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monsterpile wrote:Coach Cal said Jamal Murry will be the highest scoring rookie this year and is VERY certain of it. At this point how much stock do you put in what Cal says?

Personally I put a little stock into what he says about his guys but I'm not going all in on anything either. I think he has put too many good players in the league to just dismiss what he says.

You mean Coach Cal was willing to go on TV and make bombastic comments? You're kidding.

monsterpile wrote:Coach Cal said Jamal Murry will be the highest scoring rookie this year and is VERY certain of it. At this point how much stock do you put in what Cal says?

Personally I put a little stock into what he says about his guys but I'm not going all in on anything either. I think he has put too many good players in the league to just dismiss what he says.

Coach Cal also reportedly said that Murray wants to play for the Wolves.

https://art19.com/shows/vertical/episodes/8bae3685-d89d-4860-ba1e-de8477a70041

Don't know if Woj's interview with Dunn was posted yet. I was a bit down on this kid's talent (shooting/age), but after listening to his interview I am amazed. What a story. Even if he doesn't become a star I am going to be rooting for this kid all the way. Would have no problems with the Wolves drafting him even if he can't shoot at first. I think his work ethic is top notch and has such character.

What a nice turn of events for this organization . Hearing about youngsters that like our coaches and actually want to come here. Thinks are looking up !
John Salley can suck it!

What a nice turn of events for this organization . Hearing about youngsters that like our coaches and actually want to come here. Thinks are looking up !
John Salley can suck it!

PorkChop wrote:What a nice turn of events for this organization . Hearing about youngsters that like our coaches and actually want to come here. Thinks are looking up !
John Salley can suck it!

I agree. That deserved a ditto! :)

Do you think any player, when working out for a team, asked that team to bring any offensive player they wanted to test his one-on-one defense against a really good NBA scorer? If Dunn or Hield so much as ASKED us to bring LaVine or Wiggins and test his defense, I'd draft him just for his attitude and priorities!

60WinTim wrote:

PorkChop wrote:What a nice turn of events for this organization . Hearing about youngsters that like our coaches and actually want to come here. Thinks are looking up !
John Salley can suck it!

I agree. That deserved a ditto! :)

Yeah it was so good he said it twice!

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/the-vertical-pod-with-woj--jonathan-givony-nba-draft-134521534.html

Interesting podcast with Woj and Givony. Here is a few things I gleaned.

Givony and Woj both agreed there is a bit of a trend towards team looking at older guys like Dunn because they can probably play right away and there is value in that cheap contract for 4 years. They both said various teams were not interested in waiting for a young guy to pan out. They said the Celtics want to get a vet and so do the Suns. They said the Sun and Sarver are looking to get into the playoffs and their GM might be worried about if he takes a raw guy like Chriss or Bender whether he will have a job if/when those guys become good. Givony said he thinks that's why guys like Brown and Bender are sliding is because teams aren't sure those guys can help right away.

He said Skal has been terrific in workouts but teams still worried about him translating his skill based on his struggles in college even though last summer he was terrific against all these other bigs that are going in the draft this year.

They plugged their live online draft coverage tomorrow night. That's probably what I will be watching since I don't have ESPN access. It sounds like it will be pretty good. Tom Crean coach at Indiana will be their college expert.

Givony said the Euro guys that a lot of media and fans probably assume are draft and stash guys want to come over right now. He said some are even international free agents so they don't even have a contract to hold them back. He said that may make things tricky for teams that have those multiple picks.

Drew who wants guys to say they will be challenged in workouts will likely find this interesting...They talked about how agents are withholding info dictating workouts but it's a bit of a two-way street. Teams aren't givin as much info to agents as agents need. He said some draft hopefuls are going to a one on none workout and teams are basically having them work out hard and often going against a recently retired NBA player that now is an assistant. So teams are still getting to see guys work out against a good player and Givony said some guys are struggling and it's a reason they are dropping.

They talked about how one of the things talked about in the next CBA is split contracts like in NHL and MLB so NBA teams would have rosters expanded so they can carry 17 guys and have 2 of them in the d-league. While in the d-league they would make something like 100k and if they come up to NBA they get a more typical salary. They said this would be appealing for players because in the d-league they get paid so little. They also said it may even attract some international guys because they don't always get minutes. Another thing they talked about that relates to this is how especially teams in Europe have more taller than ever and they also have financial issues. There isn't the big money for college players going there that there has been in the past.

monsterpile wrote:http://sports.yahoo.com/news/the-vertical-pod-with-woj--jonathan-givony-nba-draft-134521534.html

Interesting podcast with Woj and Givony. Here is a few things I gleaned.

Givony and Woj both agreed there is a bit of a trend towards team looking at older guys like Dunn because they can probably play right away and there is value in that cheap contract for 4 years. They both said various teams were not interested in waiting for a young guy to pan out. They said the Celtics want to get a vet and so do the Suns. They said the Sun and Sarver are looking to get into the playoffs and their GM might be worried about if he takes a raw guy like Chriss or Bender whether he will have a job if/when those guys become good. Givony said he thinks that's why guys like Brown and Bender are sliding is because teams aren't sure those guys can help right away.

He said Skal has been terrific in workouts but teams still worried about him translating his skill based on his struggles in college even though last summer he was terrific against all these other bigs that are going in the draft this year.

They plugged their live online draft coverage tomorrow night. That's probably what I will be watching since I don't have ESPN access. It sounds like it will be pretty good. Tom Crean coach at Indiana will be their college expert.

Givony said the Euro guys that a lot of media and fans probably assume are draft and stash guys want to come over right now. He said some are even international free agents so they don't even have a contract to hold them back. He said that may make things tricky for teams that have those multiple picks.

Drew who wants guys to say they will be challenged in workouts will likely find this interesting...They talked about how agents are withholding info dictating workouts but it's a bit of a two-way street. Teams aren't givin as much info to agents as agents need. He said some draft hopefuls are going to a one on none workout and teams are basically having them work out hard and often going against a recently retired NBA player that now is an assistant. So teams are still getting to see guys work out against a good player and Givony said some guys are struggling and it's a reason they are dropping.

They talked about how one of the things talked about in the next CBA is split contracts like in NHL and MLB so NBA teams would have rosters expanded so they can carry 17 guys and have 2 of them in the d-league. While in the d-league they would make something like 100k and if they come up to NBA they get a more typical salary. They said this would be appealing for players because in the d-league they get paid so little. They also said it may even attract some international guys because they don't always get minutes. Another thing they talked about that relates to this is how especially teams in Europe have more taller than ever and they also have financial issues. There isn't the big money for college players going there that there has been in the past.

I think their coverage will probably be more basketball related and less about the hype than ESPN. I like what they're doing there a lot.