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Re: Individual Stats Tracker 2025-26 Season

Posted: Fri May 01, 2026 10:35 am
by kekgeek
rapsuperstar31 wrote: Fri May 01, 2026 8:43 am Timberwolves are the 1st Minnesota men‘s team in 41 years to advance past the 1st round in 3 consecutive seasons (1983-85 North Stars). The only other men’s team that’s ever done it: 1949-55 Minneapolis Lakers (7 seasons). The 2011-17 Lynx are the recent champs, also 7 seasons in a row

[Gleeman] Timberwolves now have more playoff wins in the last three seasons (22) than they had in the previous 34 seasons combined (21).
Completely understand the frustration of this season (I was frustrated also) but sort of silly of us to complain so much after every loss this season. I don’t know if this core will get us a championship but man what a fun ride it has been

Re: Individual Stats Tracker 2025-26 Season

Posted: Thu May 07, 2026 3:19 pm
by rapsuperstar31
Jace frederick
@JaceFrederick
19 times this season, Jaden McDaniels has played fewer than 30 minutes (inc. missed games) against teams who finished the season w/ winning records

The Timberwolves are 4-15 in those games

Re: Individual Stats Tracker 2025-26 Season

Posted: Sun May 10, 2026 9:52 am
by Q-is-here
Updated playoff stats among the guys that have played more than 100 minutes:

Top 3 Wolves in PER (PER uses the box score exclusively so volume stats like scoring matter):
1. Ayo - 19.5
2. Ant - 15.8
3. Jaden - 13.9

Bottom 3 Wolves in PER:
1. Bones - 9.7
2. Julius - 12.2
3. Conley - 12.3

Top 3 Wolves in Win Shares per 48 minutes (balanced metric that looks at volume stats and efficiency):
1. Ayo - .189
2. Conley - .127
3. Rudy - .106

Bottom 3 Wolves in Win Shares per 48 minutes:
1. Bones - .019
2. Julius - .021
3. Ant - .061

Top 3 Wolves in Net Rating (Points per 100 possessions while on the floor minus opponent points per 100 possessions):
1. Shannon +.8
2. Naz +.6
3. Conley (.9)

Bottom 3 Wolves in Net Rating
:
1. Ant (8.9)
2. Bones (4.7)
3. Rudy (4.3)

Top 3 Wolves in Net On/Off Rating (Net Rating difference of team while player is on vs. off the floor):
1. Naz +9.4
2. Shannon (.6)
3. Conley (.7)

Bottom 3 Wolves in Net On/Off Rating:
1. Ant (16.7)
2. Randle (8.9)
3. Bones (7.3)

Re: Individual Stats Tracker 2025-26 Season

Posted: Sun May 10, 2026 10:07 am
by Q-is-here
A few thoughts:

- The most glaring issue is that Playoff Ant has yet to arrive and Julius is back to his pre-2025 playoff reputation. Those are supposed to be two of our best players! We can't possibly come back and beat the Spurs without these two guys playing better, although the fact Ant could go 40 minutes the other night and snag all those rebounds means he's getting better (??).

- This is the first playoffs where Naz has a positive Net Rating. However, if you just look at his raw box score/"do shit" stats, he's his normal less-than-regular season self. Still, his Net Rating has gotten better every year in the playoffs: '21-22 (19.4), '23-24 (2.9), '24-25 (.3), '25-26 +.6. That's a good sign that he's finally around "neutral", although in these playoffs neutral is pretty good considering it includes that Game 2 drubbing by the Spurs.

- Shannon leading the team in Net Rating if you exclude the guys that have played less than 100 minutes. DDV blows everyone away otherwise! Still, that's a very good sign for a guy that was terrible in this stat during the regular season.

- Rudy not looking so great considering where he stacked up in past playoff runs. His age and having to guard Jokic and Wemby is starting to take a toll. Sitting during all of the non-Jokic minutes certainly isn't going to help his Net Rating and On/Off stats.

