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Re: Official 2016 Draft Thread
Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 10:43 am
by BizarroJerry [enjin:6592520]
bleedspeed177 wrote:Who are comparisons to Hield in the NBA?
Ford: Yep. I hate these. Even when I talk to scouts about Hield, you never get much consensus on comps.
On the high side, players like Eric Gordon, Bradley Beal and C.J. McCollum all are about his size and all are shooters with range. Hield doesn't have the strength of a Gordon or Beal and he's not the passer McCollum is, but if he hit his ceiling, he could be that type of scorer in the league.
On the worst-case scenario, I see some Jimmer Fredette in Hield. Fredette was a Wooden Award winner as a senior. He had ridiculous range on his jumper and had the ultimate confidence that Hield possesses. However, I think Hield might be a better prospect. He's more athletic. He's longer. I think his work ethic is stronger.
Middle of the road: Wesley Matthews or Jodie Meeks?
I lean toward the higher comps because of Hield's work ethic. He's relentless when it comes to working on his game and I think that will help him in the NBA. Dana O'Neil's feature on Hield last week has to be compelling to scouts. But your point about making contested shots in the college game really worries me.
Pelton: I've been thinking about Matthews as a good outcome for Hield. He's nearly a 39 percent career 3-point shooter, and has done so with terrific volume -- he's been in the league's top 10 in 3s each of the past six seasons. Matthews can also create his own shot at times and is a tough, physical defender.
As far as a less positive outcome, I'd go with one of SCHOENE's top comparisons: Marcus Thornton. Thornton was a 39 percent 3-point shooter at LSU who hasn't been quite as accurate in the NBA, shooting about 36 percent beyond the arc. As a result, Thornton is more of a volume scorer, and his defensive limitations have largely confined him to a reserve role.
Thanks Bleed. Speaking of Matthews, do you think he's a guy we could/should trade for?
Re: Official 2016 Draft Thread
Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 5:12 pm
by Camden [enjin:6601484]
Ben Simmons breakdown and comparisons. Really great work. I highly recommend. http://sports.yahoo.com/video/lsus-ben-simmons-compares-nba-214208401.html?soc_src=mail&soc_trk=ma
Re: Official 2016 Draft Thread
Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 5:26 pm
by thedoper
Camden wrote:Ben Simmons breakdown and comparisons. Really great work. I highly recommend. http://sports.yahoo.com/video/lsus-ben-simmons-compares-nba-214208401.html?soc_src=mail&soc_trk=ma
Thanks for the video. Looks good to me. I think Bazz would be losing some PT but oh well. He definitely looks like he'd get time at the 3 and 4. I like his talent a lot, any dynamic big that can move the ball well is fun to watch.
Re: Official 2016 Draft Thread
Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2016 6:45 pm
by worldK
Hypothetical Question
If the wolves somehow landed the number 1 pick. Would you be willing to trade that pick for Kristaps Porzingis?
Porzingis has become so popular with the knicks but ben simmons is just as marketable.
I will answer first and that is a yes for me. Porzingis is a perfect fit next to towns/wiggins/rubio and lavine core. He can impact the game on defense and he can be an impactr player on offense even without much plays runs for him.
Re: Official 2016 Draft Thread
Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2016 6:51 pm
by TheFuture
worldK wrote:Hypothetical Question
If the wolves somehow landed the number 1 pick. Would you be willing to trade that pick for Kristaps Porzingis?
Porzingis has become so popular with the knicks but ben simmons is just as marketable.
I will answer first and that is a yes for me. Porzingis is a perfect fit next to towns/wiggins/rubio and lavine core. He can impact the game on defense and he can be an impactr player on offense even without much plays runs for him.
I'd definitely do that, and I bet everyone here would. I'm more likely to get struck by lightning this week though than that trade happening. NY would need to fire their whole front office if it does.
Re: Official 2016 Draft Thread
Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2016 6:52 pm
by Camden [enjin:6601484]
worldK wrote:Hypothetical Question
If the wolves somehow landed the number 1 pick. Would you be willing to trade that pick for Kristaps Porzingis?
Porzingis has become so popular with the knicks but ben simmons is just as marketable.
I will answer first and that is a yes for me. Porzingis is a perfect fit next to towns/wiggins/rubio and lavine core. He can impact the game on defense and he can be an impactr player on offense even without much plays runs for him.
That'll be a no from me, but I will admit that Porzingis is producing way more than I thought he would right away.
Re: Official 2016 Draft Thread
Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2016 7:21 pm
by bleedspeed
What if we got the first pick and the lakers got the third. Would uou swap picks if they gave up Randle and Russell? Knowing that Ingram and simmons would be off the board.
Re: Official 2016 Draft Thread
Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2016 7:49 pm
by worldK
bleedspeed177 wrote:What if we got the first pick and the lakers got the third. Would uou swap picks if they gave up Randle and Russell? Knowing that Ingram and Dunn would be off the board.
Interesting. I assume simmons and ingram will go 1 and 2 in next years draft. I will offer russel to the sixers for noel and draft dunn @ 3rd. We basically get noel, dunn and randle for the 1st pick.
Re: Official 2016 Draft Thread
Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2016 7:59 pm
by bleedspeed
It is a tough one to me.
Re: Official 2016 Draft Thread
Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2016 8:03 pm
by Camden [enjin:6601484]
If we get the No. 1 pick, I'm taking Ingram and not looking back.