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Q12543 wrote:

FNG wrote:

Q12543 wrote:

FNG wrote:

monsterpile wrote:Here is the roster. No Jarrett Culver but his brother is playing. Also interesting they have McDaniels listed at 6'10". It will be interesting to see if that's the case when is the NBA as they have to actually list guys by an actual measurement now. Maybe he grew since the draft process last year.

https://www.nba.com/timberwolves/timberwolves-announce-mgm-resorts-nba-summer-league-2021-las-vegas-roster

The Wolves listed Jaden at 6-9 last year, but I saw him at 6-10 in most of his draft profiles.

I'm perhaps not as high on Bolmaro a some others, but I still find it odd that he is not playing summer league.

He's playing in the Olympics with Argentina, so I can see why he'd probably need a break after that.

Bolmaro is a 20-year-old kid who played 7 minutes the past two games in Japan before Argentina was eliminated. Does he really need a break? Would anyone here have passed up a chance to play in an NBA summer league at age 20 just because we had warmed the bench for a week in Japan? I don't know if this was Rosas's decision or Bolmaro's, but it seems quite odd to me.

The summer league is a nice event and all, but Bolmaro was a regular rotational player in the highest level of European ball for his club over the past year. He has seen tougher competition and more rigorous training methods than whatever will happen in summer league. His club season ended in mid-June and shortly thereafter he started training and playing games with his national team. Compare this to someone like McDaniels, who hasn't played a high-level game since mid-May. Big difference.

While true... is there a transition to the NBA game for young international players?

AbeVigodaLive wrote:

Q12543 wrote:

FNG wrote:

Q12543 wrote:

FNG wrote:

monsterpile wrote:Here is the roster. No Jarrett Culver but his brother is playing. Also interesting they have McDaniels listed at 6'10". It will be interesting to see if that's the case when is the NBA as they have to actually list guys by an actual measurement now. Maybe he grew since the draft process last year.

https://www.nba.com/timberwolves/timberwolves-announce-mgm-resorts-nba-summer-league-2021-las-vegas-roster

The Wolves listed Jaden at 6-9 last year, but I saw him at 6-10 in most of his draft profiles.

I'm perhaps not as high on Bolmaro a some others, but I still find it odd that he is not playing summer league.

He's playing in the Olympics with Argentina, so I can see why he'd probably need a break after that.

Bolmaro is a 20-year-old kid who played 7 minutes the past two games in Japan before Argentina was eliminated. Does he really need a break? Would anyone here have passed up a chance to play in an NBA summer league at age 20 just because we had warmed the bench for a week in Japan? I don't know if this was Rosas's decision or Bolmaro's, but it seems quite odd to me.

The summer league is a nice event and all, but Bolmaro was a regular rotational player in the highest level of European ball for his club over the past year. He has seen tougher competition and more rigorous training methods than whatever will happen in summer league. His club season ended in mid-June and shortly thereafter he started training and playing games with his national team. Compare this to someone like McDaniels, who hasn't played a high-level game since mid-May. Big difference.

While true... is there a transition to the NBA game for young international players?

I suppose, but that's what pre-season is for. And he'll see far more NBA talent there than in summer league. If he had most of the summer off like McDaniels, Nowell, etc., I would absolutely be banging the drum for him to come over.

FNG wrote:

Q12543 wrote:

FNG wrote:

monsterpile wrote:Here is the roster. No Jarrett Culver but his brother is playing. Also interesting they have McDaniels listed at 6'10". It will be interesting to see if that's the case when is the NBA as they have to actually list guys by an actual measurement now. Maybe he grew since the draft process last year.

https://www.nba.com/timberwolves/timberwolves-announce-mgm-resorts-nba-summer-league-2021-las-vegas-roster

The Wolves listed Jaden at 6-9 last year, but I saw him at 6-10 in most of his draft profiles.

I'm perhaps not as high on Bolmaro a some others, but I still find it odd that he is not playing summer league.

He's playing in the Olympics with Argentina, so I can see why he'd probably need a break after that.

Bolmaro is a 20-year-old kid who played 7 minutes the past two games in Japan before Argentina was eliminated. Does he really need a break? Would anyone here have passed up a chance to play in an NBA summer league at age 20 just because we had warmed the bench for a week in Japan? I don't know if this was Rosas's decision or Bolmaro's, but it seems quite odd to me.

It's not just games (73) it's also practices. He has been going mostly non stop with little breaks since Barca's first game in September but who knows when their training camp started. Their season ended the middle of June and my guess is a couple weeks later he was practicing with Argentina. Idk of it's the same now but I know from what I have read and heard practices are basically Chicago Bulls Thibs level of stuff over there.

I honestly never thought that Bolmaro would play in SL. Sure it's just a few games but a mental break might be nice for a guy that's been preparing for high level competitive games for months now. Also it's worth remembering that Priginoni is his national team coach so my guess is that if he needs to take some time to take a break from everything before training camp starts in a few weeks great. Also one benefit for guys playing in SL is because they haven't played games for months. That won't be Bolmaro he should be ready to go.

I guess I'm just wired differently than Bolmaro, if indeed it was his decision to skip summer league (I guess we really don't know). I get that he has been involved in practices even though he hasn't had much game time, but I really hope guys like Nowell and McDaniels haven't spent the offseason in their barcaloungers. We see video of grueling summer workouts some NBA players put themselves through, and I would argue some of those might be more intense than Argentina's practices. Who knows? My point is this would have been a chance for him to show the Wolves what he's got...that is, if he actually intends to come over (he's been quite evasive about that). If he does join the team, I don't expect that he will see much court time in pre-season. In contrast, summer league would have been a chance for him to get 25 MPG...something he hasn't had a chance to do during the Olympics and frankly for much of his International career.

