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TheGrey08 wrote:Fair points. Although I thought Reiff was paid a lot for a guy who was mostly known as a RT to then be shifting to LT for the Vikings, but they could do far worse so it's hard to complain about having him. Rudy's deal was new last year. He's due 9.45, 9.45, 10.25 and 11.65m the next 4 seasons so it's not really that end loaded.

I am really glad and hopefully with their stash of draft picks though and I hope they either trade Harris for a 3rd+ or lock him up for sub 10m per (he's currently 1 of 2 SS making over an avg of 6.2m per) and maybe a Reiff restructure.

Apparently Hunter signed a restructured deal today too, but there are no details about it yet.

Actually Grey Reiff was drafted as a LT and was there till the last year with the Lions when they drafted their guy and moved him to RT where he wasn't as good.

monsterpile wrote:

TheGrey08 wrote:Fair points. Although I thought Reiff was paid a lot for a guy who was mostly known as a RT to then be shifting to LT for the Vikings, but they could do far worse so it's hard to complain about having him. Rudy's deal was new last year. He's due 9.45, 9.45, 10.25 and 11.65m the next 4 seasons so it's not really that end loaded.

I am really glad and hopefully with their stash of draft picks though and I hope they either trade Harris for a 3rd+ or lock him up for sub 10m per (he's currently 1 of 2 SS making over an avg of 6.2m per) and maybe a Reiff restructure.

Apparently Hunter signed a restructured deal today too, but there are no details about it yet.

Actually Grey Reiff was drafted as a LT and was there till the last year with the Lions when they drafted their guy and moved him to RT where he wasn't as good.

Interesting, thought it was the other way around lol. Thanks for the correction.

Hunter's restructure saves the team 6 mill this year and adds 2m to each of his next 3 seasons. Puts them around 12m before signing draft picks.
https://twitter.com/GoesslingStrib/status/1241392765235232769

Curious what they use the remaining cap on. Hopefully use that leftover savings on CB/OL. Would help if they re-sign Harris to a long term deal and drop his cap figure. I'd imagine that would save them 3m+ this year too.

Pipe dream would be to lower Harris' cap hit by 3-4m, reduce Reiff by 3m+ and then end up with a solid CB and either DE or OL via free agency. savings 3m from each of their figures this year would put them in the 18m before draft picks.

TheGrey08 wrote:Hunter's restructure saves the team 6 mill this year and adds 2m to each of his next 3 seasons. Puts them around 12m before signing draft picks.
https://twitter.com/GoesslingStrib/status/1241392765235232769

Curious what they use the remaining cap on. Hopefully use that leftover savings on CB/OL. Would help if they re-sign Harris to a long term deal and drop his cap figure. I'd imagine that would save them 3m+ this year too.

Pipe dream would be to lower Harris' cap hit by 3-4m, reduce Reiff by 3m+ and then end up with a solid CB and either DE or OL via free agency. savings 3m from each of their figures this year would put them in the 18m before draft picks.

It turns out Kline's 1.8 million base wasn't guaranteed after all so that move makes more sense. Saved them over 3 million by cutting him so that gets them more like 14 million before picks etc.

I don't remember if I said this before but someone asked Wolfson after the Vikings releasing Kline what his take was and Wolfson was Really surprised too but pondered if maybe the concussions were a factor. I had forgotten about that but he had 2 last season and I remember commenting on this forum worrying about his career, long term health (most important) and obviously his effectiveness and viability going forward as a Viking.

Treadwell signs with the Falcons. Man this team is screwed and this offseason has been a failure.

I can't help cheer for Treadwell the guy seemed to get a lot of hate. Seems like a decent dude that worked hard but never could get it to translate on the field. Turns 25 in June seems like a guy worth taking a flyer on. Meanwhile the Vikings have other guys in more interested in seeing like Alexander Hollins who hauled in twice as many catches and over 3x as many yards as a rookie than Treadwell did. Lol #lowbar

monsterpile wrote:Treadwell signs with the Falcons. Man this team is screwed and this offseason has been a failure.

I can't help cheer for Treadwell the guy seemed to get a lot of hate. Seems like a decent dude that worked hard but never could get it to translate on the field. Turns 25 in June seems like a guy worth taking a flyer on. Meanwhile the Vikings have other guys in more interested in seeing like Alexander Hollins who hauled in twice as many catches and over 3x as many yards as a rookie than Treadwell did. Lol #lowbar

They are seemingly stuck handing over some starting positions to Rookies/FA's or second year guys. 5-6 wins might be optimistic unless they perform miracles on hitting the draft picks and other guys outperform.

Obviously this isn't based on letting Treadwell go again, just the overall offseason. I was looking at the roster and depth chart, no bueno. I agree somewhat with whoever said the extension of Cousins now looks even more strange. I'm even more pro-Cousins then most guys, but I acknowledge to contend for a superbowl the running game and defense have to be top 5.

They could almost go QB in the draft, except I am not confident myself on any of the guys where the Vikes are picking either. Longer term project guy in the 3rd or 4th maybe? IDK.

Spielman has been long overdue to have been replaced in my opinion, even if I agree with a lot of what he has done. Some moves have been blatantly horrific like the Bradford trade (1st rounder for a guy who the Eagles were benching which in turn could have been Mahomes or Watson the next year :cry: ).

