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Carlos Danger wrote: Sun May 21, 2023 10:15 am Cumulative Play off VORP for our former Wolves:

0 - Russell
0 - Vanderbilt
0 - Beasley

Not what the Lakers hoped for when they pulled off the deadline trades. I'm wondering if they will even try to re-sign DLO at this point? This is the second year in a row he's basically been benched in the playoffs.

DLO's running with LeBron James and AD....I'm not sure he will ever have a better situation than he's in currently. I think they would have been better off with Conley after seeing how things shook out. Good trade by TC.
It will be interesting to see what the market is ($$) for Russell this offseason. At this point it looks like Connelly made the right choice moving on from Russell.
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Carlos Danger wrote: Sun May 21, 2023 10:22 am
BloopOracle wrote: Sat May 20, 2023 8:50 pm It is sad to see Camden spiral like this, he's become as delusional as TeamRicky was back in the day. A guy who had one of the best eyes for college prospects on the board, constantly nailing NBA quality players. He went SUPER hard banging the drum for Wiseman, even calling for the Wolves front office to be fired if they didn't draft him. He bombed that prediction, but just own it instead of getting defensive! That seemed to be the catalyst, and then the Russell situation unfolding pushed him over the edge.
I looked at his Twitter pic. He looks like a young dude which is always what I assumed. It all makes sense to me. Some of us were probably arguing with him on here while he was still in high school - hahaha!

On a side note....I'm going to have to be careful going forward. Lots of good internet sleuths on here that are tracking down people's identities. First LST, now Cam. Who's next?
If I'm not mistaken, Cam served our country in the military, and for that, he should be given a ton of respect and gratitude.

He actually had a lot of really good basketball takes (I was dead wrong on Wiseman too by the way). He just got sideways on the DLO issue for some reason and that sort of tainted all of his other very credible takes.
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Q-is-here wrote: Sun May 21, 2023 10:26 am
Carlos Danger wrote: Sun May 21, 2023 10:15 am Cumulative Play off VORP for our former Wolves:

0 - Russell
0 - Vanderbilt
0 - Beasley

Not what the Lakers hoped for when they pulled off the deadline trades. I'm wondering if they will even try to re-sign DLO at this point? This is the second year in a row he's basically been benched in the playoffs.

DLO's running with LeBron James and AD....I'm not sure he will ever have a better situation than he's in currently. I think they would have been better off with Conley after seeing how things shook out. Good trade by TC.
Yes, worked out well for the Wolves.....well, except for the part that DLO, Vando, and Beasley are in the Western Conference Finals and Conley isn't! But I digress.....

DLO was doing OK-ish - his usual up and down self - until this series. He's almost unplayable at this point. If his shot isn't falling, he's just a total disaster because these really good teams will target him.
I will add that Russell can still have some value offensively if he isn’t shooting well because he is a PG. The problem with the Lakers is if he is playing with the starters he is playing with Lebron, Reaves and even AD who can make plays for others so they don’t really need that skill much. Another team with fewer playmakers he would have more value in that way. Schroder clearly brings something more in terms of ball pressure than Russell so he is gonna see the floor more even if both he and Russell are struggling on offense.
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Q-is-here wrote: Sun May 21, 2023 10:26 am
Carlos Danger wrote: Sun May 21, 2023 10:15 am Cumulative Play off VORP for our former Wolves:

0 - Russell
0 - Vanderbilt
0 - Beasley

Not what the Lakers hoped for when they pulled off the deadline trades. I'm wondering if they will even try to re-sign DLO at this point? This is the second year in a row he's basically been benched in the playoffs.

DLO's running with LeBron James and AD....I'm not sure he will ever have a better situation than he's in currently. I think they would have been better off with Conley after seeing how things shook out. Good trade by TC.
Yes, worked out well for the Wolves.....well, except for the part that DLO, Vando, and Beasley are in the Western Conference Finals and Conley isn't! But I digress.....

