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khans2k5 wrote:

TeamRicky wrote:The Jazz agreed to terms with unrestricted free agent Joe Johnson on a two-year, $22 million deal.

That would have been a good deal for us. 12/4/4 with 37-40% 3pt shooting and the ability to play both wing spots and handle the ball a bit. I also think even though it hasn't been tried much if at all to date I would bet he could hold his own as a small ball 4 at 6'7 240 like Pierce.

Agree that it would have been a good signing for us. Wish we would have thought of that. The jazz make a very good signing there.

worldK wrote:

khans2k5 wrote:

TeamRicky wrote:The Jazz agreed to terms with unrestricted free agent Joe Johnson on a two-year, $22 million deal.

That would have been a good deal for us. 12/4/4 with 37-40% 3pt shooting and the ability to play both wing spots and handle the ball a bit. I also think even though it hasn't been tried much if at all to date I would bet he could hold his own as a small ball 4 at 6'7 240 like Pierce.

Agree that it would have been a good signing for us. Wish we would have thought of that. The jazz make a very good signing there.

ZZZzzzzzzzz you lose.

worldK wrote:

khans2k5 wrote:

TeamRicky wrote:The Jazz agreed to terms with unrestricted free agent Joe Johnson on a two-year, $22 million deal.

That would have been a good deal for us. 12/4/4 with 37-40% 3pt shooting and the ability to play both wing spots and handle the ball a bit. I also think even though it hasn't been tried much if at all to date I would bet he could hold his own as a small ball 4 at 6'7 240 like Pierce.

Agree that it would have been a good signing for us. Wish we would have thought of that. The jazz make a very good signing there.

Are you guys high? Why? That's our most stacked position right now for an iso chucker?

SameOldNudityDrew wrote:

worldK wrote:

khans2k5 wrote:

TeamRicky wrote:The Jazz agreed to terms with unrestricted free agent Joe Johnson on a two-year, $22 million deal.

That would have been a good deal for us. 12/4/4 with 37-40% 3pt shooting and the ability to play both wing spots and handle the ball a bit. I also think even though it hasn't been tried much if at all to date I would bet he could hold his own as a small ball 4 at 6'7 240 like Pierce.

Agree that it would have been a good signing for us. Wish we would have thought of that. The jazz make a very good signing there.

Are you guys high? Why? That's our most stacked position right now for an iso chucker?

Most Stacked? Wiggy and Bazz? LOL yeah thats lights out.. Timberwolves have no STACKED positon sorry.

Squishypoo wrote:

SameOldNudityDrew wrote:

worldK wrote:

khans2k5 wrote:

TeamRicky wrote:The Jazz agreed to terms with unrestricted free agent Joe Johnson on a two-year, $22 million deal.

That would have been a good deal for us. 12/4/4 with 37-40% 3pt shooting and the ability to play both wing spots and handle the ball a bit. I also think even though it hasn't been tried much if at all to date I would bet he could hold his own as a small ball 4 at 6'7 240 like Pierce.

Agree that it would have been a good signing for us. Wish we would have thought of that. The jazz make a very good signing there.

Are you guys high? Why? That's our most stacked position right now for an iso chucker?

Most Stacked? Wiggy and Bazz? LOL yeah thats lights out.. Timberwolves have no STACKED positon sorry.

JJ plays both wing spots, as you mentioned, so he'd also be eating up minutes we need for LaVine and Dunn. I'm not paying 10 million per year to force myself to take away minutes from those 4 (Wiggins, LaVine, Dunn, and even Bazz) to give to JJ. If you want to sign a guy like Troy Daniels to a short, cheap contract as a 3 point specialist when players get desperate for a team and all this cap space gets eaten up, fine. They won't need many minutes or complain when they don't get them.

SameOldNudityDrew wrote:

Squishypoo wrote:

SameOldNudityDrew wrote:

worldK wrote:

khans2k5 wrote:

TeamRicky wrote:The Jazz agreed to terms with unrestricted free agent Joe Johnson on a two-year, $22 million deal.

That would have been a good deal for us. 12/4/4 with 37-40% 3pt shooting and the ability to play both wing spots and handle the ball a bit. I also think even though it hasn't been tried much if at all to date I would bet he could hold his own as a small ball 4 at 6'7 240 like Pierce.

Agree that it would have been a good signing for us. Wish we would have thought of that. The jazz make a very good signing there.

Are you guys high? Why? That's our most stacked position right now for an iso chucker?

Most Stacked? Wiggy and Bazz? LOL yeah thats lights out.. Timberwolves have no STACKED positon sorry.

