@kaibosworth: @DWolfsonKSTP @Jerry7goda one glaring omission seems to be the late first PG workout: Tyus, Grant, Rozier, Wright. glad they got Vaughn in
@DWolfsonKSTP: @kaibosworth @Jerry7goda Rozier has already been in. They like him.
I like the idea of Rozier as well. Talked the other day about how i (and several others) like Wright because he brings continuity on the court as he carries similar skillset to Rubio. Rozier is a polar opposite of Rubio in that he will look to score more often than not. He is a very skilled player....and not a true PG....but I would be pretty happy with him as a backup PG type. Similar skillset to Jason Terry.
DX oddly doesn't seem to have a writeup about Rozier what is his defense like? I can't find much about that side of the ball from what I read.
You can kind of go one of two ways with a backup PG: 1) Get someone with complementary strengths to your starter, which in our case would be someone that is more of a shooter/scorer, or 2) Get a doppelganger that largely plays the same role as the starter, or 3) Find some magic combination of both. In our case, #3 would be a 3 & D pass-first PG at a reasonable price, if there is such a thing.
In the absence of finding a unicorn (#3), I'd go with #2. The reason is that when I look at our four primary wings heading into next season - Martin, Wiggins, Shabazz, and LaVine - all have the track record and/or potential (in LaVine's case) to be very strong scorers. Yet three out of the four are very shaky defensively. So I'd err on the side of a defender/distributor versus a scorer/shooter. That way you always have someone on the perimeter that can defend, even when Rubio and Wiggins are sitting.
Any of these late 1st/early 2nd PGs fit that bill?
Q12543 wrote:You can kind of go one of two ways with a backup PG: 1) Get someone with complementary strengths to your starter, which in our case would be someone that is more of a shooter/scorer, or 2) Get a doppelganger that largely plays the same role as the starter, or 3) Find some magic combination of both. In our case, #3 would be a 3 & D pass-first PG at a reasonable price, if there is such a thing.
In the absence of finding a unicorn (#3), I'd go with #2. The reason is that when I look at our four primary wings heading into next season - Martin, Wiggins, Shabazz, and LaVine - all have the track record and/or potential (in LaVine's case) to be very strong scorers. Yet three out of the four are very shaky defensively. So I'd err on the side of a defender/distributor versus a scorer/shooter. That way you always have someone on the perimeter that can defend, even when Rubio and Wiggins are sitting.
Any of these late 1st/early 2nd PGs fit that bill?
This is why having a D-league affiliate would be a good thing. Aaron Craft finished up as the D-league defensive player of the year and his team won the championship. GS has him as an affiliate player. I think he might be the type of guy you are looking for Q.
I think the ideal reasonable backup pg would be a defensive dude that can hit a 3 but I would settle for a guy that can drive and play D and bring up the ball and be decent running the team. Basically if the guy can play defense and do something positive on offense that sounds good. Too bad Lorenzo Brown isn't that good on defense or he would be about what Q is looking for and info think that makes a lot of sense as well.
Q12543 wrote:You can kind of go one of two ways with a backup PG: 1) Get someone with complementary strengths to your starter, which in our case would be someone that is more of a shooter/scorer, or 2) Get a doppelganger that largely plays the same role as the starter, or 3) Find some magic combination of both. In our case, #3 would be a 3 & D pass-first PG at a reasonable price, if there is such a thing.
In the absence of finding a unicorn (#3), I'd go with #2. The reason is that when I look at our four primary wings heading into next season - Martin, Wiggins, Shabazz, and LaVine - all have the track record and/or potential (in LaVine's case) to be very strong scorers. Yet three out of the four are very shaky defensively. So I'd err on the side of a defender/distributor versus a scorer/shooter. That way you always have someone on the perimeter that can defend, even when Rubio and Wiggins are sitting.
Any of these late 1st/early 2nd PGs fit that bill?
This is why having a D-league affiliate would be a good thing. Aaron Craft finished up as the D-league defensive player of the year and his team won the championship. GS has him as an affiliate player. I think he might be the type of guy you are looking for Q.
