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The Max contract limit is a problem too. It allows superstars to join together like in Boston, Miami, GSW to make other teams generally non competitive. The way it works now sucks for 95% of the league.

The need to get rid of the max contract limit or set a hard cap. Stop these guys from making super teams. Sure they could do it, but it would be much harder. What makes NHL and NFL better in a way is that any team can make a push any year. Quit protecting the low level NBA players salaries and quit sharing the lux cap money protecting the cheap ass smaller market teams.

It's like all the rules they made created the problems.

Camden wrote:Get rid of the salary cap and the max contract restrictions. Major League Baseball has it right in that regard. I also think that a franchise tag in the NBA would be a good idea.

So we're watching a league where 4 teams have 4x the salary as other teams?

Meh.

WolvesFan21 wrote:The Max contract limit is a problem too. It allows superstars to join together like in Boston, Miami, GSW to make other teams generally non competitive. The way it works now sucks for 95% of the league.

The need to get rid of the max contract limit or set a hard cap. Stop these guys from making super teams. Sure they could do it, but it would be much harder. What makes NHL and NFL better in a way is that any team can make a push any year. Quit protecting the low level NBA players salaries and quit sharing the lux cap money protecting the cheap ass smaller market teams.

It's like all the rules they made created the problems.

Boston?

AbeVigodaLive wrote:

Camden wrote:Get rid of the salary cap and the max contract restrictions. Major League Baseball has it right in that regard. I also think that a franchise tag in the NBA would be a good idea.

So we're watching a league where 4 teams have 4x the salary as other teams?

Meh.

It would be great for the casual fan. A twelve team league where the best players in the biggest markets would be pitted against each other every spring. Not so great for over half the franchises, many of whom would not be able to stay in business. And not so great for the players association who would lose about half their jobs.

I think no cap would be bad for basketball. The two highest payrolls in the league were in the World Series last year. That doesn't always happen, but that's also not a great look for a sport to show that money won't buy you a championship. It did last year. Also the other leagues are just deeper in talent because they simply have more positions to play and bigger drafts. The NBA is extremely top heavy all the way to it's core. Letting 4 guys go to Golden State has broken the league. Now imagine that happening in NY and LA and markets that can easily afford to pay 4 guys real max deals. It's not gonna even gonna be 12 teams. It's gonna be 4 teams and everyone else.

No cap also breaks the extension system so everyone is hitting free agency and getting massive deals that small markets have to match or see their player leave. Even restricted free agency would get tough to keep guys because teams could throw any albatross at a guy and not have any cap implications outside of just overpaying him. Imagine what Towns gets offered with no cap on the market. Why wouldn't a team like the Knicks offer him 50 million a year? That's nothing to them. The young top guys would get sniped out of the small markets and you'd basically get a guy on a rookie deal and then he's gone if he's good. The cap and the fact that opposing teams can't offer more money are the only two things keeping young players at home after their rookie deal. Get rid of both of those and it's game over on retaining your best players in a league controlled by 10-20 players.

khans2k5 wrote:I think no cap would be bad for basketball. The two highest payrolls in the league were in the World Series last year. That doesn't always happen, but that's also not a great look for a sport to show that money won't buy you a championship. It did last year. Also the other leagues are just deeper in talent because they simply have more positions to play and bigger drafts. The NBA is extremely top heavy all the way to it's core. Letting 4 guys go to Golden State has broken the league. Now imagine that happening in NY and LA and markets that can easily afford to pay 4 guys real max deals. It's not gonna even gonna be 12 teams. It's gonna be 4 teams and everyone else.

No cap also breaks the extension system so everyone is hitting free agency and getting massive deals that small markets have to match or see their player leave. Even restricted free agency would get tough to keep guys because teams could throw any albatross at a guy and not have any cap implications outside of just overpaying him. Imagine what Towns gets offered with no cap on the market. Why wouldn't a team like the Knicks offer him 50 million a year? That's nothing to them. The young top guys would get sniped out of the small markets and you'd basically get a guy on a rookie deal and then he's gone if he's good. The cap and the fact that opposing teams can't offer more money are the only two things keeping young players at home after their rookie deal. Get rid of both of those and it's game over on retaining your best players in a league controlled by 10-20 players.