JJ plays both wing spots, as you mentioned, so he'd also be eating up minutes we need for LaVine and Dunn. I'm not paying 10 million per year to force myself to take away minutes from those 4 (Wiggins, LaVine, Dunn, and even Bazz) to give to JJ. If you want to sign a guy like Troy Daniels to a short, cheap contract as a 3 point specialist when players get desperate for a team and all this cap space gets eaten up, fine. They won't need many minutes or complain when they don't get them.

JJ would only take minutes away from Bazz, Hell he might of got some burn at pf. So you dont want the team to sign a SG? Were we only have lavine atm?

Squishypoo wrote:

SameOldNudityDrew wrote:

Squishypoo wrote:

SameOldNudityDrew wrote:

worldK wrote:

khans2k5 wrote:

TeamRicky wrote:The Jazz agreed to terms with unrestricted free agent Joe Johnson on a two-year, $22 million deal.

That would have been a good deal for us. 12/4/4 with 37-40% 3pt shooting and the ability to play both wing spots and handle the ball a bit. I also think even though it hasn't been tried much if at all to date I would bet he could hold his own as a small ball 4 at 6'7 240 like Pierce.

Agree that it would have been a good signing for us. Wish we would have thought of that. The jazz make a very good signing there.

Are you guys high? Why? That's our most stacked position right now for an iso chucker?

Most Stacked? Wiggy and Bazz? LOL yeah thats lights out.. Timberwolves have no STACKED positon sorry.

JJ plays both wing spots, as you mentioned, so he'd also be eating up minutes we need for LaVine and Dunn. I'm not paying 10 million per year to force myself to take away minutes from those 4 (Wiggins, LaVine, Dunn, and even Bazz) to give to JJ. If you want to sign a guy like Troy Daniels to a short, cheap contract as a 3 point specialist when players get desperate for a team and all this cap space gets eaten up, fine. They won't need many minutes or complain when they don't get them.

JJ would only take minutes away from Bazz, Hell he might of got some burn at pf. So you dont want the team to sign a SG? Were we only have lavine atm?

LaVine, Dunn, and Wiggins can all play the 2.
Wiggins, Bazz and even Bjelica can play the 3.

The development of all those guys, especially Wiggins, LaVine, and Dunn is way higher on the priority list. Because of Dunn's arrival and ability to play the 2 (and the need for him to get minutes there because of Rubio at the point), Wiggins is going to need to get almost all of his 36 minutes per game from the 3, which is going to leave just 12-14 minutes at that position, which is even less than Bazz got last year. Thus, anybody we pick up who needs more minutes than that needs to be able to play the bulk of his minutes at the 4.

Side note: if anybody doubts whether Dunn can play the 2, notice that his wingspan is actually bigger than JJ's. If we actually had signed JJ and played him at the 4, we'd have a PF with a shorter wingspan than our backup PG/SG combo.

I'd like the idea of getting a guy like Deng who has more length to legitimately play the 3 and 4, a guy who can defend well and support our young players' development, but JJ isn't that guy. I'm fine with getting a cheap 3 point specialist wing to fill out the bench, but JJ is a ball-stopping iso player who is going to want 30 minutes and 10-12 shots per game, and at 35 years old is going to be an increasing defensive liability. No thanks.

SameOldNudityDrew wrote:

worldK wrote:

khans2k5 wrote:

TeamRicky wrote:The Jazz agreed to terms with unrestricted free agent Joe Johnson on a two-year, $22 million deal.

That would have been a good deal for us. 12/4/4 with 37-40% 3pt shooting and the ability to play both wing spots and handle the ball a bit. I also think even though it hasn't been tried much if at all to date I would bet he could hold his own as a small ball 4 at 6'7 240 like Pierce.

Agree that it would have been a good signing for us. Wish we would have thought of that. The jazz make a very good signing there.

Are you guys high? Why? That's our most stacked position right now for an iso chucker?

Been hanging with Mayo..

You described Johnson perfectly with "iso chucker". He may shoot decently at the 3pt line, but the guy needs 10-15 shots a night to be effective. His FG% is not impressive. If we bring a vet in we need them to play good defense, move the ball, rebound, and hit open shots when they are there. We don't need someone who needs the ball in their hands.

And there goes Deng. 4yrs/72mil with the Lakers

I would have considered 18mil per for 2 seasons, but 4 is too much.

TheFuture wrote:And there goes Deng. 4yrs/72mil with the Lakers

I would have considered 18mil per for 2 seasons, but 4 is too much.

Ouch...my first choice in free agency. But I agree 100%...4 years is too much. This signals to me that the Wolves completely understand the implications of a 4-year deal this summer to signing their Big 3...they simply can't offer a 4-year deal this summer if they expect our youngsters to reach their potential and hope to keep them all.

I'm disappointed and encouraged at the same time...encouraged, because this is another indication that this management team gets it. Now, who becomes my first choice to come in as our starting SF on a deal no longer than 3 years? Any ideas for me?