I hear you guys defending his decision, but it doesn't resonate with me.

FNG wrote:I guess I'm just wired differently than Bolmaro, if indeed it was his decision to skip summer league (I guess we really don't know). I get that he has been involved in practices even though he hasn't had much game time, but I really hope guys like Nowell and McDaniels haven't spent the offseason in their barcaloungers. We see video of grueling summer workouts some NBA players put themselves through, and I would argue some of those might be more intense than Argentina's practices. Who knows? My point is this would have been a chance for him to show the Wolves what he's got...that is, if he actually intends to come over (he's been quite evasive about that). If he does join the team, I don't expect that he will see much court time in pre-season. In contrast, summer league would have been a chance for him to get 25 MPG...something he hasn't had a chance to do during the Olympics and frankly for much of his International career.

I hear you guys defending his decision, but it doesn't resonate with me.

Have you ever played a 60 game season?

I would argue that it's not in Leandro Bolmaro's or the Minnesota Timberwolves' best interests for him to come over this off-season. He showed improvement last year overseas, but he's still quite raw and could use another tuneup season before making the transition to the NBA. As for the Wolves, they could very much utilize the money allocated to him and the roster spot to make the 2021-2022 club better. It's likely Bolmaro won't be in the rotation so he'll either be at the end of the bench or in the G-League developing his game. Why not allow him to develop his game at home on someone else's dime? Next summer, Minnesota has a number of expiring contracts -- roster spots and more space under the luxury tax -- and open reserve wing minutes that it would be much better timing to bring him over. That's just my take. The front office likely disagrees with me, though.

Camden0916 wrote:I would argue that it's not in Leandro Bolmaro's or the Minnesota Timberwolves' best interests for him to come over this off-season. He showed improvement last year overseas, but he's still quite raw and could use another tuneup season before making the transition to the NBA. As for the Wolves, they could very much utilize the money allocated to him and the roster spot to make the 2021-2022 club better. It's likely Bolmaro won't be in the rotation so he'll either be at the end of the bench or in the G-League developing his game. Why not allow him to develop his game at home on someone else's dime? Next summer, Minnesota has a number of expiring contracts -- roster spots and more space under the luxury tax -- and open reserve wing minutes that it would be much better timing to bring him over. That's just my take. The front office likely disagrees with me, though.

You make a good case I don't disagree with this logic at all.

Honesty I would be fine if he stayed in Europe another year. I think the fact that McLaughlin is the backup PG and they moved Rubio means they are going to give him an opportunity to play at least some if nothing else in case of injury. He is at the very least a guy with theoretical combo guard skills. There are other guys like Nowell that will also get a shot playing PG too (as well as probably Edwards handling the ball next to another guard) but there is an opportunity for Bolmaro to get some minutes this season. Only time will tell if he is up to the task if he comes over.

Also Bolmaro is from Argentina so Spain isn't exactly home. :)

Camden wrote:I would argue that it's not in Leandro Bolmaro's or the Minnesota Timberwolves' best interests for him to come over this off-season. He showed improvement last year overseas, but he's still quite raw and could use another tuneup season before making the transition to the NBA. As for the Wolves, they could very much utilize the money allocated to him and the roster spot to make the 2021-2022 club better. It's likely Bolmaro won't be in the rotation so he'll either be at the end of the bench or in the G-League developing his game. Why not allow him to develop his game at home on someone else's dime? Next summer, Minnesota has a number of expiring contracts -- roster spots and more space under the luxury tax -- and open reserve wing minutes that it would be much better timing to bring him over. That's just my take. The front office likely disagrees with me, though.

I agree with your take. Waiting a year on Bolmaro would keep a roster spot open and free up an additional $2.3M to pursue one of the remaining free agents or provide more financial flexibility for a sign-and-trade this summer.

lipoli390 wrote:

Camden wrote:I would argue that it's not in Leandro Bolmaro's or the Minnesota Timberwolves' best interests for him to come over this off-season. He showed improvement last year overseas, but he's still quite raw and could use another tuneup season before making the transition to the NBA. As for the Wolves, they could very much utilize the money allocated to him and the roster spot to make the 2021-2022 club better. It's likely Bolmaro won't be in the rotation so he'll either be at the end of the bench or in the G-League developing his game. Why not allow him to develop his game at home on someone else's dime? Next summer, Minnesota has a number of expiring contracts -- roster spots and more space under the luxury tax -- and open reserve wing minutes that it would be much better timing to bring him over. That's just my take. The front office likely disagrees with me, though.

I agree with your take. Waiting a year on Bolmaro would keep a roster spot open and free up an additional $2.3M to pursue one of the remaining free agents or provide more financial flexibility for a sign-and-trade this summer.

I would have disagreed with this a couple months ago, but his play tailed off the longer his club season dragged on and he was a total nonfactor in the Olympics.

Yeah, include me in the group that would prefer to see Bolmaro wait a year. I haven't thought for some time that he would be a rotation player this season, so let's see if he can develop more overseas.

While Jaden and Nowell are a focus for this year's summer league, I'm equally interested in seeing how Wright IV plays. I see him as a future rotation PG, hopefully sooner than later.