Minnesota Sports Forum

Camden wrote:I wouldn't consider some of these "dream" off-seasons, respectfully. I believe D'Angelo Russell would indeed be easy to move if the Timberwolves chose to do so, especially as an expiring contract. However, what would the return for him be that objectively makes them a better team? Personally, I don't see it, and I think he is far more valuable to this team than any other. In general, I have little interest in breaking up the nucleus of this team after their 46-win season. We're heading in the right direction as is.

I also don't see how giving mid-level money (or more) to a below average starting point guard option in Tyus Jones actually boosts this team in any aspect. That would be a mistake. And while I think the Wolves have to make at least one addition to the frontcourt, I think they need to be very precise in who that player is with regards to age, contract, and team fit. For instance, I think Myles Turner is a quality big in this league, but I no longer think he'd be a great fit in Minnesota for a handful of reasons.

I think my "dream" scenario would unfold as follows:

- Minnesota trades G Malik Beasley and the No. 19 overall pick to Orlando for F Jonathan Isaac and the No. 35 overall pick.

- Minnesota trades the No. 35 (via Orlando via Indiana) and No. 40 overall picks to Milwaukee for the No. 24 overall pick -- 1030/930 value, respectively, according to Kevin Pelton's draft pick trade value chart.

- Minnesota selects one of the following with the No. 24 overall pick (via Milwaukee): Duke G/F Wendell Moore Jr., Ohio State F E.J. Liddell, or Marquette F Justin Lewis.

- Minnesota selects Fortitudo Bologna G/F Gabriele Procida with the No. 50 overall pick (via Denver) with the intent to let him continue developing in Italy.

- Minnesota signs free agent C Isaiah Hartenstein to a three-year, $21-million deal (UFA in 2025).

- Minnesota signs free agent G/F Danuel House to a one-year, $1.5-million deal (UFA in 2023).

- Minnesota re-signs F Taurean Prince to a two-year, $18-million deal (UFA in 2024).

- Minnesota re-signs G McKinley Wright on a two-way deal.

- Minnesota exercises team options on G Jaylen Nowell and C Naz Reid for the 2022-23 season. Both players would be unrestricted free agents in 2023.

- Minnesota signs C Karl-Anthony Towns to a four-year, $210.9-million super-max extension (UFA in 2028).

- Jonathan Isaac's contract has $52.2-million remaining over the next three seasons. He has $16-million guaranteed in 2022-23, $7.6-million guaranteed in 2023-24, and zero guaranteed money in 2024-25.

Proposed Depth Chart:

1: Patrick Beverley / Jordan McLaughlin / McKinley Wright
2: D'Angelo Russell / Jaylen Nowell / Wendell Moore Jr. / Leandro Bolmaro
3: Anthony Edwards / Jaden McDaniels / Taurean Prince / Danuel House
4: Jonathan Isaac / Jarred Vanderbilt
5: Karl-Anthony Towns / Isaiah Hartenstein / Naz Reid

In my off-season, the Timberwolves would have kept the nucleus of the team together, bolstered their frontcourt, and improved their second unit across the board. They'd remain approximately $10-million below the luxury tax threshold and would once again be positioned to challenge for a top-six seed in the Western Conference next season.

monsterpile wrote:If we are going dream scenario I also want to extend Russell for something like a 3 years 45 million.

kekgeek1 wrote:It might not be fair but I don't know if Johnathan Isaacs off the court beliefs would fit in with this specific locker room

Camden wrote:I wouldn't consider some of these "dream" off-seasons, respectfully. I believe D'Angelo Russell would indeed be easy to move if the Timberwolves chose to do so, especially as an expiring contract. However, what would the return for him be that objectively makes them a better team? Personally, I don't see it, and I think he is far more valuable to this team than any other. In general, I have little interest in breaking up the nucleus of this team after their 46-win season. We're heading in the right direction as is.

I also don't see how giving mid-level money (or more) to a below average starting point guard option in Tyus Jones actually boosts this team in any aspect. That would be a mistake. And while I think the Wolves have to make at least one addition to the frontcourt, I think they need to be very precise in who that player is with regards to age, contract, and team fit. For instance, I think Myles Turner is a quality big in this league, but I no longer think he'd be a great fit in Minnesota for a handful of reasons.

I think my "dream" scenario would unfold as follows:

- Minnesota trades G Malik Beasley and the No. 19 overall pick to Orlando for F Jonathan Isaac and the No. 35 overall pick.

- Minnesota trades the No. 35 (via Orlando via Indiana) and No. 40 overall picks to Milwaukee for the No. 24 overall pick -- 1030/930 value, respectively, according to Kevin Pelton's draft pick trade value chart.

- Minnesota selects one of the following with the No. 24 overall pick (via Milwaukee): Duke G/F Wendell Moore Jr., Ohio State F E.J. Liddell, or Marquette F Justin Lewis.

- Minnesota selects Fortitudo Bologna G/F Gabriele Procida with the No. 50 overall pick (via Denver) with the intent to let him continue developing in Italy.

- Minnesota signs free agent C Isaiah Hartenstein to a three-year, $21-million deal (UFA in 2025).

- Minnesota signs free agent G/F Danuel House to a one-year, $1.5-million deal (UFA in 2023).

- Minnesota re-signs F Taurean Prince to a two-year, $18-million deal (UFA in 2024).

