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Re: Around the NBA (non-Wolves talk)

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2018 10:08 am
by AbeVigodaLive
BloopOracle wrote:
khans2k5 wrote:
BloopOracle wrote:
khans2k5 wrote:
BloopOracle wrote:"The whole point of replay is to get it right and they did."

Those particular replays are suppossed to only be triggered by the refs not being sure if the player was in the restricted area, LeBron was 2 feet away from it. Horrible decision by the refs.


There were two players in defensive position and Green's foot is basically on the restricted line. You don't know the angle the ref had. The right thing to do always is trigger a review if you are unsure so you can get it right. I find it ludicrous people are actually arguing that an incorrect call of any nature should have stuck because of semantics. Replay actually got it right in this case and people are bitching about the ability to make the correct call. Come on.


Anyone with eyes could see the angle the ref had, the one who was looking at the restricted area called the charge while the ref near mid-court called it a blocking foul.

"The right thing to do always is trigger a review if you are unsure so you can get it right."

Please. The right thing to do is follow the rulebook and be consistent, especially with less than a minute left in a Finals game. I find it ludicrous people are actually arguing that the refs should be able to pick and choose how they want to interpret a clear rule. Refs got the rule wrong in this case and people are rightfully complaining while others like you bitch about people wanting consistency. Come on.


So it's better for the game that an incorrect call stand for consistency sake than to actually have the right call be made? Ok. That goes against everyone that bitches at the last 2 minute reports when refs get it wrong. I don't know how someone can want an incorrect call to stand and decide an NBA finals game. Guess no more bitching at the refs for bad calls from you. They have to stay consistent regardless if they've made the right or wrong call.


It's better to get the call right AND be consistent with rule interpretation, you know it doesn't have to be one or the other right? The sooner you realize that the sooner you'll spare us your misguided rants.




One group bitches that it was a bad call... (charge).
Or the other group bitches that it was a bad process... (review).

Either way... the horse was out of the barn on that one and the officials were gonna get ripped.

Re: Around the NBA (non-Wolves talk)

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2018 10:10 am
by AbeVigodaLive
As for Steph Curry.

I heart him, too.

Re: Around the NBA (non-Wolves talk)

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 10:35 pm
by Monster
Tonight it was Durant. Credit to the Cavs to give the Warriors a pretty good game. Love with some pretty good D in this game and Durant just hit big shots sometime on actually good D by Love. Not sure if the Cavs will win game 4 or not.

Re: Around the NBA (non-Wolves talk)

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 11:13 pm
by thedoper
I'm happy with our roster in 2021 if Wiggins and KAT are still on the team, productive and happy. But it seems like all of the talent is going to be concentrated on three or 4 teams moving forward. It's like the 80s again. I don't know why we keep wishing for parity in the NBA it will never happen. A few owners used to dictate dynasties, now it's a few players. The quality of competition suffers and yet it has never been more popular.

Re: Around the NBA (non-Wolves talk)

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 7:05 am
by Q12543 [enjin:6621299]
monsterpile wrote:Tonight it was Durant. Credit to the Cavs to give the Warriors a pretty good game. Love with some pretty good D in this game and Durant just hit big shots sometime on actually good D by Love. Not sure if the Cavs will win game 4 or not.


Yeah, Durant makes them unbeatable over the course of a series. When all else fails, just get it to him and it's a bucket. If he didn't play with these other elite scorers throughout his career (Westbrook, Curry, etc.), he could easily average 40+ a game without breaking much of a sweat. He's one of the great pure shooters and scorers to ever play the game.

Re: Around the NBA (non-Wolves talk)

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 11:55 am
by Q12543 [enjin:6621299]
...by the way, Durant's combine numbers athletically were horrible. Couldn't even get 185 lbs off his chest in the bench press. Couldn't jump worth a damn. Slow. Didn't matter!

Re: Around the NBA (non-Wolves talk)

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 12:06 pm
by AbeVigodaLive
Q12543 wrote:...by the way, Durant's combine numbers athletically were horrible. Couldn't even get 185 lbs off his chest in the bench press. Couldn't jump worth a damn. Slow. Didn't matter!



I do appreciate that the NBA isn't as dedicated to those combine stats as a sport like football seems to be.

And some measurements did matter. For example, his 6'10" - 7'1" height and how many shots he put in the bucket...

Re: Around the NBA (non-Wolves talk)

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 12:48 pm
by Monster
AbeVigodaLive wrote:
Q12543 wrote:...by the way, Durant's combine numbers athletically were horrible. Couldn't even get 185 lbs off his chest in the bench press. Couldn't jump worth a damn. Slow. Didn't matter!



I do appreciate that the NBA isn't as dedicated to those combine stats as a sport like football seems to be.

And some measurements did matter. For example, his 6'10" - 7'1" height and how many shots he put in the bucket...


Bench press is dumb most of us know that espcially if you have a gigantic wingspan. Like Abe said it doesn't matter if you don't jump high if you are already inches taller than a bunch of guys. He was basically a center in length and it's quite possible (even likely) he has grown since then. If Svi was 6'8" without shoes and a 7'1" wingspan...that would get some people interested...

Re: Around the NBA (non-Wolves talk)

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 6:14 pm
by Lipoli390
It's skills plus either athleticism or length (overhead reach & wingspan). You don't need both athleticism and length. You just need one of those coupled with elite skills. Durant has freakish length (mainly long arms) -- the length of a PF or C -- coupled with the shooting a ball-handling skills of a top SG. He's a great shooter.

Of all the athletic attributes tested at the combine, I consider sprint speed the most important, but it only matters if the ball-handling skills are there to make the player fast with the ball. But even the sprint time doesn't necessarily reflect a player's quickness. And quickness with the ball is critical to NBA success -- especially among guards.

Nevertheless, there's no substitute for performance on the courts as the basis for predicting a college player's NBA potential.

Re: Around the NBA (non-Wolves talk)

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 10:51 am
by AbeVigodaLive
lipoli390 wrote:It's skills plus either athleticism or length (overhead reach & wingspan). You don't need both athleticism and length. You just need one of those coupled with elite skills. Durant has freakish length (mainly long arms) -- the length of a PF or C -- coupled with the shooting a ball-handling skills of a top SG. He's a great shooter.

Of all the athletic attributes tested at the combine, I consider sprint speed the most important, but it only matters if the ball-handling skills are there to make the player fast with the ball. But even the sprint time doesn't necessarily reflect a player's quickness. And quickness with the ball is critical to NBA success -- especially among guards.

Nevertheless, there's no substitute for performance on the courts as the basis for predicting a college player's NBA potential.



Durant has freakishly long arms... and height.

I think it's generally accepted that he's 7'0."