Draft prospects - Who do we want?

Any And All Things T-Wolves Related
User avatar
Monster
Posts: 24000
Joined: Sun Jul 07, 2013 12:00 am

Re: Draft prospects - Who do we want?

Post by Monster »

khans2k5 wrote:
monsterpile wrote:If Bazz can stay healthy he could become a starter in this league and put up points and guess what Bazz fits the new NBA trend. Shots close to the rim get to the line and take 3's. Oh yeah and transition buckets. Plus the guys is a rebounding machine. It's just the eye test but he looked a lot better on D this past season than his rookie year (I know that wasn't hard to do) and he seems to have improved enough there I have hope for him. He is a young guy so I'll hold out hope he can get and stay healthy. I'll say this for him he played through that ankle injury for weeks and played well.

I see Bazz as a guy that could be a heck of a starter going before and and it's really not crazy. His likeliness to realize his potential is the 2nd best out of anyone on the team right now only behind Wiggins. I'm really not excited about moving him for an unknown. Teams called about him last summer according to Flip and Flip seems to really like him so I don't think he is going anywhere. If Flip isn't trading Martin than I don't think he is going to be moving Bazz.

Here is the thing the Wolves seem to have enough moveable assets to move up to get a first rounder without giving up a guy like Bazz or Rubio or whatever. Every year we fall in love with picks. If we need to trade up to say #19 or whatever to get a guy we like more than #31 great. Thats the type of moves the good teams have done the past few years. You can get good players outside of the top 10. Flip will do his homework and wil know what guys he values I do hope he can move up and get a 1st rounder and find another worthwhile player.


Where is Bazz gonna start? He has this guy named Wiggins in front of him in the rotation and we have 2 SG's who are both probably good enough to start as well. Lavine's ball handling and shot creation off the dribble make him a better option to start next to Wiggins and Ricky in my opinion. I don't see any way he starts outside of injuries so I'm using him as one of our best trade assets to get back high enough in the draft to get a starting quality player moving forward because Bazz is and will be stuck on the bench behind Wiggins.


I like Lavine but sorry I don't have him written in my future starting lineup yet. He has a long ways to go before I feel confident in just handing him the job. I am just being realistic about him. There is certainly a chance he doesn't turn out to be the starter at SG. Bazz could be the starter at SF with Wiggins as SG. The wolves have assets to find a Player to slot in at PFS without giving up a guy like Bazz. Make a move for a mid round pick and get the right guy. Lots of other good teams do it why can't we?
User avatar
khans2k5 [enjin:6608728]
Posts: 6414
Joined: Tue Jul 09, 2013 12:00 am

Re: Draft prospects - Who do we want?

Post by khans2k5 [enjin:6608728] »

monsterpile wrote:
khans2k5 wrote:
monsterpile wrote:If Bazz can stay healthy he could become a starter in this league and put up points and guess what Bazz fits the new NBA trend. Shots close to the rim get to the line and take 3's. Oh yeah and transition buckets. Plus the guys is a rebounding machine. It's just the eye test but he looked a lot better on D this past season than his rookie year (I know that wasn't hard to do) and he seems to have improved enough there I have hope for him. He is a young guy so I'll hold out hope he can get and stay healthy. I'll say this for him he played through that ankle injury for weeks and played well.

I see Bazz as a guy that could be a heck of a starter going before and and it's really not crazy. His likeliness to realize his potential is the 2nd best out of anyone on the team right now only behind Wiggins. I'm really not excited about moving him for an unknown. Teams called about him last summer according to Flip and Flip seems to really like him so I don't think he is going anywhere. If Flip isn't trading Martin than I don't think he is going to be moving Bazz.

Here is the thing the Wolves seem to have enough moveable assets to move up to get a first rounder without giving up a guy like Bazz or Rubio or whatever. Every year we fall in love with picks. If we need to trade up to say #19 or whatever to get a guy we like more than #31 great. Thats the type of moves the good teams have done the past few years. You can get good players outside of the top 10. Flip will do his homework and wil know what guys he values I do hope he can move up and get a 1st rounder and find another worthwhile player.


Where is Bazz gonna start? He has this guy named Wiggins in front of him in the rotation and we have 2 SG's who are both probably good enough to start as well. Lavine's ball handling and shot creation off the dribble make him a better option to start next to Wiggins and Ricky in my opinion. I don't see any way he starts outside of injuries so I'm using him as one of our best trade assets to get back high enough in the draft to get a starting quality player moving forward because Bazz is and will be stuck on the bench behind Wiggins.