We've all heard the recent reports that the Knicks may be on the market (sort of) with an asking price around $4B - $5B.

What's even more crazy is that it doesn't even include the arena.

AbeVigodaLive wrote:

WolvesFan21 wrote:The Max contract limit is a problem too. It allows superstars to join together like in Boston, Miami, GSW to make other teams generally non competitive. The way it works now sucks for 95% of the league.

The need to get rid of the max contract limit or set a hard cap. Stop these guys from making super teams. Sure they could do it, but it would be much harder. What makes NHL and NFL better in a way is that any team can make a push any year. Quit protecting the low level NBA players salaries and quit sharing the lux cap money protecting the cheap ass smaller market teams.

It's like all the rules they made created the problems.

Boston?

KG/Allen/Pierce

khans2k5 wrote:I think no cap would be bad for basketball. The two highest payrolls in the league were in the World Series last year. That doesn't always happen, but that's also not a great look for a sport to show that money won't buy you a championship. It did last year. Also the other leagues are just deeper in talent because they simply have more positions to play and bigger drafts. The NBA is extremely top heavy all the way to it's core. Letting 4 guys go to Golden State has broken the league. Now imagine that happening in NY and LA and markets that can easily afford to pay 4 guys real max deals. It's not gonna even gonna be 12 teams. It's gonna be 4 teams and everyone else.

No cap also breaks the extension system so everyone is hitting free agency and getting massive deals that small markets have to match or see their player leave. Even restricted free agency would get tough to keep guys because teams could throw any albatross at a guy and not have any cap implications outside of just overpaying him. Imagine what Towns gets offered with no cap on the market. Why wouldn't a team like the Knicks offer him 50 million a year? That's nothing to them. The young top guys would get sniped out of the small markets and you'd basically get a guy on a rookie deal and then he's gone if he's good. The cap and the fact that opposing teams can't offer more money are the only two things keeping young players at home after their rookie deal. Get rid of both of those and it's game over on retaining your best players in a league controlled by 10-20 players.

Hard cap and get rid of max contracts. If a team wants to pay half it's cap to sign LeBron or KD then let them. It's the only fair way to keep teams competitive. When these guys are underpaid then they can team up and dominate. They'd have to leave huge money on the table to team up with no Max contracts.

WolvesFan21 wrote:

AbeVigodaLive wrote:

WolvesFan21 wrote:The Max contract limit is a problem too. It allows superstars to join together like in Boston, Miami, GSW to make other teams generally non competitive. The way it works now sucks for 95% of the league.

The need to get rid of the max contract limit or set a hard cap. Stop these guys from making super teams. Sure they could do it, but it would be much harder. What makes NHL and NFL better in a way is that any team can make a push any year. Quit protecting the low level NBA players salaries and quit sharing the lux cap money protecting the cheap ass smaller market teams.

It's like all the rules they made created the problems.

Boston?

KG/Allen/Pierce

I don't see many similarities with what Boston did (trades) and what Miami did (players choosing to team up).

AbeVigodaLive wrote:

WolvesFan21 wrote:

AbeVigodaLive wrote:

WolvesFan21 wrote:The Max contract limit is a problem too. It allows superstars to join together like in Boston, Miami, GSW to make other teams generally non competitive. The way it works now sucks for 95% of the league.

The need to get rid of the max contract limit or set a hard cap. Stop these guys from making super teams. Sure they could do it, but it would be much harder. What makes NHL and NFL better in a way is that any team can make a push any year. Quit protecting the low level NBA players salaries and quit sharing the lux cap money protecting the cheap ass smaller market teams.

It's like all the rules they made created the problems.

Boston?

KG/Allen/Pierce

I don't see many similarities with what Boston did (trades) and what Miami did (players choosing to team up).

I believe KG had a no trade clause so he could veto, but I'm not sure. Anyways, they did team up, no matter if it was FA or trade. Miami was more egregious no doubt.