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All this talk about trading #5 for _____ made me look back at past #5 picks to see what the chances are of getting a pretty good player. Looking through the past picks there is around 30% chance of getting a really good player and around a 50% chance at getting a pretty useful player and I am being conservative with that number. There are very few guys that are basically complete busts it seems likely you will at least get a legit rotation player and pretty likely to get a solid starter. Obviously we could pick the next Skita, Bender or Sheldon Williams but I like the chances of getting a worthwhile player at #5 who will it be? Stay tuned.

http://www.mynbadraft.com/nba-draft-picks/5th-overall/50509/

I apologize for the poor formatting I am posting this on my phone.

Picks
Year Player Drafted From Drafted By
2013 Alex Len Maryland Phoenix
2012 Thomas Robinson Kansas Sacramento
2011 Jonas Valanciunas Lithuania Toronto
2010 DeMarcus Cousins Kentucky Sacramento
2009 Ricky Rubio DKV Joventut Minnesota
2008 Kevin Love UCLA Memphis
2007 Jeff Green Georgetown Boston
2006 Shelden Williams Duke Atlanta
2005 Raymond Felton UNC Jr. Charlotte
2004 Devin Harris Wisconsin Jr. Dallas
2003 Dwyane Wade Marquette Jr. Miami
2002 Nickoloz Tskitishvili Georgia 1983 Denver
2001 Jason Richardson Michigan St. So. Golden State
2000 Mike Miller Florida So. Orlando
1999 Jonathan Bender Mississippi HSSr. Toronto
1998 Vince Carter North Carolina Golden State
1997 Tony Battie Texas Tech Denver
1996 Ray Allen Connecticut Minnesota
1995 Kevin Garnett Farragut Academy (Ill.) Minnesota
1994 Juwan Howard Michigan Washington
1993 Isaiah Rider Nevada-Las Vegas Minnesota
1992 LaPhonso Ellis Notre Dame Denver
1991 Steve Smith Michigan State Miami
1990 Kendall Gill Illinois NO Hornets
1989 J.R. Reid North Carolina NO Hornets
1988 Mitch Richmond Kansas State Golden State
1987 Scottie Pippen Central Arkansas Seattle
1986 Kenny Walker Kentucky New York
1985 Jon Koncak Southern Methodist Atlanta
1984 Charles Barkley Auburn Philadelphia
1983 Sidney Green Nevada-Las Vegas Chicago
1982 LaSalle Thompson Texas Kansas City
1981 Danny Vranes Utah Seattle
1980 James Ray Jacksonville

FWIW in his last podcast Jon K said he doesn't really have a good read on anything with the draft although he still says getting a shooter makes a ton of sense. He did say one guy nobody really has mentioned for the wolves is Chriss. He said that the Wolves have done plenty of homework on Chriss and he thinks it's possible he is in the mix. That's not earth shattering but it was interesting because Jon doesn't just throw stuff out there so I think it was worth at least mentioning especially since we just don't have much real info.

monsterpile wrote:All this talk about trading #5 for _____ made me look back at past #5 picks to see what the chances are of getting a pretty good player. Looking through the past picks there is around 30% chance of getting a really good player and around a 50% chance at getting a pretty useful player and I am being conservative with that number. There are very few guys that are basically complete busts it seems likely you will at least get a legit rotation player and pretty likely to get a solid starter. Obviously we could pick the next Skita, Bender or Sheldon Williams but I like the chances of getting a worthwhile player at #5 who will it be? Stay tuned.

http://www.mynbadraft.com/nba-draft-picks/5th-overall/50509/

I apologize for the poor formatting I am posting this on my phone.