I like Lavine but sorry I don't have him written in my future starting lineup yet. He has a long ways to go before I feel confident in just handing him the job. I am just being realistic about him. There is certainly a chance he doesn't turn out to be the starter at SG. Bazz could be the starter at SF with Wiggins as SG. The wolves have assets to find a Player to slot in at PFS without giving up a guy like Bazz. Make a move for a mid round pick and get the right guy. Lots of other good teams do it why can't we?


I don't see how Bazz has shown enough for a starting spot but Lavine hasn't. Lavine can create his own offense, he's a better playmaker and their defense is a wash.
User avatar
WildWolf2813
Posts: 3465
Joined: Mon Jul 15, 2013 12:00 am

Re: Draft prospects - Who do we want?

Post by WildWolf2813 »

khans2k5 wrote:
monsterpile wrote:If Bazz can stay healthy he could become a starter in this league and put up points and guess what Bazz fits the new NBA trend. Shots close to the rim get to the line and take 3's. Oh yeah and transition buckets. Plus the guys is a rebounding machine. It's just the eye test but he looked a lot better on D this past season than his rookie year (I know that wasn't hard to do) and he seems to have improved enough there I have hope for him. He is a young guy so I'll hold out hope he can get and stay healthy. I'll say this for him he played through that ankle injury for weeks and played well.

I see Bazz as a guy that could be a heck of a starter going before and and it's really not crazy. His likeliness to realize his potential is the 2nd best out of anyone on the team right now only behind Wiggins. I'm really not excited about moving him for an unknown. Teams called about him last summer according to Flip and Flip seems to really like him so I don't think he is going anywhere. If Flip isn't trading Martin than I don't think he is going to be moving Bazz.

Here is the thing the Wolves seem to have enough moveable assets to move up to get a first rounder without giving up a guy like Bazz or Rubio or whatever. Every year we fall in love with picks. If we need to trade up to say #19 or whatever to get a guy we like more than #31 great. Thats the type of moves the good teams have done the past few years. You can get good players outside of the top 10. Flip will do his homework and wil know what guys he values I do hope he can move up and get a 1st rounder and find another worthwhile player.


Where is Bazz gonna start? He has this guy named Wiggins in front of him in the rotation and we have 2 SG's who are both probably good enough to start as well. Lavine's ball handling and shot creation off the dribble make him a better option to start next to Wiggins and Ricky in my opinion. I don't see any way he starts outside of injuries so I'm using him as one of our best trade assets to get back high enough in the draft to get a starting quality player moving forward because Bazz is and will be stuck on the bench behind Wiggins.


Zack can start when the team shows they don't get their ass beat on a routine basis when he enters a game
User avatar
Coolbreeze44
Posts: 13192
Joined: Mon Jul 08, 2013 12:00 am

Re: Draft prospects - Who do we want?

Post by Coolbreeze44 »

WildWolf2813 wrote:
khans2k5 wrote:
monsterpile wrote:If Bazz can stay healthy he could become a starter in this league and put up points and guess what Bazz fits the new NBA trend. Shots close to the rim get to the line and take 3's. Oh yeah and transition buckets. Plus the guys is a rebounding machine. It's just the eye test but he looked a lot better on D this past season than his rookie year (I know that wasn't hard to do) and he seems to have improved enough there I have hope for him. He is a young guy so I'll hold out hope he can get and stay healthy. I'll say this for him he played through that ankle injury for weeks and played well.

I see Bazz as a guy that could be a heck of a starter going before and and it's really not crazy. His likeliness to realize his potential is the 2nd best out of anyone on the team right now only behind Wiggins. I'm really not excited about moving him for an unknown. Teams called about him last summer according to Flip and Flip seems to really like him so I don't think he is going anywhere. If Flip isn't trading Martin than I don't think he is going to be moving Bazz.

Here is the thing the Wolves seem to have enough moveable assets to move up to get a first rounder without giving up a guy like Bazz or Rubio or whatever. Every year we fall in love with picks. If we need to trade up to say #19 or whatever to get a guy we like more than #31 great. Thats the type of moves the good teams have done the past few years. You can get good players outside of the top 10. Flip will do his homework and wil know what guys he values I do hope he can move up and get a 1st rounder and find another worthwhile player.


Where is Bazz gonna start? He has this guy named Wiggins in front of him in the rotation and we have 2 SG's who are both probably good enough to start as well. Lavine's ball handling and shot creation off the dribble make him a better option to start next to Wiggins and Ricky in my opinion. I don't see any way he starts outside of injuries so I'm using him as one of our best trade assets to get back high enough in the draft to get a starting quality player moving forward because Bazz is and will be stuck on the bench behind Wiggins.


