lipoli390 wrote:The best stretch for the Wolves was late 3rd quarter when the lineup was Tyus, Gorgui, Wiggins, Rose and Taj. Great energy and effort from Gorgui tonight. He was solid. Tyus played well on both ends. Loved the effort from Rose, but his shooting.... Yuck. Obviously, Teague played a great game tonight. I loved how aggressive he was and how he increased the pace of the offense. If he plays like this every game, he'll earn his $19 million.
KAT was horrible. Jimmy was OK late. You can tell he's not in game shape. But there's no way I'd blame this loss on Jimmy. Wiggins played well overall with a great hustle play stealing the ball during that stretch in the late 3rd or early 4th. But then we saw bad Andrew just let DeRozan go by in the 4th, looking lethargic, not moving his feet with any urgency or even putting his hands up.
I was worried about Wolves players being distracted by the whole Jimmy drama. But the only Wolves player who looked distracted was KAT. I'm a big fan of KAT. Nevertheless, I'll say unequivocally that he needs to get his head out of his ass and toughen up - a lot!!
Lip, Wig played 37 minutes and spent most of the night chasing Derozan around. I think the play you're referencing is when Derozan beat him off the dribble and got to the rim. I would ask how do you not give any help on that? He's one of the best offensive players in the game. Funny you didn't mention Butler giving up the last 6 points to Derozan.
I stand corrected, Cool. That play bugged me so much I lost perspective. And yes, someone should have come over to help on that play. If Wiggins plays like this every game, I don't think we'll hear many calls from Wolves fans to trade him.
Jimmy was a step slow, but that was expected. I thought he and wiggs were effortlessly switching on defense. Night and day when those 2 are out there compared to when one has to get subbed out. Props to Rose for fighting, but he just isnt suited to cover SG's and size. And that isnt his fault. Thats on Thibs. I dont see what Okogie couldnt give us 1 or 2 minutes on the floor trying to cover DD.
Our bigs. Its been the same problem every year. They rarely save points, almost none. DD did get a step on Butler a few times, but every time there wasnt a big coming from the weakside to help. We saw that The Spurs big crash the glass and on most of the offensive boards, we I dont think I saw our C even on the screen.
Our late game 4th Q offense is so predictable. Give it to Butler and let him go to work. If nothing, let teague do his things. If not those 2, let Rose go hog wild.
Does thibs really need Wiggs and KAT on the floor in the 4th?
There were some good things tonight, but the same problems we had for years were still there.
lipoli390 wrote:The best stretch for the Wolves was late 3rd quarter when the lineup was Tyus, Gorgui, Wiggins, Rose and Taj. Great energy and effort from Gorgui tonight. He was solid. Tyus played well on both ends. Loved the effort from Rose, but his shooting.... Yuck. Obviously, Teague played a great game tonight. I loved how aggressive he was and how he increased the pace of the offense. If he plays like this every game, he'll earn his $19 million.
KAT was horrible. Jimmy was OK late. You can tell he's not in game shape. But there's no way I'd blame this loss on Jimmy. Wiggins played well overall with a great hustle play stealing the ball during that stretch in the late 3rd or early 4th. But then we saw bad Andrew just let DeRozan go by in the 4th, looking lethargic, not moving his feet with any urgency or even putting his hands up.
I was worried about Wolves players being distracted by the whole Jimmy drama. But the only Wolves player who looked distracted was KAT. I'm a big fan of KAT. Nevertheless, I'll say unequivocally that he needs to get his head out of his ass and toughen up - a lot!!
Lip, Wig playhed 37 minutes and spent most of the night chasing Derozan around. I think the play you're referencing is when Derozan beat him off the dribble and got to the rim. I would ask how do you not give any help on that? He's one of the best offensive players in the game. Funny you didn't mention Butler giving up the last 6 points to Derozan.
I stand corrected, Cool. That play bugged me so much I lost perspective. And yes, someone should have come over to help on that play. If Wiggins plays like this every game, I don't think we'll hear many calls from Wolves fans to trade him.
