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[Camden [enjin:6601484]]

Speaking of John Collins, I wonder if this front office would think about making a trade for him this season considering the Hawks now have their money all wrapped up in Danilo Gallinari, Clint Capela, Bogdan Bogdanovic, and soon to be maxed Trae Young. There were rumors last year that Atlanta didn't want to pay Collins...

[Monster]

Speaking of John Collins, I wonder if this front office would think about making a trade for him this season considering the Hawks now have their money all wrapped up in Danilo Gallinari, Clint Capela, Bogdan Bogdanovic, and soon to be maxed Trae Young. There were rumors last year that Atlanta didn't want to pay Collins...

Here is the question with Collins...what are you willing to pay him?

[worldK]

Speaking of John Collins, I wonder if this front office would think about making a trade for him this season considering the Hawks now have their money all wrapped up in Danilo Gallinari, Clint Capela, Bogdan Bogdanovic, and soon to be maxed Trae Young. There were rumors last year that Atlanta didn't want to pay Collins...

Here is the question with Collins...what are you willing to pay him?

Im willing to pay him what we paid malik. He has improved his defense. He is an excellent rebounder(a team need atm). Started shooting and making 3's last season. Dont need plays run for him and can get you 20pts just with his activity level. Great finisher. Would be ideal with both dlo and rubio. Fits the system.

A bigger question is what can we offer in a trade for
him? Hawks are loaded at the guards/wings
with young/rondo/bogan/huertas/hunter/reddish. I dont see them
having interests in okogie, culver or beasley. We dont have picks next year as well. I would love collins in exchane of one of the 3 wings
but i dont see a workeable deal for hawks.

[Camden [enjin:6601484]]

Speaking of John Collins, I wonder if this front office would think about making a trade for him this season considering the Hawks now have their money all wrapped up in Danilo Gallinari, Clint Capela, Bogdan Bogdanovic, and soon to be maxed Trae Young. There were rumors last year that Atlanta didn't want to pay Collins...

Here is the question with Collins...what are you willing to pay him?

He's probably in the max contract conversation whether we like it or not. Maybe he'll end up getting a four-year, $80-million deal instead if the market just isn't there for him as a RFA. That alone probably takes us out of the trade market for him, but it's fun to think about.

The Wolves would likely be in the luxury tax next year, but then Ricky Rubio's deal comes off the books and Juan Hernangomez's option could be declined. They'd easily be under the luxury tax line by then.

[Monster]

Speaking of John Collins, I wonder if this front office would think about making a trade for him this season considering the Hawks now have their money all wrapped up in Danilo Gallinari, Clint Capela, Bogdan Bogdanovic, and soon to be maxed Trae Young. There were rumors last year that Atlanta didn't want to pay Collins...

Here is the question with Collins...what are you willing to pay him?

He's probably in the max contract conversation whether we like it or not. Maybe he'll end up getting a four-year, $80-million deal instead if the market just isn't there for him as a RFA. That alone probably takes us out of the trade market for him, but it's fun to think about.

The Wolves would likely be in the luxury tax next year, but then Ricky Rubio's deal comes off the books and Juan Hernangomez's option could be declined. They'd easily be under the luxury tax line by then.

I agree with what you said here. Jeremi Grant got 4 years 80 million...if the spending we saw this offseason holds up for when Collins is available...maybe he doesn't get the max but it's gonna be expensive. I like Collins I just don't know if ultimately he is worth that money...and maybe I should say more specifically worth that money to the Wolves. He is putting up some pretty impressive numbers.

[Hicks123 [enjin:6700838]]

Speaking of John Collins, I wonder if this front office would think about making a trade for him this season considering the Hawks now have their money all wrapped up in Danilo Gallinari, Clint Capela, Bogdan Bogdanovic, and soon to be maxed Trae Young. There were rumors last year that Atlanta didn't want to pay Collins...

Here is the question with Collins...what are you willing to pay him?

He's probably in the max contract conversation whether we like it or not. Maybe he'll end up getting a four-year, $80-million deal instead if the market just isn't there for him as a RFA. That alone probably takes us out of the trade market for him, but it's fun to think about.

The Wolves would likely be in the luxury tax next year, but then Ricky Rubio's deal comes off the books and Juan Hernangomez's option could be declined. They'd easily be under the luxury tax line by then.

I agree with what you said here. Jeremi Grant got 4 years 80 million...if the spending we saw this offseason holds up for when Collins is available...maybe he doesn't get the max but it's gonna be expensive. I like Collins I just don't know if ultimately he is worth that money...and maybe I should say more specifically worth that money to the Wolves. He is putting up some pretty impressive numbers.

As a few have hinted, I think we are kidding ourselves on Collins, as he is certainly approaching max type statistics. 58% FG, 40% 3's, 10+ reb, 1.5 blk, 1 stl. How many guys in NBA have those kind of numbers? And as a 23 year old? He is better than everyone but KAT on Wolves, and I am not sure it is close. Now that they wouldn't need Edwards, we have no assets that are anywhere close to making this kind of deal.

The guy for Atl that I believe is available is Capela. And we all know this type of player is not on the radar at the moment. Might change in season when we are getting out rebounded 2 to 1 every game. Who knows.

[Crazysauce]

Im not so sure about that as rumblings have it that atlanta doesnt want to pay him as much as he wants. He thinks hes a max guy and Atlanta doesnt think that. Capelas 18 million is much cheaper than the 25 or 28 collins wants. Add to that the fact they just signed Gallinari to a big deal and they may want to push him out to the 4 so that their young guys Reddish and Hunter can get some time at the 3. They may not want 65 to 70 million going towards forwards and centers . Its interesting to see what they could get for him considering you only get him this year then have to pay him. Seems like a guy that a max deal just seems too much for but at the end of the day someone is going to give it to him. Wonder what they get for him if they do deal him being he will need to get paid.

[Lipoli390]

I don't see a deal for Collins in the cards. It's clear that he Hawks are setting themselves up to contend in the Eastern Conference this upcoming season. Collins is clearly a player who will help them contend and I don't see them dealing him unless they get someone who would help them more than Collins. Obviously, there is no one on the Wolves who fits that bill.

As long as we're talking about John Collins, I'll note that the Clippers just released Justin Patton. You remember him - the guy Thibodeau drafted instead of John Collins or Anunoby. Oh well. Back to Collins, I'm sure Atlanta will see how Okongwu develops. His development certainly play a role in Atlanta's decision next offseason whether to re-sign Collins and how high they'll go in matching any RFA offers. But in the meantime, John Collins will help Trae Young, Gallo, Capella and Bogdanovic take the Hawks into the Eastern Conference playoffs.

[Wolvesfan21]

This biggest mistake in my view was not moving up for Luka. I might have been the only one pounding the table to do that though. If it took Butler and picks do it. None of the the top 3 spots that year were destination spots for star players either, especially a team like Sacramento who would be relevant again. If Thibs drafts Luka he is still here and looks like a genius to the world. Now he's in the worst coaching spot in the NBA and lucky to be there.

[Camden [enjin:6601484]]

This biggest mistake in my view was not moving up for Luka. I might have been the only one pounding the table to do that though. If it took Butler and picks do it. None of the the top 3 spots that year were destination spots for star players either, especially a team like Sacramento who would be relevant again. If Thibs drafts Luka he is still here and looks like a genius to the world. Now he's in the worst coaching spot in the NBA and lucky to be there.

We were never getting Luka. We've talked about this.