- Ayo the most effective T-wolf in terms of raw production and efficient basketball despite the calf issue. Knowing that he isn't just a regular season pretender that melts in the playoffs is very encouraging. I still think he's our starting PG next season.

Re: Individual Stats Tracker 2025-26 Season

Posted: Sun May 10, 2026 10:43 am
by FNG
Thanks for taking the time to do this, Q...I'm sure we all have mixed emotions reviewing this. Yes, I'm sure Donte would blow everyone away in the 2-way stats...so impressive we're having a decent postseason without him.

But the Ant/Ju stuff highlights the bizarre nature of this team...can we really consider ourselves a championship contender when our "stars" don't perform like true contenders' stars? We can choose to use the injury excuse for Ant, but he's not even on the injury list for the second consecutive game. And unfortunately he ranked near the bottom of the team in deep analytics during the regular season too while he was healthy. It ain't the knee. guys. If you were to compare Ant's numbers in the categories you document...both for the playoffs and the regular season...it would be easy to see that two teams likely to meet in the finals have a true star that stirs their drink and we don't. He is so offensively gifted, dynamic and charismatic, it's easy to bury our head in the sand and say Ant is okay. But just like the ball, the numbers don't lie.

The silver lining? We have Finchy and his coaching staff and a terrific supporting cast behind Ant...they are collectively so good we have been able to be competitive in this postseason without Donte and with not enough at all from Ant. And while Ant took a big step back on defense this season, he made some positive progress in his offensive game as he seems to do every offseason and I also think in his maturity. The rest of our roster and coaching staff are so good we don't need Ant to be SGA or Wemby. But we need his deep analytic numbers to be closer to theirs than they are to Bones Hyland's. Ant is both the current thing holding us back from being a true contender, and the solution. I'm not giving up on him...yet.

Re: Individual Stats Tracker 2025-26 Season

Posted: Sun May 10, 2026 10:47 am
by rapsuperstar31
FNG wrote: Sun May 10, 2026 10:43 am Thanks for taking the time to do this, Q...I'm sure we all have mixed emotions reviewing this. Yes, I'm sure Donte would blow everyone away in the 2-way stats...so impressive we're having a decent postseason without him.

But the Ant/Ju stuff highlights the bizarre nature of this team...can we really consider ourselves a championship contender when our "stars" don't perform like true contenders' stars? We can choose to use the injury excuse for Ant, but he's not even on the injury list for the second consecutive game. And unfortunately he ranked near the bottom of the team in deep analytics during the regular season too while he was healthy. It ain't the knee. guys. If you were to compare Ant's numbers in the categories you document...both for the playoffs and the regular season...it would be easy to see that two teams likely to meet in the finals have a true star that stirs their drink and we don't. He is so offensively gifted, dynamic and charismatic, it's easy to bury our head in the sand and say Ant is okay. But just like the ball, the numbers don't lie.

The silver lining? We have Finchy and his coaching staff and a terrific supporting cast behind Ant...they are collectively so good we have been able to be competitive in this postseason without Donte and with not enough at all from Ant. And while Ant took a big step back on defense this season, he made some positive progress in his offensive game as he seems to do every offseason and I also think in his maturity. The rest of our roster and coaching staff are so good we don't need Ant to be SGA or Wemby. But we need his deep analytic numbers to be closer to theirs than they are to Bones Hyland's. Ant is both the current thing holding us back from being a true contender, and the solution. I'm not giving up on him...yet.
If you don't think Ant is injured you are blind. He's not on the injury list, because he is playing. He is giving you everything he has, this is not regular Ant. We've seen regular playoff Ant, and he is one of the best playoff performers in the world.

Re: Individual Stats Tracker 2025-26 Season

Posted: Sun May 10, 2026 11:10 am
by FNG
rapsuperstar31 wrote: Sun May 10, 2026 10:47 am
FNG wrote: Sun May 10, 2026 10:43 am Thanks for taking the time to do this, Q...I'm sure we all have mixed emotions reviewing this. Yes, I'm sure Donte would blow everyone away in the 2-way stats...so impressive we're having a decent postseason without him.

