Wolves vs Wiz GDT

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lipoli390 wrote:Here's my list of players, other than KAT, who I want to see from this point on in the season:

1. JMac
2. Edwards
3. Okogie
4. Nowell
5. Beasley
6. Vanderbilt
7. Naz Reid
8. Culver - although I'm losing patience with him

Those are the guys with talent who are also athletic and play hard. I have no interest in seeing DLO on the court anymore. And while I love Ricky, I'd prefer to move on from him.


The thing with DLO is that we absolutely need his shooting and scoring. But he has to do it within the flow of the offense and start making better decisions with his shots and passing. He's just playing lazy, sloppy basketball right now and it's terrible. I think he's something like a cumulative -90 (!!) over the past three games. That could be some kind of record.
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thedoper wrote:
CoolBreeze44 wrote:
thedoper wrote:
CoolBreeze44 wrote:The whole design of this rebuild is just insane. You can't build a roster like this and have anyone take you seriously. We keep going backward as a franchise. We should be relegated to the Spanish professional league.


The idea that Glen thought we could be innovators is what is funniest about this whole thing.

But we're not being innovative, we are following the Rockets blueprint without Harden. The copy is never as good as the original. I wish we were being innovative


We're never going to be innovative, thats the point. Those ideas start from the top and include hard decisions to make. We all know Glen will take too long to sign off on a coaching change. We cant get ahead of anything with him as an owner.

I gotcha Dope
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Q12543 wrote:
lipoli390 wrote:Here's my list of players, other than KAT, who I want to see from this point on in the season:

1. JMac
2. Edwards
3. Okogie
4. Nowell
5. Beasley
6. Vanderbilt
7. Naz Reid
8. Culver - although I'm losing patience with him

Those are the guys with talent who are also athletic and play hard. I have no interest in seeing DLO on the court anymore. And while I love Ricky, I'd prefer to move on from him.


The thing with DLO is that we absolutely need his shooting and scoring. But he has to do it within the flow of the offense and start making better decisions with his shots and passing. He's just playing lazy, sloppy basketball right now and it's terrible. I think he's something like a cumulative -90 (!!) over the past three games. That could be some kind of record.


You're right about what DLO needs to do to have some chance of providing positive value for the Wolves. But I just don't see that happening and I continue to see him as a net negative, which is what he's been throughout almost his entire 5-year career to date. Just to be clear, I'm not basing my issue with DLO on the last 5 games. I'm basing it on his last 5 years. I didn't like the deal that brought him here and I'm looking forward to the day when he's gone. Unfortunately, I don't think there's a team out there that will give us much for him - certainly nothing close to what we gave up to get him.
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lipoli390 wrote:
Q12543 wrote:
lipoli390 wrote:Here's my list of players, other than KAT, who I want to see from this point on in the season:

1. JMac
2. Edwards
3. Okogie
4. Nowell
5. Beasley
6. Vanderbilt
7. Naz Reid
8. Culver - although I'm losing patience with him

Those are the guys with talent who are also athletic and play hard. I have no interest in seeing DLO on the court anymore. And while I love Ricky, I'd prefer to move on from him.


The thing with DLO is that we absolutely need his shooting and scoring. But he has to do it within the flow of the offense and start making better decisions with his shots and passing. He's just playing lazy, sloppy basketball right now and it's terrible. I think he's something like a cumulative -90 (!!) over the past three games. That could be some kind of record.


You're right about what DLO needs to do to have some chance of providing positive value for the Wolves. But I just don't see that happening and I continue to see him as a net negative, which is what he's been throughout almost his entire 5-year career to date. Just to be clear, I'm not basing my issue with DLO on the last 5 games. I'm basing it on his last 5 years. I didn't like the deal that brought him here and I'm looking forward to the day when he's gone. Unfortunately, I don't think there's a team out there that will give us much for him - certainly nothing close to what we gave up to get him.


Dlo has been a +0 in minutes shared with Kat at least
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lipoli390 wrote:
Q12543 wrote:
lipoli390 wrote:Here's my list of players, other than KAT, who I want to see from this point on in the season:

1. JMac
2. Edwards
3. Okogie
4. Nowell
5. Beasley
6. Vanderbilt
7. Naz Reid
8. Culver - although I'm losing patience with him

Those are the guys with talent who are also athletic and play hard. I have no interest in seeing DLO on the court anymore. And while I love Ricky, I'd prefer to move on from him.


