TRKO wrote:Why isn't Frank the Tank more highly regarded in the draft community. The guy has great range. Solid athleticism and rebounder. I don't think he will be a star, but I think he can be a solid starting PF.
I'd be all for us trading down for Frank the tank if we miss out on Towns, Okafor or Russell
Two reasons TRKO: 1) Age, and 2) Athleticism. Those are the two pillars of potential. Frank is both old and not very athletic, thus front offices will question how much upside he has left.
Of course, my retort to that is if you are already really good, why should that matter so much? Isn't potential fulfilled better than potential all by itself!?
So yeah, front offices tend to undervalue things like skill and basketball IQ, which is why the Spurs consistently find great value in the draft year after year.
Personally, I think Frank is pegged correctly by Draft Express at about #10. He's built like a 'tweener C/PF. The athleticism issue is a legit concern if he has to go out and guard face-up 4's or really big, strong Centers.
Offensively, I think he's as good as any college player in the country and he should be fine at the next level once he adjusts to the speed of the game. He should have very low bust potential, so whoever gets him will at least have a nice rotational big.
I don't think Frank has the speed to adjust to the pro game. His post moves are slow and dileberate. Great college player and great effort tonight, but I stay away from him in the first round personally.
Kaminsky took it to Okafor and here is the think about Kamisky. His skill is his meal ticket at the next level. Can he shoot the 3 at the next level? Can he handle the ball against big centers? If his skills translate his athletic ability isn't really a big time issue in that it won't hold him back. Can he defend? Idk can Okafor defend and rebound? This was just another game where you question that. I am being hard one Okafor and is a young kid but there are some legit concerns there.
Q12543 wrote:Two reasons TRKO: 1) Age, and 2) Athleticism. Those are the two pillars of potential. Frank is both old and not very athletic, thus front offices will question how much upside he has left.
Of course, my retort to that is if you are already really good, why should that matter so much? Isn't potential fulfilled better than potential all by itself!?
So yeah, front offices tend to undervalue things like skill and basketball IQ, which is why the Spurs consistently find great value in the draft year after year.
Personally, I think Frank is pegged correctly by Draft Express at about #10. He's built like a 'tweener C/PF. The athleticism issue is a legit concern if he has to go out and guard face-up 4's or really big, strong Centers.
Offensively, I think he's as good as any college player in the country and he should be fine at the next level once he adjusts to the speed of the game. He should have very low bust potential, so whoever gets him will at least have a nice rotational big.
Agreed Q. If you are good you are good. I'm sick of hearing about age all the time with the "older" players. A lot of good players play 3-4 years in college.
Everyone, especially players and coaches need to (should be allowed to) hold refs more responsible after games. I'm a better dead than red guy but man that's got to be a tough loss to take if you're a Wisconsin player. Two calls near the end, Winslow stepping out of bounds and Winslow touching the ball last before it went out of bounds, directly lead to 5 Blue Devil points. Those are cut and dry rules with no room for interpretation and need to be made correctly every single time. The fact the refs couldn't even make the correct call on the 2nd one even with the help of replay should be considered 100% unacceptable and that crew should never be allowed to ref a D1 game again.
Bo Ryan's a jackass for his comments last night, especially considering the two huge plays late that went Wisconsin's way against Kentucky.
The shotclock violation that went uncalled and resulted in two points.
The foul called on Harrison when he went straight up, very minimal contact. Not even remotely close to being a legit foul. Wisconsin got points from that as well.
Refs determined that game.
Wisconsin shouldn't have even been in the title game, but nonetheless, they lost because they gave up a 9-point lead to Grayson Allen off the bench.
