So What's Your Plan? The Offseason Roster Construction Thread

[FNG]

An SI writer suggests Jaden, TJ, Ju and multiple picks. I'm a "run it back" guy, but I think that roster would be co-favorites with OkC for a championship. Can you imagine how many wide open 3-point looks Naz and Mike/DiVo would get with defenses focusing on Ant and Giannis? I love the guys we would be giving up, but TC would have to make this deal.

[Q-is-here]

An SI writer suggests Jaden, TJ, Ju and multiple picks. I'm a "run it back" guy, but I think that roster would be co-favorites with OkC for a championship. Can you imagine how many wide open 3-point looks Naz and Mike/DiVo would get with defenses focusing on Ant and Giannis? I love the guys we would be giving up, but TC would have to make this deal.

So TJ instead of Dillingham in that hypothetical.

Regardless, there would be a couple names that would hurt to part with.

[FNG]

An SI writer suggests Jaden, TJ, Ju and multiple picks. I'm a "run it back" guy, but I think that roster would be co-favorites with OkC for a championship. Can you imagine how many wide open 3-point looks Naz and Mike/DiVo would get with defenses focusing on Ant and Giannis? I love the guys we would be giving up, but TC would have to make this deal.

So TJ instead of Dillingham in that hypothetical.

Regardless, there would be a couple names that would hurt to part with.

There certainly would be. But it's Giannis. Barring injury, we would have a 3-4 year window with Giannis/Ant/Rudy and some good pieces around them. TJ's aggressive performance against OkC probably makes him a more attractive return than Rob, but personally I would rather keep Rob...way more upside. TC would likely try to keep either 17 or 31, but I don't know if he would prevail.

[Coolbreeze44]

An SI writer suggests Jaden, TJ, Ju and multiple picks. I'm a "run it back" guy, but I think that roster would be co-favorites with OkC for a championship. Can you imagine how many wide open 3-point looks Naz and Mike/DiVo would get with defenses focusing on Ant and Giannis? I love the guys we would be giving up, but TC would have to make this deal.

So TJ instead of Dillingham in that hypothetical.

Regardless, there would be a couple names that would hurt to part with.

There certainly would be. But it's Giannis. Barring injury, we would have a 3-4 year window with Giannis/Ant/Rudy and some good pieces around them. TJ's aggressive performance against OkC probably makes him a more attractive return than Rob, but personally I would rather keep Rob...way more upside. TC would likely try to keep either 17 or 31, but I don't know if he would prevail.

There has to be a way without Jaden Involved. The reason we make the trade is to set us up for a championship, and Giannis, Ant, and Jaden would be crucial to that. Go back to my offer, along with 17 & 31 you would be giving up TSJ and Rob - essentially 4 first round picks. You would also be giving up Randle and Rudy to make the salaries work. If you had to give more than that we still have a couple assets that wouldn't necessarily have to include #3.

[Q-is-here]

So TJ instead of Dillingham in that hypothetical.

Regardless, there would be a couple names that would hurt to part with.

There certainly would be. But it's Giannis. Barring injury, we would have a 3-4 year window with Giannis/Ant/Rudy and some good pieces around them. TJ's aggressive performance against OkC probably makes him a more attractive return than Rob, but personally I would rather keep Rob...way more upside. TC would likely try to keep either 17 or 31, but I don't know if he would prevail.

There has to be a way without Jaden Involved. The reason we make the trade is to set us up for a championship, and Giannis, Ant, and Jaden would be crucial to that. Go back to my offer, along with 17 & 31 you would be giving up TSJ and Rob - essentially 4 first round picks. You would also be giving up Randle and Rudy to make the salaries work. If you had to give more than that we still have a couple assets that wouldn't necessarily have to include #3.

Wait, didn't you just say earlier in this thread that you were going to sit back and let Connelly do his thing and not get too hung up on individual players!?

If you ran the Bucks, you'd insist on Jaden or no deal (well, unless we gave up Ant!).

[FNG]

Cool, there's going to be a lot of competition for Giannis, and I have to believe they are going to demand at least one young proven starter in the deal. We're obviously not giving up Ant, so that leaves Jaden as the only option. I haven't seen any proposed deals that don't have him in there. TJ, Rob, and picks are fun to think about, but they're not going to get us Giannis.

