monsterpile wrote:Well that wasn't boring. Game 1 goes to OT. Javelle McGee has an absolutely terrific defensive possession defensively against Lebron and then a couple loses a fight against the rim after being wide open. JR is JR. Lebron was absolutely incredible. Some officiating will be talked about. I guess I'll come back for game 2.
I actually felt sorry for LeBron at the end of tonight's game. He fought and clawed to put the Cavs in a position to win with his 51 points, 8 boards and 8 assists. Then at the end of the game, George Hill misses his second free throw that would have given the Cavs a 1-point lead and JR rebounds the miss but dribbles away from the basket towards half court to preserve what he thought was a lead. What an idiot!! No way LeBron returns next season to play with that group. The Cavs needed to win this one and almost did. If they had, then we'd probably be looking at a 6 or 7 game series. But I now see the Warriors winning in 5. Too bad. I'd love to see an extended, competitive series.
History repeats itself...
"Steve Kerr compares J.R. Smith's blunder to Mavericks' Derek Harper dribbling out the clock in a tie game to force OT against Lakers in 1984 playoffs. Here's video:"
I mean Hill missed the FT and the Cavs got lucky bounce. JR Smith was one of the smallest guys on the floor Durant went for the rebound and it went long and JR gets it and cluelessly dribbles around. Maybe they don't get off a good shot or they miss it and it still goes to OT but man that was tough. It's worth mentioning Love had a pretty good game includinf some pretty worthwhile defensive possessions when he was being targeted down the stretch.
At the same time where are Lebron and Tye Lue to call a timeout as soon as JR secures the ball? When you get a second chance there call timeout and run a play. Boneheaded all around. JR is the same bonehead who gambled for the steal before the half and gave Steph a wide open 30 footer that he made. You just have to take the ball out of JR's hands in a situation like that with a timeout. Also all this fuss about the block call and it was the right call. LeBron slid under him. The whole point of replay is to get it right and they did. Cavs blew it and they are looking for a scapegoat.
monsterpile wrote:Well that wasn't boring. Game 1 goes to OT. Javelle McGee has an absolutely terrific defensive possession defensively against Lebron and then a couple loses a fight against the rim after being wide open. JR is JR. Lebron was absolutely incredible. Some officiating will be talked about. I guess I'll come back for game 2.
I actually felt sorry for LeBron at the end of tonight's game. He fought and clawed to put the Cavs in a position to win with his 51 points, 8 boards and 8 assists. Then at the end of the game, George Hill misses his second free throw that would have given the Cavs a 1-point lead and JR rebounds the miss but dribbles away from the basket towards half court to preserve what he thought was a lead. What an idiot!! No way LeBron returns next season to play with that group. The Cavs needed to win this one and almost did. If they had, then we'd probably be looking at a 6 or 7 game series. But I now see the Warriors winning in 5. Too bad. I'd love to see an extended, competitive series.
History repeats itself...
"Steve Kerr compares J.R. Smith's blunder to Mavericks' Derek Harper dribbling out the clock in a tie game to force OT against Lakers in 1984 playoffs. Here's video:"
I mean Hill missed the FT and the Cavs got lucky bounce. JR Smith was one of the smallest guys on the floor Durant went for the rebound and it went long and JR gets it and cluelessly dribbles around. Maybe they don't get off a good shot or they miss it and it still goes to OT but man that was tough. It's worth mentioning Love had a pretty good game includinf some pretty worthwhile defensive possessions when he was being targeted down the stretch.
At the same time where are Lebron and Tye Lue to call a timeout as soon as JR secures the ball? When you get a second chance there call timeout and run a play. Boneheaded all around. JR is the same bonehead who gambled for the steal before the half and gave Steph a wide open 30 footer that he made. You just have to take the ball out of JR's hands in a situation like that with a timeout. Also all this fuss about the block call and it was the right call. LeBron slid under him. The whole point of replay is to get it right and they did. Cavs blew it and they are looking for a scapegoat.
Yeah they certainly could have called a Timeout. On the other hand on those plays someone tends to be wide open because people are scrambling around. Like you said though JR is JR and is an easy target. Not sure the Cavs are lookingfor a scapegoat but others are. JR has a pretty good resume for the position. :)
As for the block/charge call I'm with you I think it was a block as he was still moving to the side and towards Durant. What was Durant supposed to do there? It wasn't like he was blindly wildly driving into the lane. Ultimately for me it was a close call it could have gone either way and I wouldn't have been that upset about it. I don't think the officiating deciddd the outcome so...yeah. Kinda weird ejection at the end of the game but I can see what the official thought was happening there.
