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KiwiMatt wrote:MIN receive - Josh Richardson, Bam Adebayo, Tyler Johnson and 2019 1st round pick (Top 10 protected).

MIA receive - Jimmy Butler and Gorgui Dieng.

Any deal with the Miami Heat needs to involve getting Richardson, Adebayo and their 2019 1st round pick. If we want to attached Dieng then we would have take back on of their bad contracts back to make salaries match. I'm not a fan of Waiters, Olynyk, Whiteside or Tyler Johnson and I doubt Dragic will be included. James Johnson is a versatile rotation player, but his contract is pretty much the same as Diengs. If I was to pick one out of the above I'd (reluctantly) pick Tyler Johnson as he fits the needs as a wing and is a better 3pt shooter than Waiters. Although he's incredibly over paid (18mil) compared to Waiters (11mil), it's only for two more years and after this season that contract would look pretty good for a team wanting to shed cap space at the trade deadline.

I'd prefer Lips deal of a straight swap of Butler for Richardson, Adebayo, Winslow and their 1st. Not need to involve Dieng for the sake of shedding his contract while taking on one of their bad ones, especially when Diengs value is down due to be under utilised last season.

Duke13 wrote:

KiwiMatt wrote:MIN receive - Josh Richardson, Bam Adebayo, Tyler Johnson and 2019 1st round pick (Top 10 protected).

MIA receive - Jimmy Butler and Gorgui Dieng.

Any deal with the Miami Heat needs to involve getting Richardson, Adebayo and their 2019 1st round pick. If we want to attached Dieng then we would have take back on of their bad contracts back to make salaries match. I'm not a fan of Waiters, Olynyk, Whiteside or Tyler Johnson and I doubt Dragic will be included. James Johnson is a versatile rotation player, but his contract is pretty much the same as Diengs. If I was to pick one out of the above I'd (reluctantly) pick Tyler Johnson as he fits the needs as a wing and is a better 3pt shooter than Waiters. Although he's incredibly over paid (18mil) compared to Waiters (11mil), it's only for two more years and after this season that contract would look pretty good for a team wanting to shed cap space at the trade deadline.



I'd prefer Lips deal of a straight swap of Butler for Richardson, Adebayo, Winslow and their 1st. Not need to involve Dieng for the sake of shedding his contract while taking on one of their bad ones, especially when Diengs value is down due to be under utilised last season.

Johnson is a better player then Dieng.

Duke13 wrote:

KiwiMatt wrote:MIN receive - Josh Richardson, Bam Adebayo, Tyler Johnson and 2019 1st round pick (Top 10 protected).

MIA receive - Jimmy Butler and Gorgui Dieng.

Any deal with the Miami Heat needs to involve getting Richardson, Adebayo and their 2019 1st round pick. If we want to attached Dieng then we would have take back on of their bad contracts back to make salaries match. I'm not a fan of Waiters, Olynyk, Whiteside or Tyler Johnson and I doubt Dragic will be included. James Johnson is a versatile rotation player, but his contract is pretty much the same as Diengs. If I was to pick one out of the above I'd (reluctantly) pick Tyler Johnson as he fits the needs as a wing and is a better 3pt shooter than Waiters. Although he's incredibly over paid (18mil) compared to Waiters (11mil), it's only for two more years and after this season that contract would look pretty good for a team wanting to shed cap space at the trade deadline.

I'd prefer Lips deal of a straight swap of Butler for Richardson, Adebayo, Winslow and their 1st. Not need to involve Dieng for the sake of shedding his contract while taking on one of their bad ones, especially when Diengs value is down due to be under utilised last season.

Johnson is a better player then Dieng.

TheFuture wrote:

Duke13 wrote:

KiwiMatt wrote:MIN receive - Josh Richardson, Bam Adebayo, Tyler Johnson and 2019 1st round pick (Top 10 protected).

MIA receive - Jimmy Butler and Gorgui Dieng.

Any deal with the Miami Heat needs to involve getting Richardson, Adebayo and their 2019 1st round pick. If we want to attached Dieng then we would have take back on of their bad contracts back to make salaries match. I'm not a fan of Waiters, Olynyk, Whiteside or Tyler Johnson and I doubt Dragic will be included. James Johnson is a versatile rotation player, but his contract is pretty much the same as Diengs. If I was to pick one out of the above I'd (reluctantly) pick Tyler Johnson as he fits the needs as a wing and is a better 3pt shooter than Waiters. Although he's incredibly over paid (18mil) compared to Waiters (11mil), it's only for two more years and after this season that contract would look pretty good for a team wanting to shed cap space at the trade deadline.

I'd prefer Lips deal of a straight swap of Butler for Richardson, Adebayo, Winslow and their 1st. Not need to involve Dieng for the sake of shedding his contract while taking on one of their bad ones, especially when Diengs value is down due to be under utilised last season.

Johnson is a better player then Dieng.

T.Johnson has a 3.2 mil trade kicker in his contract. Can't believe miami matched that. So no. He is not ever an option at 22 mil, IMO.

They also are not going to include both their promising wings or BAM the successor to the phased out Whiteside. It is one of Winslow or j rich, and I prefer j rich by a mile due to an already semi consistent offensive game, equal or better defense, and being locked into a contract already. Then dragic (here or elsewhere) and picks/any filler.