[Coolbreeze44]

There certainly would be. But it's Giannis. Barring injury, we would have a 3-4 year window with Giannis/Ant/Rudy and some good pieces around them. TJ's aggressive performance against OkC probably makes him a more attractive return than Rob, but personally I would rather keep Rob...way more upside. TC would likely try to keep either 17 or 31, but I don't know if he would prevail.

There has to be a way without Jaden Involved. The reason we make the trade is to set us up for a championship, and Giannis, Ant, and Jaden would be crucial to that. Go back to my offer, along with 17 & 31 you would be giving up TSJ and Rob - essentially 4 first round picks. You would also be giving up Randle and Rudy to make the salaries work. If you had to give more than that we still have a couple assets that wouldn't necessarily have to include #3.

Wait, didn't you just say earlier in this thread that you were going to sit back and let Connelly do his thing and not get too hung up on individual players!?

If you ran the Bucks, you'd insist on Jaden or no deal (well, unless we gave up Ant!).

I trust TC to do what he needs to do to. But that doesn't mean I can't participate in these discussions, does it? I was sparked by George's comments and wanted to see what a potential deal could look like. No harm intended.

[Coolbreeze44]

Cool, there's going to be a lot of competition for Giannis, and I have to believe they are going to demand at least one young proven starter in the deal. We're obviously not giving up Ant, so that leaves Jaden as the only option. I haven't seen any proposed deals that don't have him in there. TJ, Rob, and picks are fun to think about, but they're not going to get us Giannis.

I get it FNG, that's why I wanted to throw it out there, to see what the consensus is. If Jaden is included, the Bucks are still going to want our young and future assets meaning #17, #31, and some combination of TSJ, Clark, and Rob.

[60WinTim]

There has to be a way without Jaden Involved. The reason we make the trade is to set us up for a championship, and Giannis, Ant, and Jaden would be crucial to that. Go back to my offer, along with 17 & 31 you would be giving up TSJ and Rob - essentially 4 first round picks. You would also be giving up Randle and Rudy to make the salaries work. If you had to give more than that we still have a couple assets that wouldn't necessarily have to include #3.

Wait, didn't you just say earlier in this thread that you were going to sit back and let Connelly do his thing and not get too hung up on individual players!?

If you ran the Bucks, you'd insist on Jaden or no deal (well, unless we gave up Ant!).

I trust TC to do what he needs to do to. But that doesn't mean I can't participate in these discussions, does it? I was sparked by George's comments and wanted to see what a potential deal could look like. No harm intended.

One flaw with including the picks is that the trade cannot take place until the start of the new fiscal year, well after the draft. They won't even know if Ju has picked up his player option or not at the draft.

[Lipoli390]

I love Giannis. He’s one of my three favorite non-Wolves players in the League along with Steph Curry and Jalen Brunson. But I can’t remember the last time a team pushed itself over the hump to win a first championship by trading for a star in his 30s. And as great as Giannis still is, I see his body breaking down with the way he plays as he heads towards his 31st birthday next December. He was an iron man in his first few seasons playing nearly every game but since then he’s missed a lot of games each season, He’s played more than 67 games in only one of his last six seasons. Other than two years ago when he played 73 games, he’s played between 61 and 67 games in the other five of those six seasons. And that’s all when he was in his mid to late 20s. As great as he is, you don’t swap a ton of assets for Giannis. Given the penchant of Wolves fans to obsess over player flaws, I can imagine complaints we’d see on message boards about his free throw shooting and lack of any perimeter scoring. I can also imagine the complaints about him missing 20 games, which has been typical for him the past six seasons.

I’m just not interested in chasing stars in their 30s with huge offloading of assets to get them. That’s not what OKC or Indiana did. That’s not what the Celtics did. That’s not what Golden State did during their dynasty years. That’s not how you build a championship team. The Thunder traded an older star (younger at the time than Giannis is now) to the Clippers for a very young SGA and the pick they used to select Jalen Williams. We know which team came out on top.