you have no other example then? Cool.
PS: Your response is obviously beside the point. After all this is America where we have freedoms and there's no law saying you have to even recognize the anthem. So again I ask, can you come up with a single other instance where kneeling is seen as anything, but respectful?
The NFL stayed in the Lockerroom until 2009 during the national anthem. They started coming out for a recruiting tool for the military
Exactly Kek. It wasn't some noble cause, it was about money for the NFL. If it wasn't disrespectful for the players to not be out on the field for it showing support, then how is something as peaceful as kneeling.
I think we can resolve all this protest stuff if black players simply ask the white community which form of peaceful protesting they'd prefer before they do it.
I'm thinking something slightly more non-threatening than kneeling would do the trick... maybe like the top-corner of the left sock cuffed or something.
TheGrey08 wrote:
Well said Khans. You went right to the heart of it and what it's truly about. Brees was just another person parroting the narrative of people trying to make kneeling during the anthem a disrespect to the military when that was never what it was about. In fact, they started kneeling as to NOT disrespect the military and it was suggested by someone in the military.
When has kneeling EVER been considered a negative or disrespectful act before the anthem kneeling happened? I honestly cannot think of any other example where kneeling was seeing as anything but respectful. CWhen has kneeling EVER been considered a negative or disrespectful act before the anthem kneeling happened? I honestly cannot think of any other example where kneeling was seeing as anything but respectful. Can anyone think of a single example prior to this?
Isn't this said every time before the national anthem is played? "Ladies and gentleman, please rise as (so and so) performs our star spangled banner". I don't know how the act of rising to our feet began, but we've been asked to do it for a century.
So I take that as you have no other example then? Cool.
PS: Your response is obviously beside the point. After all this is America where we have freedoms and there's no law saying you have to even recognize the anthem. So again I ask, can you come up with a single other instance where kneeling is seen as anything, but respectful?
I'm not trying to be confrontational here. I'm just saying that you are always asked to stand for the national anthem. So if you do something other than stand, at a minimum you're being disrespectful to the PA announcer. But no, kneeling in and of itself is not normally disrespectful, in fact it's most often the opposite. I'm sure we can figure out when it's intent is one or the other.