DLO was doing OK-ish - his usual up and down self - until this series. He's almost unplayable at this point. If his shot isn't falling, he's just a total disaster because these really good teams will target him.
Yeah....all those former Wolves are in the finals - that is a true statement. And they should be sending fruit baskets to LeBron and AD because that's the reason they got there. None of those guys are playing big minutes or having an impact right now. That has to be a big disappointment.
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I think these playoffs sort of show why the wolves didn’t just want to run it back last year. Dlo has been the worst rotation piece of these final 4 teams by far, Beasley out of the rotation, Vando a 10th man on a good team, Pat Bev regressed a lot this year offensively, bolmaro was nothing. Now it seems like the wolves picked the wrong guy to acquire but it’s being shown that the players they traded are not impactful players in the most meaningful games
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kekgeek wrote: Sun May 21, 2023 11:07 am I think these playoffs sort of show why the wolves didn’t just want to run it back last year. Dlo has been the worst rotation piece of these final 4 teams by far, Beasley out of the rotation, Vando a 10th man on a good team, Pat Bev regressed a lot this year offensively, bolmaro was nothing. Now it seems like the wolves picked the wrong guy to acquire but it’s being shown that the players they traded are not impactful players in the most meaningful games
What's painful is that the most valuable asset we parted with was likely.....Walker Kessler. Ouch.
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Carlos Danger wrote: Sun May 21, 2023 10:51 am
Q-is-here wrote: Sun May 21, 2023 10:26 am
Carlos Danger wrote: Sun May 21, 2023 10:15 am Cumulative Play off VORP for our former Wolves:

0 - Russell
0 - Vanderbilt
0 - Beasley

Not what the Lakers hoped for when they pulled off the deadline trades. I'm wondering if they will even try to re-sign DLO at this point? This is the second year in a row he's basically been benched in the playoffs.

DLO's running with LeBron James and AD....I'm not sure he will ever have a better situation than he's in currently. I think they would have been better off with Conley after seeing how things shook out. Good trade by TC.
Yes, worked out well for the Wolves.....well, except for the part that DLO, Vando, and Beasley are in the Western Conference Finals and Conley isn't! But I digress.....

DLO was doing OK-ish - his usual up and down self - until this series. He's almost unplayable at this point. If his shot isn't falling, he's just a total disaster because these really good teams will target him.
Yeah....all those former Wolves are in the finals - that is a true statement. And they should be sending fruit baskets to LeBron and AD because that's the reason they got there. None of those guys are playing big minutes or having an impact right now. That has to be a big disappointment.
Yes, AD and LeBron have been good (OK, AD has been great). But they DID get help and DLO and Vando were useful in stretches in the earlier rounds. We've seen the limit of their usefulness though.

The Wolves had Max Gobert, Max KAT, and soon to be Max Ant, yet couldn't beat the Lakers with AD, LeBron, and a bunch of random piece-parts.
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But is that an accurate depiction of the Wolves vs. Lakers this season, Q? We were missing two starters (Rudy and Jaden) plus our highest-scoring bench player in the play-in game and the Lakers were 100%, and we still took them to OT on their court. Combine that with our 2-1 record in the regular season, and I see the Wolves as superior to the Lakers right now. Both teams were outclassed by the Nuggets in the playoffs, but I think many of us think the outcome of our series would have been different had Jaden and Naz been healthy.
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Couple things.

I can't see how the Lakers re-sign DLO this summer. They are always after bigger fish and I can't imagine them tying up some of their cap space with him. He will get a decent deal somewhere, but I don't think it will be with the Lakers.

Ant once again stepped forward in the postseason for us, but KAT didn't join him for the 2nd straight year. This might be the last chance we have to get decent value for KAT, and I think TC is going to do it.
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kekgeek wrote: Sun May 21, 2023 11:07 am I think these playoffs sort of show why the wolves didn’t just want to run it back last year. Dlo has been the worst rotation piece of these final 4 teams by far, Beasley out of the rotation, Vando a 10th man on a good team, Pat Bev regressed a lot this year offensively, bolmaro was nothing. Now it seems like the wolves picked the wrong guy to acquire but it’s being shown that the players they traded are not impactful players in the most meaningful games
I've been steadfast in believing last year's Wolves running it back woulda missed the playoffs. What I do think TC's obsession with getting a center was a reaction to Brandon Clarke owning Vando. If it wasn't Gobert it woulda been Capela or someone else.
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