Rubio trade

[Coolbreeze44]

Rubio to Sacramento for Collision (expiring) and Temple (3yrs 8mil per)

What type of collision are you looking for? Semi on smart car?

[Camden [enjin:6601484]]

Rubio to Sacramento for Collision (expiring) and Temple (3yrs 8mil per)

Only way I'd trade Rubio to Sacramento without a third team involved is if Cauley-Stein is involved, but even then I'm not really thrilled about it.

[Lipoli390]

I don't see the point in spending time even thinking about a Rubio trade. No conceivable trade would move the needle either immediately or long term. And it's not like Ricky's salary impedes our ability to acquire free agents next summer. Milwaukee might bite on a Ricky for Middleton deal, but do we really want to take the risk given Middleton's injury? Other than that deal, I can't think of a remotely realistic deal that could make a difference for us.

Honestly, if we're going to speculate on deals that could have a meaningful impact on this team, we should start talking about dealing Wiggins. Unfortunately, I'm concerned that his play to date has significantly diminished his value. Would the Bucks bit on a Ricky + Wiggins for Greek Freak deal? I doubt it. Too bad and not surprising because that would be a great deal for us. How about Wiggins for Butler? Would the Bulls do that? Would that be an adequate return for us given Butler's age relative to the rest of or core? How about Wiggins for Cousins? That might be realistic, but is Counsins the right player to fix this team's ills?

Thibs said he wanted this job because he wanted the chance to coach, in his words, "the best young roster in the NBA." Well, let's give him a full season to do what he came here to do. If we finish with under 30 wins, which seems likely now, I'd rather fire Thibs and give someone else a chance with this team.

[Coolbreeze44]

Wiggins played like a superstar. If it were just last night's game, I wouldn't extrapolate much from his performance. But he's been playing like a budding star through the first 11 games of the season. He broke through in the rebounding department last night, but he had already shown substantially improved ball-handling and passing before last night. And he had even shown signs of stepping up as a rebounder. As for his scoring, he's remarkably gifted in his ability to score prolifically and in multiple ways. As Wiggins said in a recent interview, he feels like the game has slowed down for him. I'm now prepared to change my view and state that he might be the best player on this team and could be headed for superstardome.


Lipoli - less than 3 weeks ago

[Camden [enjin:6601484]]

Milwaukee wouldn't -- and shouldn't -- deal Khris Middleton, especially for Ricky Rubio. They were smarter than that last season and the only thing that's changed is that Rubio's value is much lesser considering we have a top-five pick backing him up.

Of course, there's the Wall/Porter for Rubio/Wiggins deal I tossed out there, but I'm not sure either team jumps on that. There's also a Rubio for Noel deal that I would at least be interested in, and I'd try to weasel a future pick from them since Noel's a RFA this summer and wants to leave Philly. I'd at least look at a Rubio for Shumpert and Dunleavy trade, but I'm not sure if Cleveland would do that. And we could also play with the idea to acquire Dragic in a three team deal with Rubio heading to a third team, Kris Dunn and other assets heading to Miami, and Dragic here.

[Monster]

I think to a certain extent Lip is right thebreturn for Rubio may not move the needle. Here are some reasons/scenarios why you move Ricky given the premise Laid out in the beginning of the thread that Dunn is looking fairly legit.

1. You get a solid return for a decent player or asset that makes a lot of sense. The Ricky for Noel seems at least somewhat realistic but of course you gotta pay Noel but anyway it goes back to what Lip said about whether this deal moves the needle. It may not but what if the Wolves added a legit rotation 3 and D type guy or a strong big with a couple worthwhile skills? It might make sense.

2. It becomes clear that Ricky isn't going to be the starter here and while he isn't going to put up a stink about being a backup he clearly wants to be a starter so the Wolves try and find a place for him and get something back or at least get cap space.

3. It's just completely obvious it's time to move on and anything you can get is bette than nothing.

I've already brought up the idea of just keeping him as a backup. It's a deep position and we probably could get a bargain signing for a vet scoring PG of some kind but if you want a better player it's probably going to Cost a decent chunk of money. We will see what happens. Again I think Rubionto a some extent is gonna end up having a typically good season and that's going to help the team this year and his value will be plenty solid espcially with his contract.

Sizemore if Jarrett Jack gets healthy I would love to get him for a cheap contract as a vet guard. Some of those small signings can really help a team.

[Monster]

Rubio to Sacramento for Collision (expiring) and Temple (3yrs 8mil per)

What type of collision are you looking for? Semi on smart car?

Gotta love autocarrot

[Wile E Coyote [enjin:17432808]]

There are definitely some teams that could use an upgrade at PG: SAC, DEN, ORL, DAL, PHI.

There are some other teams that might need one (or a good backup) depending on their long term plans: CHI? HOU? BKN? SAN?

Assuming it is a two-team trade (which makes it tougher), I'd think DEN and PHI have the biggest collection of assets. However a future first from SAC would be pretty sweet.

[Wile E Coyote [enjin:17432808]]

I don't see the point in spending time even thinking about a Rubio trade. No conceivable trade would move the needle either immediately or long term. And it's not like Ricky's salary impedes our ability to acquire free agents next summer. Milwaukee might bite on a Ricky for Middleton deal, but do we really want to take the risk given Middleton's injury? Other than that deal, I can't think of a remotely realistic deal that could make a difference for us.

I don't think the situation is quite that unsolvable Lip. If Rubio is the long-term guy here, and we can win with him, great. He has suffered through horrible seasons and deserves a chance to be on a good team. But if Thibs thinks he is not in the long-term plans, getting value from him now would be smarter than demoting him and then letting him walk. I posted a list of teams that either need or might need a PG upgrade. I'd think both sides could come up with something reasonable.

Honestly, if we're going to speculate on deals that could have a meaningful impact on this team, we should start talking about dealing Wiggins.

While I do worry about Wiggins' inconsistency and lack of non-scoring contributions, I don't think now is the time for that sort of move. Too soon in his career and in Thibs' tenure here.

[bleedspeed]

I would do Rubio for Middleton.