BizarroJerry wrote:My old TV was a Zenith, lasted 10 years, I wish they still made them.
Give me a nice 17-inch swivel screen Philco over a Zenith any day...now that's a TV!
http://www.tvhistory.tv/Predicta_TV1.jpg
Cool mentioned Ricky is getting to the line at a pretty good rate...I would say exceptional rate. 4.6 FT attempts per game on only 8 shots per game leads the team...even ahead of Wig. And he's making them at an improved 84% rate. That's a huge offsetting factor to his horrible shooting.
BizarroJerry wrote:My old TV was a Zenith, lasted 10 years, I wish they still made them.
Give me a nice 17-inch swivel screen Philco over a Zenith any day...now that's a TV!
http://www.tvhistory.tv/Predicta_TV1.jpg
Cool mentioned Ricky is getting to the line at a pretty good rate...I would say exceptional rate. 4.6 FT attempts per game on only 8 shots per game leads the team...even ahead of Wig. And he's making them at an improved 84% rate. That's a huge offsetting factor to his horrible shooting.
I think u underestimate what a disadvantage it is to run an offense when 1 of the 5 guys on the court is either incapable or unwilling to shoot the basketball. One could argue that becuz of this, defenders never leave their guy on a Rubio dribble drive. When Ricky inevitably kicks the ball back out ( cuz he can't /won't finish in traffic) to an expected wide open three the defender is already waiting to have a hand in the shooters face .. There's been a good discussion on here about poor 3pt shooting or lack thereof. Maybe the pg should share in the blame?
SameOldNudityDrew wrote:I don't think Rubio's mechanics actually look ALL that bad. He's a little flat-footed, but he doesn't seem to get blocked that much and some flat-footed shooters have had great success. He looks like he's trying to push the ball in too much, which is probably why his shots are consistently flat (and that IS a big thing for him to work on, getting more arc on the ball).
But at the end of the day, everybody has slightly different mechanics. And while some are definitely better than others, even guys with bad mechanics (Martin) can become good shooters. Rubio's inability to hit shots comes down to one seemingly impossible conclusion--he just doesn't have any "touch" on his shot.
This seems impossible because he's such a deft passer. Why can he hit guys on target (most of the time) with passes but not hit the basket?
At the end of the day, Rubio seems to highlight the fact that shooting and passing are different skills. It's what makes Rubio's shooting all the more tragic. He can throw the ball in the right place horizontally, but he just can't do it while shooting. It's a real shame.
My hint to these kind of players is, use glass as much as you can. It is your best friend as it gives you target to hit horizontally. All shots from sides should be bank shots and most of finishing around the rim should go of glass as well. I do not see that with Ricky though, do not know why.
SameOldNudityDrew wrote:I don't think Rubio's mechanics actually look ALL that bad. He's a little flat-footed, but he doesn't seem to get blocked that much and some flat-footed shooters have had great success. He looks like he's trying to push the ball in too much, which is probably why his shots are consistently flat (and that IS a big thing for him to work on, getting more arc on the ball).
But at the end of the day, everybody has slightly different mechanics. And while some are definitely better than others, even guys with bad mechanics (Martin) can become good shooters. Rubio's inability to hit shots comes down to one seemingly impossible conclusion--he just doesn't have any "touch" on his shot.
This seems impossible because he's such a deft passer. Why can he hit guys on target (most of the time) with passes but not hit the basket?
At the end of the day, Rubio seems to highlight the fact that shooting and passing are different skills. It's what makes Rubio's shooting all the more tragic. He can throw the ball in the right place horizontally, but he just can't do it while shooting. It's a real shame.
Drew, What's even more bizarre than the passing accuracy vs. shooting inaccuracy paradox is the free throw shooting accuracy vs. shooting inaccuracy paradox. I mean, what player in history sported an 85 FT% while shooting sub-35% from the field? It's remarkable really.
I still say the ticket to his success is to perfect the set-shot 3 and pretty much abandon the idea of ever being a good jump shooter off the dribble. At least there have been signs of competency using this shot, dating back to his years in Europe.
BizarroJerry wrote:My old TV was a Zenith, lasted 10 years, I wish they still made them.
Give me a nice 17-inch swivel screen Philco over a Zenith any day...now that's a TV!
http://www.tvhistory.tv/Predicta_TV1.jpg
Cool mentioned Ricky is getting to the line at a pretty good rate...I would say exceptional rate. 4.6 FT attempts per game on only 8 shots per game leads the team...even ahead of Wig. And he's making them at an improved 84% rate. That's a huge offsetting factor to his horrible shooting.
Awesome relic Would be great for a Super Bowl Party LST. I can't handle anymore Rubio discussions right now, so I'll come back here at the All-Star break and change my figure.
BizarroJerry wrote:My old TV was a Zenith, lasted 10 years, I wish they still made them.