Picks
Year Player Drafted From Drafted By
2013 Alex Len Maryland Phoenix
2012 Thomas Robinson Kansas Sacramento
2011 Jonas Valanciunas Lithuania Toronto
2010 DeMarcus Cousins Kentucky Sacramento
2009 Ricky Rubio DKV Joventut Minnesota
2008 Kevin Love UCLA Memphis
2007 Jeff Green Georgetown Boston
2006 Shelden Williams Duke Atlanta
2005 Raymond Felton UNC Jr. Charlotte
2004 Devin Harris Wisconsin Jr. Dallas
2003 Dwyane Wade Marquette Jr. Miami
2002 Nickoloz Tskitishvili Georgia 1983 Denver
2001 Jason Richardson Michigan St. So. Golden State
2000 Mike Miller Florida So. Orlando
1999 Jonathan Bender Mississippi HSSr. Toronto
1998 Vince Carter North Carolina Golden State
1997 Tony Battie Texas Tech Denver
1996 Ray Allen Connecticut Minnesota
1995 Kevin Garnett Farragut Academy (Ill.) Minnesota
1994 Juwan Howard Michigan Washington
1993 Isaiah Rider Nevada-Las Vegas Minnesota
1992 LaPhonso Ellis Notre Dame Denver
1991 Steve Smith Michigan State Miami
1990 Kendall Gill Illinois NO Hornets
1989 J.R. Reid North Carolina NO Hornets
1988 Mitch Richmond Kansas State Golden State
1987 Scottie Pippen Central Arkansas Seattle
1986 Kenny Walker Kentucky New York
1985 Jon Koncak Southern Methodist Atlanta
1984 Charles Barkley Auburn Philadelphia
1983 Sidney Green Nevada-Las Vegas Chicago
1982 LaSalle Thompson Texas Kansas City
1981 Danny Vranes Utah Seattle
1980 James Ray Jacksonville

I count 7 hall of famers in there. Position #5 can certainly be a valuable chip.

Looking at the latest DX mock draft it makes me hope Layden and Thins are telling Glen to have his checkbook ready to buy a late 2nd round pick. Various guys would be interesting depending on what we do with the first round pick. Hammonds, Bentil, Payton, Laymen, LaVert and other guys I would like to get if we can.

Today's rumor that Russell might be available for the 5th pick just adds to the drama already surrounding this pick. I can't remember a year where a Wolves draft was more unpredictable or where there were so many suitable options to do with our pick. Let's review the options that might be there for Thibs/Leydon:

1) Keep the pick and pick one of these guys knowing that 4 of these 6 guys will be available at 5: Hield, Bender, Murray, Brown, Dunn and Criss.

2) Trade the pick to one of several teams that have multiple later picks...Sabonis and Valentine, for example.

3) Trade the pick for one of the two big men Philly may make available...Noel or Okafor

4) Trade the pick for D'Angelo Russell

5) Trade the pick for a vet or a combination of picks and vets.

Thursday night will be great fun, and it will be fun to evaluate Thibs/Leydon a year from now.

I may have said this before, but I will be in Brooklyn Thursday night.

If anyone else is, please let me know. Wolves fans tend to clique up on Draft night. Oddly enough, NYC might have the largest cluster of Wolves fans that I've noticed in any city (LA is maybe close. I've seen Clipper games have a large Wolves contingent).



That's me on the right.

My wish list is this:

1. Bender
2. Hield
3. Sabonis
4. Murray
5. Dunn or Chriss (I can't really decide)

I will say this: IF Brown and Chriss go 3 and 4, I'd like to see Minny try to trade 5 to Denver for 7/15 or 7/19. I'd pray Sabonis is there at 15. If not, target best big available at 15.

Not to sound vain, but they're probably gonna show me on TV again because I attend this annually. I'll have my Towns shirt on just so you guys can spot me.

WildWolf2813 wrote:I may have said this before, but I will be in Brooklyn Thursday night.

If anyone else is, please let me know. Wolves fans tend to clique up on Draft night. Oddly enough, NYC might have the largest cluster of Wolves fans that I've noticed in any city (LA is maybe close. I've seen Clipper games have a large Wolves contingent).



That's me on the right.

My wish list is this:

1. Bender
2. Hield
3. Sabonis
4. Murray
5. Dunn or Chriss (I can't really decide)

I will say this: IF Brown and Chriss go 3 and 4, I'd like to see Minny try to trade 5 to Denver for 7/15 or 7/19. I'd pray Sabonis is there at 15. If not, target best big available at 15.

Not to sound vain, but they're probably gonna show me on TV again because I attend this annually. I'll have my Towns shirt on just so you guys can spot me.

Ha I remember seeing that and wondering if that was WW.

Wow, Buddy Hield recorded a 40-inch vertical leap at his Lakers workout on Saturday. Buddy Love!!

Darren Wolfson?@DWolfsonKSTP
Buddy Hield told Lakers media today that he had an individual workout w/ the #Twolves. They also saw him in a group workout.

A couple injury issues I hadn't seen before but explains why these guys have been low or dropping significantly lately.

Valentine reportedly has a possible degenerative knee issue which is why he is so far down the draft board.

Ulis may have a hip issue which is why he is falling.