WolvesFan21 wrote:

monsterpile wrote:Treadwell signs with the Falcons. Man this team is screwed and this offseason has been a failure.

I can't help cheer for Treadwell the guy seemed to get a lot of hate. Seems like a decent dude that worked hard but never could get it to translate on the field. Turns 25 in June seems like a guy worth taking a flyer on. Meanwhile the Vikings have other guys in more interested in seeing like Alexander Hollins who hauled in twice as many catches and over 3x as many yards as a rookie than Treadwell did. Lol #lowbar

They are seemingly stuck handing over some starting positions to Rookies/FA's or second year guys. 5-6 wins might be optimistic unless they perform miracles on hitting the draft picks and other guys outperform.

Obviously this isn't based on letting Treadwell go again, just the overall offseason. I was looking at the roster and depth chart, no bueno. I agree somewhat with whoever said the extension of Cousins now looks even more strange. I'm even more pro-Cousins then most guys, but I acknowledge to contend for a superbowl the running game and defense have to be top 5.

They could almost go QB in the draft, except I am not confident myself on any of the guys where the Vikes are picking either. Longer term project guy in the 3rd or 4th maybe? IDK.

Spielman has been long overdue to have been replaced in my opinion, even if I agree with a lot of what he has done. Some moves have been blatantly horrific like the Bradford trade (1st rounder for a guy who the Eagles were benching which in turn could have been Mahomes or Watson the next year :cry: ).

There was someone on Twitter that outlined the rookies each year the last few seasons that played right away. It was a pretty good showing. The point was also made the Vikings have quite a bit of draft capital so that might translate into more contributions right away.

The thing about this team is it has some really good players on it. Cook and Mattison Thielen Rudolph Irv Smith is a pretty good group of offensive players. On defense Hunter is a stud Smith is still pretty good and Pierce is a likely upgrade. There are clearly some holes but there is talent on this roster and Cousins doesn't suck at QB. I think most people are most worried about the defensive backfield and rightfully so. I'm not just gonna be like "Zimmer is a genius he is gonna fix this" or whatever but that's his side of the ball. I think it's possible They figure it out enough to not suck. The thing is though it seems like in the past it took guys a while to figure out how to play in his scheme. Well Holton Hill seemed to do just fine as a rookie so...let's see there is lots of time to add to this roster.

I am pretty happy with Speilman. He and Zimmer seem to be on the same page and they do a pretty good job of developing guys.

I think this offseason they planned to rebuild the defense and stay status quo on offense. Signing Cousins to an extension made sense when they removed the no-trade clause. I liked that they tagged Anthony Harris but worry we will overpay him. I hope we can trade him. I would take Eric Reid for 4M before Anthony Harris for 11M. I don't think they planned to trade Diggs, but got an offer the couldn't refuse. I think Monster nailed it on releasing Kline. It was more of a longterm health concern. I liked the Pierce signing. I am surprised they have not gone towards more rebuilding on offense and looked at cutting Rieff and Rudoph, but they really don't need the money. I think we sign Harris to a longterm contract and then find a veteran CB for about 5M. I would love to see us draft a QB. Give me Jordon Love or Jalen Hurt.

bleedspeed177 wrote:I am pretty happy with Speilman. He and Zimmer seem to be on the same page and they do a pretty good job of developing guys.

I think this offseason they planned to rebuild the defense and stay status quo on offense. Signing Cousins to an extension made sense when they removed the no-trade clause. I liked that they tagged Anthony Harris but worry we will overpay him. I hope we can trade him. I would take Eric Reid for 4M before Anthony Harris for 11M. I don't think they planned to trade Diggs, but got an offer the couldn't refuse. I think Monster nailed it on releasing Kline. It was more of a longterm health concern. I liked the Pierce signing. I am surprised they have not gone towards more rebuilding on offense and looked at cutting Rieff and Rudoph, but they really don't need the money. I think we sign Harris to a longterm contract and then find a veteran CB for about 5M. I would love to see us draft a QB. Give me Jordon Love or Jalen Hurt.

I think they think the money they are paying Rudolph is market value. His cap number is over 8 million and he has over 5 of guaranteed money if they let him go so... that wasn't going to happen and unless he really drops off he probably will be here at least next season too. They saved money dealing Diggs it makes a lot of sense to keep another pretty good player in Rudolph around on offense. Just for fun compare that to Jimmy Graham who got 2 years 16 million and somewhat hilariously...a no trade clause...from the Bears. I'm biased although I've been a graham fan too but I think Rudolph is likely a better all around player at this point and likely to continue that trend as he isn't a guy that relies on Wild athletic ability.

Reiff...we will see but again LT don't come cheap...they need another option before they let him go. Interesting we haven't gotten contract details about Rashod Hill yet.

One thing to consider when you think about drafting a young QB is that if they sit for a couple years it's sort of wasting the asset of drafting a young guy...having them cheap for a few years. I'm not saying you don't draft a guy because of that and I don't think the Vikings are completely married long term to Cousins but you probably would want to have that higher drafted QB play sometime...which makes things interesting.

I was thinking Rudolph more for his age and Rieff as more you start a young guy to groom. If you draft a QB early you can plan to sit him behind Cousins and let the OL get experience and then in 2021 you would trade Cousins and start your second-year QB. Plan on your top 3 of your top 6 picks starting.

CB/WR/LG/??