Give me a nice 17-inch swivel screen Philco over a Zenith any day...now that's a TV!
http://www.tvhistory.tv/Predicta_TV1.jpg
Cool mentioned Ricky is getting to the line at a pretty good rate...I would say exceptional rate. 4.6 FT attempts per game on only 8 shots per game leads the team...even ahead of Wig. And he's making them at an improved 84% rate. That's a huge offsetting factor to his horrible shooting.
I think u underestimate what a disadvantage it is to run an offense when 1 of the 5 guys on the court is either incapable or unwilling to shoot the basketball. One could argue that becuz of this, defenders never leave their guy on a Rubio dribble drive. When Ricky inevitably kicks the ball back out ( cuz he can't /won't finish in traffic) to an expected wide open three the defender is already waiting to have a hand in the shooters face .. There's been a good discussion on here about poor 3pt shooting or lack thereof. Maybe the pg should share in the blame?
But defenders still see him as enough of a threat to need to foul him and give up 1.7 points almost 30% of the time.
OK, my stats are way off, because his FT numbers will be inflated by end of game fouls etc (we'll assume that he rarely gets And 1s because he rarely makes the FG). But it's another interesting paradox in the Curious Case of Ricky Rubio that he's not a threat on offence and yet is fouled at quite a high rate.
He's really good at drawing fouls. I think he's learned to focus on initiating contact whenever he doesn't have a shot he's confident in (AKA any shot where he's not wide open). It's funny, I bet if you compare Wiggins FG % when he's fouled vs Rubio's FG% near the rim whether he's fouled or not, I feel like they're similar. We all say if Rubio could just hit a 3 point shot consistently, or a mid range shot, or a floater, or finish at the rim, then he'd be fine and our offense would be fine, but he is committed to being bad at all of them equally. Gotta respect his commitment and consistency.
BizarroJerry wrote:My old TV was a Zenith, lasted 10 years, I wish they still made them.
Give me a nice 17-inch swivel screen Philco over a Zenith any day...now that's a TV!
http://www.tvhistory.tv/Predicta_TV1.jpg
Cool mentioned Ricky is getting to the line at a pretty good rate...I would say exceptional rate. 4.6 FT attempts per game on only 8 shots per game leads the team...even ahead of Wig. And he's making them at an improved 84% rate. That's a huge offsetting factor to his horrible shooting.
I think u underestimate what a disadvantage it is to run an offense when 1 of the 5 guys on the court is either incapable or unwilling to shoot the basketball. One could argue that becuz of this, defenders never leave their guy on a Rubio dribble drive. When Ricky inevitably kicks the ball back out ( cuz he can't /won't finish in traffic) to an expected wide open three the defender is already waiting to have a hand in the shooters face .. There's been a good discussion on here about poor 3pt shooting or lack thereof. Maybe the pg should share in the blame?
But defenders still see him as enough of a threat to need to foul him and give up 1.7 points almost 30% of the time.
OK, my stats are way off, because his FT numbers will be inflated by end of game fouls etc (we'll assume that he rarely gets And 1s because he rarely makes the FG). But it's another interesting paradox in the Curious Case of Ricky Rubio that he's not a threat on offence and yet is fouled at quite a high rate.
Yes. Rubio can draw fouls.
Sure, the ratio between field goal attempts and free throw attempts is higher than most, but it's not like it's giving the Wolves a huge advantage over every other team in the league. He's tied for 13th in the NBA among PGs for free throw attempts per game.
So he's still getting to the line at an average rate for starting PGs.
Sure, the ratio between field goal attempts and free throw attempts is higher than most, but it's not like it's giving the Wolves a huge advantage over every other team in the league. He's tied for 13th in the NBA among PGs for free throw attempts per game.
So he's still getting to the line at an average rate for starting PGs.
But he can draw fouls at an average rate with a well below average usage rate... All without being a threat to actually score. Clearly it doesn't make him an efficient scorer, but it's fascinating that he can generate the most efficient points in basketball at a high rate given that he can't shoot.
Sure, the ratio between field goal attempts and free throw attempts is higher than most, but it's not like it's giving the Wolves a huge advantage over every other team in the league. He's tied for 13th in the NBA among PGs for free throw attempts per game.
So he's still getting to the line at an average rate for starting PGs.
But he can draw fouls at an average rate with a well below average usage rate... All without being a threat to actually score. Clearly it doesn't make him an efficient scorer, but it's fascinating that he can generate the most efficient points in basketball at a high rate given that he can't shoot.
It's something Rubio has done for years going back to his international career as well. What sets Rubio apart from a lot of guys is his ability to draw fouls on the perimeter while he is handling the ball. I don't think it's a huge advantage or anything but it is somewhat overlooked at times and it is another indicator of how Rubio is a guy that really knows how to play regardless of his flaws or whatnot.