Zack can start when the team shows they don't get their ass beat on a routine basis when he enters a game

That should be around the beginning of November.
User avatar
Porckchop
Posts: 2512
Joined: Tue Jul 16, 2013 12:00 am

Re: Draft prospects - Who do we want?

Post by Porckchop »

CoolBreeze44 wrote:
WildWolf2813 wrote:
khans2k5 wrote:
monsterpile wrote:If Bazz can stay healthy he could become a starter in this league and put up points and guess what Bazz fits the new NBA trend. Shots close to the rim get to the line and take 3's. Oh yeah and transition buckets. Plus the guys is a rebounding machine. It's just the eye test but he looked a lot better on D this past season than his rookie year (I know that wasn't hard to do) and he seems to have improved enough there I have hope for him. He is a young guy so I'll hold out hope he can get and stay healthy. I'll say this for him he played through that ankle injury for weeks and played well.

I see Bazz as a guy that could be a heck of a starter going before and and it's really not crazy. His likeliness to realize his potential is the 2nd best out of anyone on the team right now only behind Wiggins. I'm really not excited about moving him for an unknown. Teams called about him last summer according to Flip and Flip seems to really like him so I don't think he is going anywhere. If Flip isn't trading Martin than I don't think he is going to be moving Bazz.

Here is the thing the Wolves seem to have enough moveable assets to move up to get a first rounder without giving up a guy like Bazz or Rubio or whatever. Every year we fall in love with picks. If we need to trade up to say #19 or whatever to get a guy we like more than #31 great. Thats the type of moves the good teams have done the past few years. You can get good players outside of the top 10. Flip will do his homework and wil know what guys he values I do hope he can move up and get a 1st rounder and find another worthwhile player.


Where is Bazz gonna start? He has this guy named Wiggins in front of him in the rotation and we have 2 SG's who are both probably good enough to start as well. Lavine's ball handling and shot creation off the dribble make him a better option to start next to Wiggins and Ricky in my opinion. I don't see any way he starts outside of injuries so I'm using him as one of our best trade assets to get back high enough in the draft to get a starting quality player moving forward because Bazz is and will be stuck on the bench behind Wiggins.


Zack can start when the team shows they don't get their ass beat on a routine basis when he enters a game

That should be around the beginning of November.


So do they roll out a starting roster of none until then? If all players are treated equally I presume.
User avatar
WildWolf2813
Posts: 3465
Joined: Mon Jul 15, 2013 12:00 am

Re: Draft prospects - Who do we want?

Post by WildWolf2813 »

PorkChop wrote:
CoolBreeze44 wrote:
WildWolf2813 wrote:
khans2k5 wrote:
monsterpile wrote:If Bazz can stay healthy he could become a starter in this league and put up points and guess what Bazz fits the new NBA trend. Shots close to the rim get to the line and take 3's. Oh yeah and transition buckets. Plus the guys is a rebounding machine. It's just the eye test but he looked a lot better on D this past season than his rookie year (I know that wasn't hard to do) and he seems to have improved enough there I have hope for him. He is a young guy so I'll hold out hope he can get and stay healthy. I'll say this for him he played through that ankle injury for weeks and played well.

I see Bazz as a guy that could be a heck of a starter going before and and it's really not crazy. His likeliness to realize his potential is the 2nd best out of anyone on the team right now only behind Wiggins. I'm really not excited about moving him for an unknown. Teams called about him last summer according to Flip and Flip seems to really like him so I don't think he is going anywhere. If Flip isn't trading Martin than I don't think he is going to be moving Bazz.

Here is the thing the Wolves seem to have enough moveable assets to move up to get a first rounder without giving up a guy like Bazz or Rubio or whatever. Every year we fall in love with picks. If we need to trade up to say #19 or whatever to get a guy we like more than #31 great. Thats the type of moves the good teams have done the past few years. You can get good players outside of the top 10. Flip will do his homework and wil know what guys he values I do hope he can move up and get a 1st rounder and find another worthwhile player.


Where is Bazz gonna start? He has this guy named Wiggins in front of him in the rotation and we have 2 SG's who are both probably good enough to start as well. Lavine's ball handling and shot creation off the dribble make him a better option to start next to Wiggins and Ricky in my opinion. I don't see any way he starts outside of injuries so I'm using him as one of our best trade assets to get back high enough in the draft to get a starting quality player moving forward because Bazz is and will be stuck on the bench behind Wiggins.


Zack can start when the team shows they don't get their ass beat on a routine basis when he enters a game

That should be around the beginning of November.


So do they roll out a starting roster of none until then? If all players are treated equally I presume.



Wiggins at SG, Bazz at the 3. Sounds simple enough to me.
User avatar
Monster
Posts: 24000
Joined: Sun Jul 07, 2013 12:00 am

Re: Draft prospects - Who do we want?