I prefer my trade just above. You have 5 wings locked in at 50 ish mil in a league that is dominated by wing players (Wiggins, jrich, Warren, okogie, KBD), and have to fill the of position next year and the pg position in 2 years (highly doubt teague opts out) with 25 -30ish mil depending on cap raise and 2 first round picks.

kekgeek1 wrote:

TheFuture wrote:

Duke13 wrote:

KiwiMatt wrote:MIN receive - Josh Richardson, Bam Adebayo, Tyler Johnson and 2019 1st round pick (Top 10 protected).

MIA receive - Jimmy Butler and Gorgui Dieng.

Any deal with the Miami Heat needs to involve getting Richardson, Adebayo and their 2019 1st round pick. If we want to attached Dieng then we would have take back on of their bad contracts back to make salaries match. I'm not a fan of Waiters, Olynyk, Whiteside or Tyler Johnson and I doubt Dragic will be included. James Johnson is a versatile rotation player, but his contract is pretty much the same as Diengs. If I was to pick one out of the above I'd (reluctantly) pick Tyler Johnson as he fits the needs as a wing and is a better 3pt shooter than Waiters. Although he's incredibly over paid (18mil) compared to Waiters (11mil), it's only for two more years and after this season that contract would look pretty good for a team wanting to shed cap space at the trade deadline.

I'd prefer Lips deal of a straight swap of Butler for Richardson, Adebayo, Winslow and their 1st. Not need to involve Dieng for the sake of shedding his contract while taking on one of their bad ones, especially when Diengs value is down due to be under utilised last season.

Johnson is a better player then Dieng.

T.Johnson has a 3.2 mil trade kicker in his contract. Can't believe miami matched that. So no. He is not ever an option at 22 mil, IMO.

They also are not going to include both their promising wings or BAM the successor to the phased out Whiteside. It is one of Winslow or j rich, and I prefer j rich by a mile due to an already semi consistent offensive game, equal or better defense, and being locked into a contract already. Then dragic (here or elsewhere) and picks/any filler.

I prefer my trade just above. You have 5 wings locked in at 50 ish mil in a league that is dominated by wing players (Wiggins, jrich, Warren, okogie, KBD), and have to fill the of position next year and the pg position in 2 years (highly doubt teague opts out) with 25 -30ish mil depending on cap raise and 2 first round picks.

That is 5 wings that none can shoot 3s.

Also still think there is a good shot Teague opts out. Teams have cap space this offseason and next offseason the money will be dried up again. So Teague might want one last decent paycheck

crazy-canuck wrote:

kekgeek1 wrote:

TheFuture wrote:

Duke13 wrote:

KiwiMatt wrote:MIN receive - Josh Richardson, Bam Adebayo, Tyler Johnson and 2019 1st round pick (Top 10 protected).

MIA receive - Jimmy Butler and Gorgui Dieng.

Any deal with the Miami Heat needs to involve getting Richardson, Adebayo and their 2019 1st round pick. If we want to attached Dieng then we would have take back on of their bad contracts back to make salaries match. I'm not a fan of Waiters, Olynyk, Whiteside or Tyler Johnson and I doubt Dragic will be included. James Johnson is a versatile rotation player, but his contract is pretty much the same as Diengs. If I was to pick one out of the above I'd (reluctantly) pick Tyler Johnson as he fits the needs as a wing and is a better 3pt shooter than Waiters. Although he's incredibly over paid (18mil) compared to Waiters (11mil), it's only for two more years and after this season that contract would look pretty good for a team wanting to shed cap space at the trade deadline.

I'd prefer Lips deal of a straight swap of Butler for Richardson, Adebayo, Winslow and their 1st. Not need to involve Dieng for the sake of shedding his contract while taking on one of their bad ones, especially when Diengs value is down due to be under utilised last season.

Johnson is a better player then Dieng.

T.Johnson has a 3.2 mil trade kicker in his contract. Can't believe miami matched that. So no. He is not ever an option at 22 mil, IMO.

They also are not going to include both their promising wings or BAM the successor to the phased out Whiteside. It is one of Winslow or j rich, and I prefer j rich by a mile due to an already semi consistent offensive game, equal or better defense, and being locked into a contract already. Then dragic (here or elsewhere) and picks/any filler.

I prefer my trade just above. You have 5 wings locked in at 50 ish mil in a league that is dominated by wing players (Wiggins, jrich, Warren, okogie, KBD), and have to fill the of position next year and the pg position in 2 years (highly doubt teague opts out) with 25 -30ish mil depending on cap raise and 2 first round picks.

That is 5 wings that none can shoot 3s.

Also still think there is a good shot Teague opts out. Teams have cap space this offseason and next offseason the money will be dried up again. So Teague might want one last decent paycheck

Hes not getting 20 mill per year from another team if he opts out. Only reason he would leave is because he's also grown tired of this organization.

TheFuture wrote:Miami: Butler, Troy Daniels, Sun's 2nd

Kings: Dieng, Miami 2019 first, Wolves 2019 2nd

Suns: Dragic

Wolves: J. Richardson, Warren, WCS

Get it done Thibs!

Q12543 wrote:Yeah, Teague is one of the guys that could weigh our cap space down if he opts in, but Kek makes a good point that while he probably won't get a $20M/year deal, he may be at the stage in his career that he is more interested in a longer contract. A good team that already has a couple stars locked in may just need an average starting vet PG like Teague.