"The whole point of replay is to get it right and they did."
Those particular replays are suppossed to only be triggered by the refs not being sure if the player was in the restricted area, LeBron was 2 feet away from it. Horrible decision by the refs.
BloopOracle wrote:"The whole point of replay is to get it right and they did."
Those particular replays are suppossed to only be triggered by the refs not being sure if the player was in the restricted area, LeBron was 2 feet away from it. Horrible decision by the refs.
There were two players in defensive position and Green's foot is basically on the restricted line. You don't know the angle the ref had. The right thing to do always is trigger a review if you are unsure so you can get it right. I find it ludicrous people are actually arguing that an incorrect call of any nature should have stuck because of semantics. Replay actually got it right in this case and people are bitching about the ability to make the correct call. Come on.
BloopOracle wrote:"The whole point of replay is to get it right and they did."
Those particular replays are suppossed to only be triggered by the refs not being sure if the player was in the restricted area, LeBron was 2 feet away from it. Horrible decision by the refs.
There were two players in defensive position and Green's foot is basically on the restricted line. You don't know the angle the ref had. The right thing to do always is trigger a review if you are unsure so you can get it right. I find it ludicrous people are actually arguing that an incorrect call of any nature should have stuck because of semantics. Replay actually got it right in this case and people are bitching about the ability to make the correct call. Come on.
Anyone with eyes could see the angle the ref had, the one who was looking at the restricted area called the charge while the ref near mid-court called it a blocking foul.
"The right thing to do always is trigger a review if you are unsure so you can get it right."
Please. The right thing to do is follow the rulebook and be consistent, especially with less than a minute left in a Finals game. I find it ludicrous people are actually arguing that the refs should be able to pick and choose how they want to interpret a clear rule. Refs got the rule wrong in this case and people are rightfully complaining while others like you bitch about people wanting consistency. Come on.
BloopOracle wrote:"The whole point of replay is to get it right and they did."
Those particular replays are suppossed to only be triggered by the refs not being sure if the player was in the restricted area, LeBron was 2 feet away from it. Horrible decision by the refs.
There were two players in defensive position and Green's foot is basically on the restricted line. You don't know the angle the ref had. The right thing to do always is trigger a review if you are unsure so you can get it right. I find it ludicrous people are actually arguing that an incorrect call of any nature should have stuck because of semantics. Replay actually got it right in this case and people are bitching about the ability to make the correct call. Come on.
Anyone with eyes could see the angle the ref had, the one who was looking at the restricted area called the charge while the ref near mid-court called it a blocking foul.
"The right thing to do always is trigger a review if you are unsure so you can get it right."
Please. The right thing to do is follow the rulebook and be consistent, especially with less than a minute left in a Finals game. I find it ludicrous people are actually arguing that the refs should be able to pick and choose how they want to interpret a clear rule. Refs got the rule wrong in this case and people are rightfully complaining while others like you bitch about people wanting consistency. Come on.
So it's better for the game that an incorrect call stand for consistency sake than to actually have the right call be made? Ok. That goes against everyone that bitches at the last 2 minute reports when refs get it wrong. I don't know how someone can want an incorrect call to stand and decide an NBA finals game. Guess no more bitching at the refs for bad calls from you. They have to stay consistent regardless if they've made the right or wrong call.
BloopOracle wrote:"The whole point of replay is to get it right and they did."
Those particular replays are suppossed to only be triggered by the refs not being sure if the player was in the restricted area, LeBron was 2 feet away from it. Horrible decision by the refs.
There were two players in defensive position and Green's foot is basically on the restricted line. You don't know the angle the ref had. The right thing to do always is trigger a review if you are unsure so you can get it right. I find it ludicrous people are actually arguing that an incorrect call of any nature should have stuck because of semantics. Replay actually got it right in this case and people are bitching about the ability to make the correct call. Come on.
Anyone with eyes could see the angle the ref had, the one who was looking at the restricted area called the charge while the ref near mid-court called it a blocking foul.
"The right thing to do always is trigger a review if you are unsure so you can get it right."
Please. The right thing to do is follow the rulebook and be consistent, especially with less than a minute left in a Finals game. I find it ludicrous people are actually arguing that the refs should be able to pick and choose how they want to interpret a clear rule. Refs got the rule wrong in this case and people are rightfully complaining while others like you bitch about people wanting consistency. Come on.
So it's better for the game that an incorrect call stand for consistency sake than to actually have the right call be made? Ok. That goes against everyone that bitches at the last 2 minute reports when refs get it wrong. I don't know how someone can want an incorrect call to stand and decide an NBA finals game. Guess no more bitching at the refs for bad calls from you. They have to stay consistent regardless if they've made the right or wrong call.