Post by Monster »

khans2k5 wrote:
monsterpile wrote:
khans2k5 wrote:
monsterpile wrote:If Bazz can stay healthy he could become a starter in this league and put up points and guess what Bazz fits the new NBA trend. Shots close to the rim get to the line and take 3's. Oh yeah and transition buckets. Plus the guys is a rebounding machine. It's just the eye test but he looked a lot better on D this past season than his rookie year (I know that wasn't hard to do) and he seems to have improved enough there I have hope for him. He is a young guy so I'll hold out hope he can get and stay healthy. I'll say this for him he played through that ankle injury for weeks and played well.

I see Bazz as a guy that could be a heck of a starter going before and and it's really not crazy. His likeliness to realize his potential is the 2nd best out of anyone on the team right now only behind Wiggins. I'm really not excited about moving him for an unknown. Teams called about him last summer according to Flip and Flip seems to really like him so I don't think he is going anywhere. If Flip isn't trading Martin than I don't think he is going to be moving Bazz.

Here is the thing the Wolves seem to have enough moveable assets to move up to get a first rounder without giving up a guy like Bazz or Rubio or whatever. Every year we fall in love with picks. If we need to trade up to say #19 or whatever to get a guy we like more than #31 great. Thats the type of moves the good teams have done the past few years. You can get good players outside of the top 10. Flip will do his homework and wil know what guys he values I do hope he can move up and get a 1st rounder and find another worthwhile player.


Where is Bazz gonna start? He has this guy named Wiggins in front of him in the rotation and we have 2 SG's who are both probably good enough to start as well. Lavine's ball handling and shot creation off the dribble make him a better option to start next to Wiggins and Ricky in my opinion. I don't see any way he starts outside of injuries so I'm using him as one of our best trade assets to get back high enough in the draft to get a starting quality player moving forward because Bazz is and will be stuck on the bench behind Wiggins.


I like Lavine but sorry I don't have him written in my future starting lineup yet. He has a long ways to go before I feel confident in just handing him the job. I am just being realistic about him. There is certainly a chance he doesn't turn out to be the starter at SG. Bazz could be the starter at SF with Wiggins as SG. The wolves have assets to find a Player to slot in at PFS without giving up a guy like Bazz. Make a move for a mid round pick and get the right guy. Lots of other good teams do it why can't we?


I don't see how Bazz has shown enough for a starting spot but Lavine hasn't. Lavine can create his own offense, he's a better playmaker and their defense is a wash.


Maybe because Bazz put up really good scoring numbers on very good shooting percentages plus he gives you good rebounding as well and plays his butt off. Lavine has shown his potential has some legit flashes but why can't Bazz get better while Lavine seems to be written in as the future starter.
User avatar
Monster
Posts: 24000
Joined: Sun Jul 07, 2013 12:00 am

Re: Draft prospects - Who do we want?

Post by Monster »

It's still early but right now DX has us taking Towns at 1 then Jordan Mickey at 31 and eurostash C Nikola Milutinov at 36. Would anyone feel pretty good about all those picks? Mickey seems like a nice enough prospect and grabbing a young center that's already been reasonably productive in Europe sounds good to me. I know a lot of us are interested in tradingn up farther in the draft but just curious how people feel about what could happen if we stayed put.
User avatar
longstrangetrip [enjin:6600564]
Posts: 9432
Joined: Tue Jul 09, 2013 12:00 am

Re: Draft prospects - Who do we want?

Post by longstrangetrip [enjin:6600564] »

monsterpile wrote:It's still early but right now DX has us taking Towns at 1 then Jordan Mickey at 31 and eurostash C Nikola Milutinov at 36. Would anyone feel pretty good about all those picks? Mickey seems like a nice enough prospect and grabbing a young center that's already been reasonably productive in Europe sounds good to me. I know a lot of us are interested in tradingn up farther in the draft but just curious how people feel about what could happen if we stayed put.


I wouldn't have a problem with that draft, but I would prefer that Flip find a backup PG at 31. Deion Wright could be available there, and I think he would be ready to play some minutes at PG right away. If Flip preferred to go with the home run, George de Paula is almost certain to be there at 31, and he could be a really good PG in a few years, although he is liable to struggle for at least a year.
User avatar
Camden [enjin:6601484]
Posts: 18065
Joined: Tue Jul 09, 2013 12:00 am

Re: Draft prospects - Who do we want?

Post by Camden [enjin:6601484] »

Towns at No. 1 is all I need.

[If I base my selection on DX's mock, I'd rather have De Paula at 36 and stash him. I could be good with the Mickey pick.]
Post Reply