- Minnesota re-signs G McKinley Wright on a two-way deal.

- Minnesota exercises team options on G Jaylen Nowell and C Naz Reid for the 2022-23 season. Both players would be unrestricted free agents in 2023.

- Minnesota signs C Karl-Anthony Towns to a four-year, $210.9-million super-max extension (UFA in 2028).

- Jonathan Isaac's contract has $52.2-million remaining over the next three seasons. He has $16-million guaranteed in 2022-23, $7.6-million guaranteed in 2023-24, and zero guaranteed money in 2024-25.

Proposed Depth Chart:

1: Patrick Beverley / Jordan McLaughlin / McKinley Wright
2: D'Angelo Russell / Jaylen Nowell / Wendell Moore Jr. / Leandro Bolmaro
3: Anthony Edwards / Jaden McDaniels / Taurean Prince / Danuel House
4: Jonathan Isaac / Jarred Vanderbilt
5: Karl-Anthony Towns / Isaiah Hartenstein / Naz Reid

In my off-season, the Timberwolves would have kept the nucleus of the team together, bolstered their frontcourt, and improved their second unit across the board. They'd remain approximately $10-million below the luxury tax threshold and would once again be positioned to challenge for a top-six seed in the Western Conference next season.

Camden wrote:

kekgeek1 wrote:It might not be fair but I don't know if Johnathan Isaacs off the court beliefs would fit in with this specific locker room

Obviously, I can't say definitively one way or the other, but I do think we have a group of accepting individuals and overall free-thinkers. I don't think there would be any locker room issues there.

kekgeek1 wrote:

Camden wrote:I wouldn't consider some of these "dream" off-seasons, respectfully. I believe D'Angelo Russell would indeed be easy to move if the Timberwolves chose to do so, especially as an expiring contract. However, what would the return for him be that objectively makes them a better team? Personally, I don't see it, and I think he is far more valuable to this team than any other. In general, I have little interest in breaking up the nucleus of this team after their 46-win season. We're heading in the right direction as is.

I also don't see how giving mid-level money (or more) to a below average starting point guard option in Tyus Jones actually boosts this team in any aspect. That would be a mistake. And while I think the Wolves have to make at least one addition to the frontcourt, I think they need to be very precise in who that player is with regards to age, contract, and team fit. For instance, I think Myles Turner is a quality big in this league, but I no longer think he'd be a great fit in Minnesota for a handful of reasons.

I think my "dream" scenario would unfold as follows:

- Minnesota trades G Malik Beasley and the No. 19 overall pick to Orlando for F Jonathan Isaac and the No. 35 overall pick.

- Minnesota trades the No. 35 (via Orlando via Indiana) and No. 40 overall picks to Milwaukee for the No. 24 overall pick -- 1030/930 value, respectively, according to Kevin Pelton's draft pick trade value chart.

- Minnesota selects one of the following with the No. 24 overall pick (via Milwaukee): Duke G/F Wendell Moore Jr., Ohio State F E.J. Liddell, or Marquette F Justin Lewis.

- Minnesota selects Fortitudo Bologna G/F Gabriele Procida with the No. 50 overall pick (via Denver) with the intent to let him continue developing in Italy.

- Minnesota signs free agent C Isaiah Hartenstein to a three-year, $21-million deal (UFA in 2025).

- Minnesota signs free agent G/F Danuel House to a one-year, $1.5-million deal (UFA in 2023).

- Minnesota re-signs F Taurean Prince to a two-year, $18-million deal (UFA in 2024).

- Minnesota re-signs G McKinley Wright on a two-way deal.

- Minnesota exercises team options on G Jaylen Nowell and C Naz Reid for the 2022-23 season. Both players would be unrestricted free agents in 2023.

- Minnesota signs C Karl-Anthony Towns to a four-year, $210.9-million super-max extension (UFA in 2028).

- Jonathan Isaac's contract has $52.2-million remaining over the next three seasons. He has $16-million guaranteed in 2022-23, $7.6-million guaranteed in 2023-24, and zero guaranteed money in 2024-25.

Proposed Depth Chart:

1: Patrick Beverley / Jordan McLaughlin / McKinley Wright
2: D'Angelo Russell / Jaylen Nowell / Wendell Moore Jr. / Leandro Bolmaro
3: Anthony Edwards / Jaden McDaniels / Taurean Prince / Danuel House
4: Jonathan Isaac / Jarred Vanderbilt
5: Karl-Anthony Towns / Isaiah Hartenstein / Naz Reid

In my off-season, the Timberwolves would have kept the nucleus of the team together, bolstered their frontcourt, and improved their second unit across the board. They'd remain approximately $10-million below the luxury tax threshold and would once again be positioned to challenge for a top-six seed in the Western Conference next season.

It might not be fair but I don't know if Johnathan Isaacs off the court beliefs would fit in with this specific locker room

Q-was-here wrote:

Camden wrote:

kekgeek1 wrote:It might not be fair but I don't know if Johnathan Isaacs off the court beliefs would fit in with this specific locker room

Obviously, I can't say definitively one way or the other, but I do think we have a group of accepting individuals and overall free-thinkers. I don't think there would be any locker room issues there.

Nevermind his off court beliefs. I'm more concerned about his lack of being ON the court. Has he played at all in two years!? I just can't see either Gupta or a newly hired GM making that kind of move.

I like most everything else Cam proposed.