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Carlos Danger wrote:

AbeVigodaLive wrote:

Stop. We can all see the game you're playing here.

- removing my "There might be a time and place for a good spanking... " to focus on my "inflammatory" use of the word "beating" is so disingenuous.

And that kind of stuff is creating 91% of the problem here. ;-)

Feel free to check the time stamps Columbo. Obviously if you edit a post after I quote your original, it's not going to be captured. What a stupid and petty thing to worry about anyhow. Dude - you are a button pusher. Back to my original point. Being a button pusher on the internet works fine. You can type whatever you want without concern/fear of force. But if we were in the same room, you would behave differently - I'm very confident of that. It's human nature. We have not evolved past that - sorry to break it to you.

bleedspeed177 wrote:Abe - That is a good question about the teaching environment. To me, it is about holding kids accountable for respecting teachers and other students. When this can't happen it can and will spread to other students which negatively impacts education overall. When you run into that kids you need to understand likely problems and have a plan to address them via engaging the parents and even engaging child protective services is serious. We need better laws to support this.

The real solution though is limiting kids being born into no-win situations. I think a deep statistical analysis of areas that would make the most impact would be needed and cost to address the problem.

Example: Children that are born of individuals that have parents that have committed certain crimes. Those individuals of parenting age could be offered shorter sentences based on birth control measures to avoid them creating a bad parenting environment.

AbeVigodaLive wrote:

Yeah. There's no easy answer here. At least in schools... ultimately, doesn't it come down to parents letting schools hold their kids accountable in a way?

All above my pay grade. So... my plan is to do my best to not raise knuckleheads and hope it lands and they have a leg up in life on all the knuckleheads out there.

I mean just being present and not a woefully or willingly terrible parent might be good enough... hopefully?

thedoper wrote:We're onto spanking now? This is a great thread.

On spanking, I dont think its that less kids are being spanked nowadays. Spanking only works so much. I think it is that more kids are associating their parent's former discipline as abuse. In my experience humans have an innate need to associate themselves as a victim, thereby positioning themselves as the opportunity to be the hero of their story. Because we're more comfortable then we've ever been as a species, we are needing to expand the definition of struggle so that the psychological tension remains.

bleedspeed177 wrote:

thedoper wrote:We're onto spanking now? This is a great thread.

On spanking, I dont think its that less kids are being spanked nowadays. Spanking only works so much. I think it is that more kids are associating their parent's former discipline as abuse. In my experience humans have an innate need to associate themselves as a victim, thereby positioning themselves as the opportunity to be the hero of their story. Because we're more comfortable then we've ever been as a species, we are needing to expand the definition of struggle so that the psychological tension remains.

Jordan Peterson would agree.

bleedspeed177 wrote:I am wondering if we need to reform laws around cases against the public sector. I think it would be wise to set caps for settlement offers and require verdicts for numbers over that amount. (aka civil trial with jury approval.)

thedoper wrote:
My wife is a big fan of his, she is constantly saying "thats what Jordan Peterson says" whenever I give my opinion. He must be spying on me.

thedoper wrote:We're onto spanking now? This is a great thread.

On spanking, I dont think its that less kids are being spanked nowadays. Spanking only works so much. I think it is that more kids are associating their parent's former discipline as abuse. In my experience humans have an innate need to associate themselves as a victim, thereby positioning themselves as the opportunity to be the hero of their story. Because we're more comfortable then we've ever been as a species, we are needing to expand the definition of struggle so that the psychological tension remains.