Minnesota Sports Forum

AbeVigodaLive wrote:

monsterpile wrote:As for typos and grammar...I'm not the greatest at that stuff but I work at trying to convey my thought the best I can. My wife is and many of my friends work in communications or teach rhetoric etc. I'm basically a goober in this regard compared to them. When I post here or write and email I tend to read everything over at least once to hopefully correct things and make it make sense. I still make mistakes. At work when I send emails I tend to make quite an effort to look it over well. I had a boss that when she hired an office manager she would get someone who was good at writing and proofreading because she struggled in that area. She was very good at a lot of aspects of her job but she found a way to counteract that weakness. She also hired good people for that job. It was not full time position so that's why people didn't stay for more than a few years.

When it comes to social media I don't post a whole lot although I have done a bit more via Facebook this year due to getting to know some people. I try and look over things there too.

I think it's fair to give people a break for making the occasional mistake especially if it's due to autocorrect. I think we have all experienced times where we type a word correctly and it gets changed to something else and then we correct it and then it gets changed again etc. What I do find bothersome is people that don't seem to care and make careless mistakes all the time. Also yes if you are a significant public figure I think you should be held to a higher standard. Still I'm going to give you a break if there is a mistake at some point. Everyone screws up sometimes. At the college I went to and worked at they printed up schedules for the women's volleyball team. One year they spelled it "Womenns" or something like that. It was a bad error all around but the athletic director who I had known for a long time was really embarrassed about it. He isn't a perfect guy but generally is well put together. It makes me feel a little better when someone that's legitimately good at their job and in general does well at the things they do make a mistake. They are human after all if I do something wrong once it isn't going to mean I suck. It can feel that way sometimes though.

Edit: Also I get that people have OCD or very particular and some things just jump out at them and they can't help but notice it and be very frustrated. I think everyone has something that if they see done incorrectly it drives them a little nuts.

Also I'm more interested in whether what someone says or writes communicates what they actually wanted to say. Language also changes. Words don't always mean the same thing to everyone but they do matter.

Most large organizations pay somebody (or multiple people) between $50k - $250k in part to avoid misspellings and such on public-facing documents.

No organization as large as the Wolves -- where public relations is a key component -- should be sending anything out that's this important unless it's proofed by multiple people.

It's a PR hit on multiple levels. People are mocking the Wolves once again. And deservedly so.

Camden wrote:

BloopOracle wrote:Imagine working decades to finally reach the pinnacle of your profession, only to throw it and your marriage away because you couldn't keep your dick in your pants.

I had this thought earlier this morning. President of Basketball Operations in the NBA is a dream job and one I'm sure many of us here have fantasized about many times -- I know I have. And to see someone throw it all away because of an inappropriate workplace relationship as well as normal people skills... It's just sad, really.

FNG wrote:

60WinTim wrote:

FNG wrote:

Camden wrote:"New interim head of basketball operations Sachin Gupta is well-regarded by team officials and is expected to get a chance to earn the permanent job, sources tell The Athletic."

Honestly, this is to be expected and we've seen that kind of report before with other organizations, but I enjoyed seeing this today. It doesn't always work out that way where the interim label comes off, but I'm rooting for Sachin Gupta. I think he's legit.

I'm willing to be patient and see if this guy can be effective, but frankly I just don't know much about him. He's obviously smart...engineering and computer science degree from MIT and MBA from Stanford. I just don't know if those things will translate to success in the NBA. We'll have to see. My guess is this is merely an interim step to keep the executive office filled during this critical time, but that Lore/Arod will eventually put their stamp on their team by choosing their own POBO, and I'm guessing fluency in Java may not be at the top of their criteria list. Being able to complete an effective deal for Simmons would help his chances of getting rid of that interim label.

Well, he did create ESPN's Trade Machine, so that has got to count for something! :)

Ha, I just read that...I'm now convinced!

Lip put together a pretty good list of POBO's who have never played the game. I would say though that David Griffin is an example of why I'm concerned about POBO's like David Kahn who think they are "the smartest guy in the room" but can't really understand the mind of an NBA player. Remember what Griffin handed out to his players in the bubble? Copies of The Alchemist...the actual book, not the comic book version. Did he really think any of the players were going to read it, much less understand it?

FNG wrote:

Camden wrote:

FNG wrote:

Camden wrote:"New interim head of basketball operations Sachin Gupta is well-regarded by team officials and is expected to get a chance to earn the permanent job, sources tell The Athletic."

Honestly, this is to be expected and we've seen that kind of report before with other organizations, but I enjoyed seeing this today. It doesn't always work out that way where the interim label comes off, but I'm rooting for Sachin Gupta. I think he's legit.

I'm willing to be patient and see if this guy can be effective, but frankly I just don't know much about him. He's obviously smart...engineering and computer science degree from MIT and MBA from Stanford. I just don't know if those things will translate to success in the NBA. We'll have to see. My guess is this is merely an interim step to keep the executive office filled during this critical time, but that Lore/Arod will eventually put their stamp on their team by choosing their own POBO, and I'm guessing fluency in Java may not be at the top of their criteria list. Being able to complete an effective deal for Simmons would help his chances of getting rid of that interim label.

You should read up on him. Gupta's got some serious history that suggests he knows what he's doing in NBA front offices -- specifically his time in Houston leading up to the acquisition of James Harden, and his time in Philadelphia during The Process. Gupta's fingerprints are all over those franchises. I think you have him labeled in your mind as just a software engineer or the typical computer nerd, but he's been much more involved in basketball operations than that to this point in his career.

Yep- open mind, open mind...I agree. I'm not necessarily discounting the "nerd" factor...could be helpful. I;m kind of an analytical guy myself. Just saying his non-athlete background sounds a little too much like Kahn and Rosas. If he makes no successful moves and this team wins less than 35 games, I can guarantee I'll be clamoring for the new ownership to bring in a guy with a different profile. But if he can pull off a Dlo (or Beasley) plus picks deal for Simmons though, I may even convert to Hinduism.

Camden0916 wrote:I can be a stickler when it comes to spelling, grammar, punctuation, pronunciation, vocabulary, and even format. I think words matter and how you use them says a lot about you as a person, and more importantly as a professional. Yes, those in charge of an NBA franchise should be held to a higher standard. Additionally, there should never be a typo or an error in a press release considering how many people end up reviewing it before it gets sent out. That's an inexcusable albeit minor mistake that should have been fixed.

PorkChop wrote:

Camden0916 wrote:I can be a stickler when it comes to spelling, grammar, punctuation, pronunciation, vocabulary, and even format. I think words matter and how you use them says a lot about you as a person, and more importantly as a professional. Yes, those in charge of an NBA franchise should be held to a higher standard. Additionally, there should never be a typo or an error in a press release considering how many people end up reviewing it before it gets sent out. That's an inexcusable albeit minor mistake that should have been fixed.

I'm curious to know what you think it says about a person based on their grammar, punctuation, vocabulary and format. Do you judge athletes based on the way they speak the English language?