I understand, it was frustrating to see a winnable game slip away. Wig was pretty good, but one reason was Butler didn't play as much with him. Those two do not know how to use each other to the teams benefit. And Butler always takes over in the 4th and Wig seems happy to defer. We've seen Wig play good before, but he never can find consistency night to night,
I have seen some fans on twitter saying the Wolves lost a game to a trash injury riddled Spurs team...spurs still have Derozen Aldridge and Gay is still a good player plus it's the damn spurs (Gasol is still good) who made the freaking playoffs last year without Leonard. That team is still kinda good even if it's lacking some guards...Teague was owning those guys.
thedoper wrote:Derozan schools Mr D Jimmy at the end. Good thing he tries when he's getting worked. What a stiff.
My biggest disappointment is that Butler didn't get hurt. Maybe next game?
Does this make you feel good? Wishing a professional athlete gets hurt because why? He put his teammates in the limelight for not working as hard as he does? Because he's an asshole?
I don't know how the rest of the board feels, but you wishing an injury on a player is just a bitch move. Just one of those things in sports you don't do or even hope for, especially if it's one of your team's players.
If you're as close to the game as you say you are -- a girl's AAU basketball coach or whatever it is you do -- you'd know how distasteful that is.
Sincerely,
Someone who got injured playing the game they love and never made it back to the performance level they used to be at.
Missed the game... but I thought this was the best place to add this shocking statistical nugget...
After one game, the Wolves are last in the league in 3 point attempts.
Right where they belong... after all they finished #30 last year.
#30 in 2017
#29 in 2016
#30 in 2015
I get that not everybody likes more three pointers. But good or bad... it's a staple in today's NBA for every team... except the Wolves. Are they simply so revolutionary, that they're creating a new, clever, strategic counter to everybody else that's going to be the next wave for the NBA?
AbeVigodaLive wrote:Missed the game... but I thought this was the best place to add this shocking statistical nugget...
After one game, the Wolves are last in the league in 3 point attempts.
Right where they belong... after all they finished #30 last year.
#30 in 2017
#29 in 2016
#30 in 2015
I get that not everybody likes more three pointers. But good or bad... it's a staple in today's NBA for every team... except the Wolves. Are they simply so revolutionary, that they're creating a new, clever, strategic counter to everybody else that's going to be the next wave for the NBA?
Yeah, it's getting comical at this point. Thibs has had three years as both coach and GM to fix this problem and he hasn't done it. Reason # 204 to fire him.
It seems like Thibs is so dependent on pick and roll and isolation basketball that he MUST have shot creators and dribble drive guys to create any type of offense for his system. Thus we see the likes of Crawford and Rose - inefficient gunners - go out and try to carry the load. Meanwhile, the best three point shooter on the team most likely - James Nunnally - stays on the bench.
AbeVigodaLive wrote:Missed the game... but I thought this was the best place to add this shocking statistical nugget...
After one game, the Wolves are last in the league in 3 point attempts.
Right where they belong... after all they finished #30 last year.
#30 in 2017
#29 in 2016
#30 in 2015
I get that not everybody likes more three pointers. But good or bad... it's a staple in today's NBA for every team... except the Wolves. Are they simply so revolutionary, that they're creating a new, clever, strategic counter to everybody else that's going to be the next wave for the NBA?
Yeah, it's getting comical at this point. Thibs has had three years as both coach and GM to fix this problem and he hasn't done it. Reason # 204 to fire him.
It seems like Thibs is so dependent on pick and roll and isolation basketball that he MUST have shot creators and dribble drive guys to create any type of offense for his system. Thus we see the likes of Crawford and Rose - inefficient gunners - go out and try to carry the load. Meanwhile, the best three point shooter on the team most likely - James Nunnally - stays on the bench.
Thats just his offense. Pressure on the rim! Pressure on the rim!
All the 3 pointers we took and made last night, i think only 1 was by design. The wiggs/kat pnp for the kat 3.
Other times, it's basically iso into a 3 when you can't get into the paint, take a 3 at the end of the clock, or when there is nothing else. Combine that with hesitant shooters and we have the thibs offense. Its no wonder that a guy like tolliver cant get a 3 off. Kat and wiggins (to a lesser extent) are the only guys willing to take 3's.