The thing with DLO is that we absolutely need his shooting and scoring. But he has to do it within the flow of the offense and start making better decisions with his shots and passing. He's just playing lazy, sloppy basketball right now and it's terrible. I think he's something like a cumulative -90 (!!) over the past three games. That could be some kind of record.


You're right about what DLO needs to do to have some chance of providing positive value for the Wolves. But I just don't see that happening and I continue to see him as a net negative, which is what he's been throughout almost his entire 5-year career to date. Just to be clear, I'm not basing my issue with DLO on the last 5 games. I'm basing it on his last 5 years. I didn't like the deal that brought him here and I'm looking forward to the day when he's gone. Unfortunately, I don't think there's a team out there that will give us much for him - certainly nothing close to what we gave up to get him.

Lip, this is truth. Thank you for stating it.
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Kevin Lynch is calling out the lack of size on the Wolves in the post game. Jim Peterson did the same during the game. Of course, they're just stating the obvious obvious to everyone w but Rosas and Ryan.
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lipoli390 wrote:
Q12543 wrote:
lipoli390 wrote:Here's my list of players, other than KAT, who I want to see from this point on in the season:

1. JMac
2. Edwards
3. Okogie
4. Nowell
5. Beasley
6. Vanderbilt
7. Naz Reid
8. Culver - although I'm losing patience with him

Those are the guys with talent who are also athletic and play hard. I have no interest in seeing DLO on the court anymore. And while I love Ricky, I'd prefer to move on from him.


The thing with DLO is that we absolutely need his shooting and scoring. But he has to do it within the flow of the offense and start making better decisions with his shots and passing. He's just playing lazy, sloppy basketball right now and it's terrible. I think he's something like a cumulative -90 (!!) over the past three games. That could be some kind of record.


You're right about what DLO needs to do to have some chance of providing positive value for the Wolves. But I just don't see that happening and I continue to see him as a net negative, which is what he's been throughout almost his entire 5-year career to date. Just to be clear, I'm not basing my issue with DLO on the last 5 games. I'm basing it on his last 5 years. I didn't like the deal that brought him here and I'm looking forward to the day when he's gone. Unfortunately, I don't think there's a team out there that will give us much for him - certainly nothing close to what we gave up to get him.


Understood on your views on DLO, but man, we had to rid ourselves of Wiggins. It's just unfortunate that we traded one chronic underachiever for another. Pick your poison I guess. My hope was that we could surround DLO with the right kinds of players (including Rubio) to help paper over his weaknesses and highlight his strengths. That obviously hasn't happened yet.
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What would it actually take for Glen to ok Rosas firing Ryan or Rosas getting canned? I cant see it happening until after KAT asks out.
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Somewhere along the way, Rosas and Ryan have confused position-less basketball with size-less basketball. Positions don't matter as much as they used to, but size still matters a lot.
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Q12543 wrote:
lipoli390 wrote:
Q12543 wrote:
lipoli390 wrote:Here's my list of players, other than KAT, who I want to see from this point on in the season:

1. JMac
2. Edwards
3. Okogie
4. Nowell
5. Beasley
6. Vanderbilt
7. Naz Reid
8. Culver - although I'm losing patience with him

Those are the guys with talent who are also athletic and play hard. I have no interest in seeing DLO on the court anymore. And while I love Ricky, I'd prefer to move on from him.


The thing with DLO is that we absolutely need his shooting and scoring. But he has to do it within the flow of the offense and start making better decisions with his shots and passing. He's just playing lazy, sloppy basketball right now and it's terrible. I think he's something like a cumulative -90 (!!) over the past three games. That could be some kind of record.


You're right about what DLO needs to do to have some chance of providing positive value for the Wolves. But I just don't see that happening and I continue to see him as a net negative, which is what he's been throughout almost his entire 5-year career to date. Just to be clear, I'm not basing my issue with DLO on the last 5 games. I'm basing it on his last 5 years. I didn't like the deal that brought him here and I'm looking forward to the day when he's gone. Unfortunately, I don't think there's a team out there that will give us much for him - certainly nothing close to what we gave up to get him.


Understood on your views on DLO, but man, we had to rid ourselves of Wiggins. It's just unfortunate that we traded one chronic underachiever for another. Pick your poison I guess. My hope was that we could surround DLO with the right kinds of players (including Rubio) to help paper over his weaknesses and highlight his strengths. That obviously hasn't happened yet.


I thought we should have dealt Wiggins for Batum and the Hornets 2nd round pick or something similar. Otherwise, we just needed to ride out his contract until it had value as an expiring one in its final year. Trading one underachiever for another one was a gamble and not worth the price the Warriors exacted from Rosas.
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