But the Ant/Ju stuff highlights the bizarre nature of this team...can we really consider ourselves a championship contender when our "stars" don't perform like true contenders' stars? We can choose to use the injury excuse for Ant, but he's not even on the injury list for the second consecutive game. And unfortunately he ranked near the bottom of the team in deep analytics during the regular season too while he was healthy. It ain't the knee. guys. If you were to compare Ant's numbers in the categories you document...both for the playoffs and the regular season...it would be easy to see that two teams likely to meet in the finals have a true star that stirs their drink and we don't. He is so offensively gifted, dynamic and charismatic, it's easy to bury our head in the sand and say Ant is okay. But just like the ball, the numbers don't lie.

The silver lining? We have Finchy and his coaching staff and a terrific supporting cast behind Ant...they are collectively so good we have been able to be competitive in this postseason without Donte and with not enough at all from Ant. And while Ant took a big step back on defense this season, he made some positive progress in his offensive game as he seems to do every offseason and I also think in his maturity. The rest of our roster and coaching staff are so good we don't need Ant to be SGA or Wemby. But we need his deep analytic numbers to be closer to theirs than they are to Bones Hyland's. Ant is both the current thing holding us back from being a true contender, and the solution. I'm not giving up on him...yet.
If you don't think Ant is injured you are blind. He's not on the injury list, because he is playing. He is giving you everything he has, this is not regular Ant. We've seen regular playoff Ant, and he is one of the best playoff performers in the world.
Rap, players (including Ayo and Ant) regularly play even though they are listed as questionable...the fact that you suit up doesn't mean you're off the injury list. You're not allowed to mess with the injury list...if Silver thinks Ant is injured and he's not on the list, Fnchy is facing a big fine. And when you look at some of the athleticism he has shown on a couple blocks, I'm not seeing an injured guy. And as I said above, ultimately we have to look at the overall value the analytics tell us he is providing...he ranks about as well in the playoffs as he did all season. One of Ant superpowers is his insane ability to bounce back from injuries that would be sidelining a normal human...I think he has done it again, and that Finchy is not going to be fined for not including him on the injury list. But we need more from him than we have gotten all season...play off ball and work to get some catch and shoot opportunities, hustle and be smart on defense, and hit your treys. Do that and we have a good chance of tying up this series.

Re: Individual Stats Tracker 2025-26 Season

Posted: Sun May 10, 2026 11:47 am
by Monster
FNG wrote: Sun May 10, 2026 11:10 am
rapsuperstar31 wrote: Sun May 10, 2026 10:47 am
FNG wrote: Sun May 10, 2026 10:43 am Thanks for taking the time to do this, Q...I'm sure we all have mixed emotions reviewing this. Yes, I'm sure Donte would blow everyone away in the 2-way stats...so impressive we're having a decent postseason without him.

But the Ant/Ju stuff highlights the bizarre nature of this team...can we really consider ourselves a championship contender when our "stars" don't perform like true contenders' stars? We can choose to use the injury excuse for Ant, but he's not even on the injury list for the second consecutive game. And unfortunately he ranked near the bottom of the team in deep analytics during the regular season too while he was healthy. It ain't the knee. guys. If you were to compare Ant's numbers in the categories you document...both for the playoffs and the regular season...it would be easy to see that two teams likely to meet in the finals have a true star that stirs their drink and we don't. He is so offensively gifted, dynamic and charismatic, it's easy to bury our head in the sand and say Ant is okay. But just like the ball, the numbers don't lie.

