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Re: Around the League 2022-23

Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2022 2:12 pm
by Q-is-here
How about Memphis losing to a short-handed OKC team after we just beat OKC the night before? I realize Ja got tossed fairly early in that game, but OKC was missing SGA and Giddey. That is a bad loss for Memphis.

Re: Around the League 2022-23

Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2022 9:03 pm
by Lipoli390
Q-was-here wrote:How about Memphis losing to a short-handed OKC team after we just beat OKC the night before? I realize Ja got tossed fairly early in that game, but OKC was missing SGA and Giddey. That is a bad loss for Memphis.


Makes the Wolves win over OKC even more impressive.

Re: Around the League 2022-23

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 7:38 am
by Lipoli390
The Thunder beat Portland last night. The Wolves win at OKC the other night was definitely impressive. OKC is a pretty good team and their arena is a tough place for visiting teams to play. Yet, the short-handed Wolves beat them.

Re: Around the League 2022-23

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:05 pm
by Lipoli390
Vanderbilt had 18 points,13 rebounds, 6 assists and 2 steals tonight. Kessler had 10 points, 9 rebounds and 3 blocks.

Re: Around the League 2022-23

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:15 pm
by Monster
lipoli390 wrote:Vanderbilt had 18 points,13 rebounds, 6 assists and 2 steals tonight. Kessler had 10 points, 9 rebounds and 3 blocks.


Markkanen continues an impressive season.

Anyone else notice Kevin Knox is having a solid statistical season for the Pistons? Anyone see if he is doing other good things other than hitting shots which...is nice lol

Re: Around the League 2022-23

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:16 pm
by AbeVigodaLive
lipoli390 wrote:The Thunder beat Portland last night. The Wolves win at OKC the other night was definitely impressive. OKC is a pretty good team and their arena is a tough place for visiting teams to play. Yet, the short-handed Wolves beat them.



Meh. They were in the middle of a 5-game losing streak. As a bottom 10 team in the league, I don't know if "pretty good" fits the bill for them.

Even though the Wolves were shorthanded... I still think we're at the point where wins over surefire lottery-bound teams are almost expected.

Re: Around the League 2022-23

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:34 pm
by Lipoli390
monsterpile wrote:
lipoli390 wrote:Vanderbilt had 18 points,13 rebounds, 6 assists and 2 steals tonight. Kessler had 10 points, 9 rebounds and 3 blocks.


Markkanen continues an impressive season.

Anyone else notice Kevin Knox is having a solid statistical season for the Pistons? Anyone see if he is doing other good things other than hitting shots which...is nice lol


You're right about Markkanen. I've never been a big Markkanen fan and never expected him to have a season like the one he's having. Another one I got wrong. I recall Rosas was interested in trading for Markkanen. He had a pretty good sense of talent - Naz, Nowell, Reid, JMac, and Edwards, but also the ones he wanted but didn't get like Garland and Markkanen. I recall Rosas was reportedly also trying ti maneuver for another 1st-round pick to draft Haliburton. Sure, he made some mistakes like drafting Culver and re-signing Juancho. I also think he made a mistake with the DLO deal, although there's a reasonable debate about that. All in all, I miss him. No way he would have made the Gobert deal and that would have made me happy. :)

Re: Around the League 2022-23

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:39 pm
by Q-is-here
Golden State lost to the Knicks (got crushed in fact), giving us a bit of a cushion from the cutoff from missing the playoffs/play-in tourney.

Not that any of us would be giddy if we barely made the play-in tourney, but it's certainly better than completely missing everything in a year we don't have a pick. Plus we continue to stay within striking distance of the top 6.

Re: Around the League 2022-23

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:44 pm
by Q-is-here
lipoli390 wrote:
monsterpile wrote:
lipoli390 wrote:Vanderbilt had 18 points,13 rebounds, 6 assists and 2 steals tonight. Kessler had 10 points, 9 rebounds and 3 blocks.


Markkanen continues an impressive season.

Anyone else notice Kevin Knox is having a solid statistical season for the Pistons? Anyone see if he is doing other good things other than hitting shots which...is nice lol


You're right about Markkanen. I've never been a big Markkanen fan and never expected him to have a season like the one he's having. Another one I got wrong. I recall Rosas was interested in trading for Markkanen. He had a pretty good sense of talent - Naz, Nowell, Reid, JMac, and Edwards, but also the ones he wanted but didn't get like Garland and Markkanen. I recall Rosas was reportedly also trying ti maneuver for another 1st-round pick to draft Haliburton. Sure, he made some mistakes like drafting Culver and re-signing Juancho. I also think he made a mistake with the DLO deal, although there's a reasonable debate about that. All in all, I miss him. No way he would have made the Gobert deal and that would have made me happy. :)


It is a little odd to see someone take such a big leap after 5 seasons of good, but not great, production. Not that guys can't keep improving into their mid and later 20s, but he has taken an unusually big leap for a 6th year player.

Re: Around the League 2022-23

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:22 pm
by Lipoli390
Q-was-here wrote:
lipoli390 wrote:
monsterpile wrote:
lipoli390 wrote:Vanderbilt had 18 points,13 rebounds, 6 assists and 2 steals tonight. Kessler had 10 points, 9 rebounds and 3 blocks.


Markkanen continues an impressive season.

Anyone else notice Kevin Knox is having a solid statistical season for the Pistons? Anyone see if he is doing other good things other than hitting shots which...is nice lol


You're right about Markkanen. I've never been a big Markkanen fan and never expected him to have a season like the one he's having. Another one I got wrong. I recall Rosas was interested in trading for Markkanen. He had a pretty good sense of talent - Naz, Nowell, Reid, JMac, and Edwards, but also the ones he wanted but didn't get like Garland and Markkanen. I recall Rosas was reportedly also trying ti maneuver for another 1st-round pick to draft Haliburton. Sure, he made some mistakes like drafting Culver and re-signing Juancho. I also think he made a mistake with the DLO deal, although there's a reasonable debate about that. All in all, I miss him. No way he would have made the Gobert deal and that would have made me happy. :)


It is a little odd to see someone take such a big leap after 5 seasons of good, but not great, production. Not that guys can't keep improving into their mid and later 20s, but he has taken an unusually big leap for a 6th year player.


Yes, it's unusual, but not unprecedented. Billups was a prime example of a late bloomer who didn't hit his stride until his 5th or 6th season. Steve Nash didn't take a leap forward until his 5th season. Even Kobe Bryant actually took his biggest leap in his 5th season when he went from averaging 22.5 points to 28.5. I know there have been other really good and even elite players (like the aforementioned) who were particularly late bloomers. That's why I always preach patience with young players. In contrast, I'm not especially patient with 30 year old vets.