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kekgeek1 wrote:

Jester1534 wrote:

sjm34 wrote:

crazysauce wrote:Oh and this guy who broke the news of Lebron back to Cleveland is saying its done deal as well. Cavs deal been submitted.

https://twitter.com/tspence26

Here is a little tid bit from Rube chat on Tspence

http://72.32.131.210/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=279082&sid=a904c84bf3875f2f14e830d7bb57885e

Too funny lol

The greatest Troll Job of all time

Man that's fucking brutal lol. It certainly made it worse when ESPN was reporting Lebron contacted Love late this week.

lipoli390 wrote:

TeamRicky wrote:Am I the only one here that doesn't want to see GRIII traded. I get that we might have too many SFs but I"d trade Brewer or Shabazz before GRIII. I also think GRIII could play either SG or SF and could in time be a pretty valuable team member. I love his unselfish attitude, his athleticism and his pedigree. I don't know how high his ceiling is but nbadraft.net mentioned Trevor Ariza as a comparison.

It has to be GRIII because he has no salary and Cleveland doesn't have the salaries to match realistically if Brewer or even Shabazz is added to the deal. And I don't see Flip trading Shabazz under any circumstances.

If they included Haywood & we bought him out could the Cavs resign him before the season started? I recall a period of time where a team can't resign a guy like that, but I don't recall how long the wait is. That's the only way I see it working if it includes Shved or Shabazz. If Shabazz is in it, the Wolves would probably ask for 1 more young asset too. Plenty of options here especially if they can find a 3rd team.

Wiggins, Waiters, Bennett and a first rounder. I'd personally rather have Thompson coming back to us instead of Bennett, but with him sharing the same agent as LeBron and being a front office/team favorite, I could see them really trying to keep TT as their big off the bench who can play with both Love and Varejao.

I do believe Flip has Wiggins and Waiters already on the table. Now they're just hashing out the last bit. Flip's probably pushing for Thompson since he's going to contribute from the day one. Griffin's likely telling him no.

TeamRicky wrote:

lipoli390 wrote:

TeamRicky wrote:Am I the only one here that doesn't want to see GRIII traded. I get that we might have too many SFs but I"d trade Brewer or Shabazz before GRIII. I also think GRIII could play either SG or SF and could in time be a pretty valuable team member. I love his unselfish attitude, his athleticism and his pedigree. I don't know how high his ceiling is but nbadraft.net mentioned Trevor Ariza as a comparison.

It has to be GRIII because he has no salary and Cleveland doesn't have the salaries to match realistically if Brewer or even Shabazz is added to the deal. And I don't see Flip trading Shabazz under any circumstances.

I understand GRIII's salary is better to make the deal happen which sux. I would think if we take on Wiggins, one of Brewer, Muhammad or GR3 will go and its likely GR3, but I'm hoping a third team gets involved that would want Brewer or Muhammad or we keep all 3.

As people know I was very excited to get GR3 and I would be disappointed to see him included as well. I understand why he would be included but that doesn't make me happy about it. Lol It seems like he is a guy you might want to hold onto if you are rebuilding with youth and Flip clearly liked him with his board ranking of a first round pick and all. So GR3 is a legit asset the Wolves are giving up in the trade. Will giving him up in the trade really matter? Oh probably not the odds are he won't be that valuable but I'd like to see him stick around but we have so many wings already and the Cavs trade would at a minimum add 1 more so one way or another someone has to go. I won't be shocked that Flip has some deals lined up to move one guy already if he gets what he wants from either the Cavs or GS.

Did anyone else see that Waiter supposedly said on Twitter he doesn't want to come off the bench? He seems to be the most polarizing player that could be included in the trade. I wish I knew more about these guys but when I watched Cavs games the last couple years Kyrie was the only young guy that stands out in my memory.

monsterpile wrote:Did anyone else see that Waiter supposedly said on Twitter he doesn't want to come off the bench? He seems to be the most polarizing player that could be included in the trade. I wish I knew more about these guys but when I watched Cavs games the last couple years Kyrie was the only young guy that stands out in my memory.

Yes, and he's complained about not getting enough touches-allegedly there's a rift between him and some teammates including Kyrie. His efficiency is pretty bad. Poor shooter and even worse free throw shooter and doesn't play much defense. I really hope he's not part of the trade.

To facilitate matching salary in the trade, wouldn't it be an option for Cleveland to sign Wiggins and then we "officially" consummate the trade in 30 days. I'd like the trade better if we could hold onto GR3 and not have to take on Waiters. Love for Wiggins and either Bennett or TT and Cleveland's first and they can throw in Felix and/or Heywood if they want.

A Love/Bazz for Wiggins/Waiters/Bennett/Haywood/Felix/Dellavedova trade works salary wise. I'm not sure with the additions of Miller and James Jones how much they would want Bazz, but I wouldn't give up GR3 if I'm Flip. In Flip's eyes he got a first round talent for a second round price. Those are the kinds of value guys you need to keep because they could end up like a Parsons who we passed on who was the leagues best value for a couple years. Also, I think Flip would be fine trading Bazz. He never really came off as liking the Bazz pick and really seemed to just take him because he was BPA at that spot in the draft. Based on style of play and athletic potential, I view GR3 as a better building piece than Bazz and he's going to be cheaper.

I would honestly try to get Philly involved in a deal.

MIN gets: Thad Young, Bennett, Wiggins, Waiters, Dellavedova expiring

CLE gets: Love, Wroten

PHI gets: JJ and LRMAM exprirings, Felix, Haywood, Bazz, First round pick from Cleveland

I'd be fine getting no picks in that deal. We get previous top 4 picks in the last 3 drafts so they are all on rookie deals. We get Thad Young who is a starter at the 4 and would be yet another athletic guy to put next to Ricky.

Cleveland gets their big 3 and they get a big guard to give them some backcourt depth at both guard spots on a rookie deal.

Philly gets even worse for tanking purposes which they clearly still want to do given they drafted 2 guys in which both might not play a game for them this year. They also get Bazz and a first in next years draft to add to their pool of talent. Somebody's gotta score on that team and I think Bazz fits that kind of team. They also flip 2 years of Thad into 1 year of JJ and LRMAM and the first round pick so they have cap space to work with next summer.

MIN: Wiggins (signed; wait 30 days), Waiters, Bennett, Haywood, Felix, 2015 MIA 1st, 2015 MEM 1st

CLE: Love, Brewer

This works salary-wise. Think it has to be broken into two trades, though, since Haywood can't be involved in a trade with other players. I forgot about that, but read it earlier.

PS (khans): Said it before and I'll say it again. Thad Young has a player option next year for $9.7M. Why wouldn't he opt out and go for the larger, bigger money contract? So Philly would be flipping an asset on a potentially expiring deal for two expirings and a late 1st? Doesn't make sense for them, in my opinion. They could find a better deal for him elsewhere.

This AM on In The Zone callers stating they prefer Thompson, as he is proven How soon would we have to pay Thompson (assume a max). Thompson isn't going to work for us unless we max him.

Is there anything to the three way deal with Boston/LA/Minny where we get Randle, Olynik and one year of Nash? I like that deal