The silver lining? We have Finchy and his coaching staff and a terrific supporting cast behind Ant...they are collectively so good we have been able to be competitive in this postseason without Donte and with not enough at all from Ant. And while Ant took a big step back on defense this season, he made some positive progress in his offensive game as he seems to do every offseason and I also think in his maturity. The rest of our roster and coaching staff are so good we don't need Ant to be SGA or Wemby. But we need his deep analytic numbers to be closer to theirs than they are to Bones Hyland's. Ant is both the current thing holding us back from being a true contender, and the solution. I'm not giving up on him...yet.
If you don't think Ant is injured you are blind. He's not on the injury list, because he is playing. He is giving you everything he has, this is not regular Ant. We've seen regular playoff Ant, and he is one of the best playoff performers in the world.
Rap, players (including Ayo and Ant) regularly play even though they are listed as questionable...the fact that you suit up doesn't mean you're off the injury list. You're not allowed to mess with the injury list...if Silver thinks Ant is injured and he's not on the list, Fnchy is facing a big fine. And when you look at some of the athleticism he has shown on a couple blocks, I'm not seeing an injured guy. And as I said above, ultimately we have to look at the overall value the analytics tell us he is providing...he ranks about as well in the playoffs as he did all season. One of Ant superpowers is his insane ability to bounce back from injuries that would be sidelining a normal human...I think he has done it again, and that Finchy is not going to be fined for not including him on the injury list. But we need more from him than we have gotten all season...play off ball and work to get some catch and shoot opportunities, hustle and be smart on defense, and hit your treys. Do that and we have a good chance of tying up this series.
If I grabbed my knees as many times as Edwards does in a game during my office job my boss would be concerned about my well being. Edwards hasn't been remotely healthy for weeks and is in worse shape now than going into the playoffs. This has kept him from the opportunity to take another even small step like he did in the regular season were he was the most efficient of his regular season career at over 61% true shooting percentage. Nobody is denying Edwards has his issues and flaws which you have well laid out but saying he is healthy and not factoring that in his current play is an odd choice.

Re: Individual Stats Tracker 2025-26 Season

Posted: Sun May 10, 2026 12:22 pm
by AussieWolf3
FNG wrote: Sun May 10, 2026 10:43 am Thanks for taking the time to do this, Q...I'm sure we all have mixed emotions reviewing this. Yes, I'm sure Donte would blow everyone away in the 2-way stats...so impressive we're having a decent postseason without him.

But the Ant/Ju stuff highlights the bizarre nature of this team...can we really consider ourselves a championship contender when our "stars" don't perform like true contenders' stars? We can choose to use the injury excuse for Ant, but he's not even on the injury list for the second consecutive game. And unfortunately he ranked near the bottom of the team in deep analytics during the regular season too while he was healthy. It ain't the knee. guys. If you were to compare Ant's numbers in the categories you document...both for the playoffs and the regular season...it would be easy to see that two teams likely to meet in the finals have a true star that stirs their drink and we don't. He is so offensively gifted, dynamic and charismatic, it's easy to bury our head in the sand and say Ant is okay. But just like the ball, the numbers don't lie.

The silver lining? We have Finchy and his coaching staff and a terrific supporting cast behind Ant...they are collectively so good we have been able to be competitive in this postseason without Donte and with not enough at all from Ant. And while Ant took a big step back on defense this season, he made some positive progress in his offensive game as he seems to do every offseason and I also think in his maturity. The rest of our roster and coaching staff are so good we don't need Ant to be SGA or Wemby. But we need his deep analytic numbers to be closer to theirs than they are to Bones Hyland's. Ant is both the current thing holding us back from being a true contender, and the solution. I'm not giving up on him...yet.
I'm sorry to ask, but how much thinking do you need "analytics" to do for you?

He has played in 7 games, a meaningless sample size for any mathematical equations to provide useful analysis.

Jaden's Net rating this PS is -3.9 and his net on/off is -6. Should I conclude that he actually hasn't been the most important player thus far through 9 games? That would be ridiculous to do, because I've actually watched the games

Re: Individual Stats Tracker 2025-26 Season

Posted: Mon May 11, 2026 8:26 am
by Q-is-here
I'm not going to update the stats again after one additional playoff game and folks can look up stuff real time anyway, BUT it's good to see Naz continue to positively impact games. After a slow start early in the Denver series, he's been very solid for the last 7 games or so. He's been really good on the defensive glass, which historically has been an issue for him.