I think the ideal reasonable backup pg would be a defensive dude that can hit a 3 but I would settle for a guy that can drive and play D and bring up the ball and be decent running the team. Basically if the guy can play defense and do something positive on offense that sounds good. Too bad Lorenzo Brown isn't that good on defense or he would be about what Q is looking for and info think that makes a lot of sense as well.
Yes, Aaron Craft with a 3-ball. That would be ideal!
Q12543 wrote:You can kind of go one of two ways with a backup PG: 1) Get someone with complementary strengths to your starter, which in our case would be someone that is more of a shooter/scorer, or 2) Get a doppelganger that largely plays the same role as the starter, or 3) Find some magic combination of both. In our case, #3 would be a 3 & D pass-first PG at a reasonable price, if there is such a thing.
In the absence of finding a unicorn (#3), I'd go with #2. The reason is that when I look at our four primary wings heading into next season - Martin, Wiggins, Shabazz, and LaVine - all have the track record and/or potential (in LaVine's case) to be very strong scorers. Yet three out of the four are very shaky defensively. So I'd err on the side of a defender/distributor versus a scorer/shooter. That way you always have someone on the perimeter that can defend, even when Rubio and Wiggins are sitting.
Any of these late 1st/early 2nd PGs fit that bill?
This is why having a D-league affiliate would be a good thing. Aaron Craft finished up as the D-league defensive player of the year and his team won the championship. GS has him as an affiliate player. I think he might be the type of guy you are looking for Q.
I think the ideal reasonable backup pg would be a defensive dude that can hit a 3 but I would settle for a guy that can drive and play D and bring up the ball and be decent running the team. Basically if the guy can play defense and do something positive on offense that sounds good. Too bad Lorenzo Brown isn't that good on defense or he would be about what Q is looking for and info think that makes a lot of sense as well.
Yes, Aaron Craft with a 3-ball. That would be ideal!
(and probably too expensive/hard to find)
If his defense was as good as advertised and he could hit a 3 pointer he might be a starter for the right team...for example I'm sure Phil would be pretty interested.
Jerian Grant gives me Reggie Jackson (the NBA player) flashes. If we're to target a point guard in this draft AFTER our No. 1 pick (Towns), then that's been my guy for a while. I want a guard that I feel can be competent early as a backup, but has the skills/upside to potentially be a starter. I think we get that with Grant. One of my underrated guys of this class.
Q12543 wrote:You can kind of go one of two ways with a backup PG: 1) Get someone with complementary strengths to your starter, which in our case would be someone that is more of a shooter/scorer, or 2) Get a doppelganger that largely plays the same role as the starter, or 3) Find some magic combination of both. In our case, #3 would be a 3 & D pass-first PG at a reasonable price, if there is such a thing.
In the absence of finding a unicorn (#3), I'd go with #2. The reason is that when I look at our four primary wings heading into next season - Martin, Wiggins, Shabazz, and LaVine - all have the track record and/or potential (in LaVine's case) to be very strong scorers. Yet three out of the four are very shaky defensively. So I'd err on the side of a defender/distributor versus a scorer/shooter. That way you always have someone on the perimeter that can defend, even when Rubio and Wiggins are sitting.
Any of these late 1st/early 2nd PGs fit that bill?
I agree with your analysis of what this team needs in a backup PG. Rozier fits the bill defensively, but is not a good distributor. So the only option as I see it is Deion Wright who is a terrific defender and also a good distributor. I think he's gone at 31 though.
Camden wrote:The only option? I'm laughing at that.
You appear to be easily amused tonight, cam. When you finish laughing, please enlighten us with a PG likely to be available at 31 that meets Q's criteria as an acceptable defender/distributor. Warning: most of us have seen Andrew Harrison's game.
In terms of young-ish veterans, Cory Joseph would fit the bill. He's very solid defensively and came up through the Spurs system, which automatically makes him smarter than 80% of our current roster (and coaches). But I'm afraid his price tag will go up a lot this offseason. He's probably better suited for a playoff team.