It's better to get the call right AND be consistent with rule interpretation, you know it doesn't have to be one or the other right? The sooner you realize that the sooner you'll spare us your misguided rants.
BloopOracle wrote:"The whole point of replay is to get it right and they did."
Those particular replays are suppossed to only be triggered by the refs not being sure if the player was in the restricted area, LeBron was 2 feet away from it. Horrible decision by the refs.
There were two players in defensive position and Green's foot is basically on the restricted line. You don't know the angle the ref had. The right thing to do always is trigger a review if you are unsure so you can get it right. I find it ludicrous people are actually arguing that an incorrect call of any nature should have stuck because of semantics. Replay actually got it right in this case and people are bitching about the ability to make the correct call. Come on.
Anyone with eyes could see the angle the ref had, the one who was looking at the restricted area called the charge while the ref near mid-court called it a blocking foul.
"The right thing to do always is trigger a review if you are unsure so you can get it right."
Please. The right thing to do is follow the rulebook and be consistent, especially with less than a minute left in a Finals game. I find it ludicrous people are actually arguing that the refs should be able to pick and choose how they want to interpret a clear rule. Refs got the rule wrong in this case and people are rightfully complaining while others like you bitch about people wanting consistency. Come on.
So it's better for the game that an incorrect call stand for consistency sake than to actually have the right call be made? Ok. That goes against everyone that bitches at the last 2 minute reports when refs get it wrong. I don't know how someone can want an incorrect call to stand and decide an NBA finals game. Guess no more bitching at the refs for bad calls from you. They have to stay consistent regardless if they've made the right or wrong call.
It's better to get the call right AND be consistent with rule interpretation, you know it doesn't have to be one or the other right? The sooner you realize that the sooner you'll spare us your misguided rants.
In this case it literally does have to be one or the other. It happened. There's no undoing it so there is literally no way for it to be both. Either they shouldn't have been able to review the play thus the incorrect call is upheld or you overlook the replay trigger and just be happy that the right call was made. In general you are right they should get both right, but they didn't so it is one or the other.
BloopOracle wrote:"The whole point of replay is to get it right and they did."
Those particular replays are suppossed to only be triggered by the refs not being sure if the player was in the restricted area, LeBron was 2 feet away from it. Horrible decision by the refs.
There were two players in defensive position and Green's foot is basically on the restricted line. You don't know the angle the ref had. The right thing to do always is trigger a review if you are unsure so you can get it right. I find it ludicrous people are actually arguing that an incorrect call of any nature should have stuck because of semantics. Replay actually got it right in this case and people are bitching about the ability to make the correct call. Come on.
Anyone with eyes could see the angle the ref had, the one who was looking at the restricted area called the charge while the ref near mid-court called it a blocking foul.
"The right thing to do always is trigger a review if you are unsure so you can get it right."
Please. The right thing to do is follow the rulebook and be consistent, especially with less than a minute left in a Finals game. I find it ludicrous people are actually arguing that the refs should be able to pick and choose how they want to interpret a clear rule. Refs got the rule wrong in this case and people are rightfully complaining while others like you bitch about people wanting consistency. Come on.
So it's better for the game that an incorrect call stand for consistency sake than to actually have the right call be made? Ok. That goes against everyone that bitches at the last 2 minute reports when refs get it wrong. I don't know how someone can want an incorrect call to stand and decide an NBA finals game. Guess no more bitching at the refs for bad calls from you. They have to stay consistent regardless if they've made the right or wrong call.
It's better to get the call right AND be consistent with rule interpretation, you know it doesn't have to be one or the other right? The sooner you realize that the sooner you'll spare us your misguided rants.
In this case it literally does have to be one or the other. It happened. There's no undoing it so there is literally no way for it to be both. Either they shouldn't have been able to review the play thus the incorrect call is upheld or you overlook the replay trigger and just be happy that the right call was made. In general you are right they should get both right, but they didn't so it is one or the other.
2 things are happening right now regarding how lebron is being perceived.
1. Lebron is THE best basketball player on the planet right now. No one, not durant, curry or a healthy leonard is on his level.
2. Lebron has won the public over and basically justified himself when/if he choose to leave cleveland this off season. He carried this team to the finals and played at an unbelievable level all throhuout the playoffs. Arguably one the best playoff performance we have seen. Almost willed the cavs to a game 1 finals win and a win last night would have been a game changer and possibly their only chance of winning the series. But his teammates blew it with heir blunders. You now feel sorry for lebron. He has now become the underdog going against 4 all stars and playing with jr smith.
