Re: Season Over?
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 4:00 pm
kekgeek1 wrote:Q12543 wrote:FNG, Not sure where you are getting your numbers from as mine are way off from yours for Ant-KAT-DLO (see my post above yours). I got mine from NBA.com which isn't known for completely botching stats.
As for DLO/KAT/Ant playing without Rubio in lineups in 20/21, they are almost overwhelmingly positive, just like they were with Rubio. In other words, the KAT/Ant/DLO trio last year was quite good offensively whether Rubio was on the court with them or not.
I think the Rubio explanation is a stretch and that's coming from one of his biggest fans.
I'm also curious on where FNG got his number because according to cleaningtheglass.com the Wolves were a +5 with the Rubio/Ant/Dlo/Kat pairing and a +5.8 in that pairing without Rubio.
Not trying to be that guy because I like Rubio and think he is off to a very solid start this year but Ricky was bad last year. Numbers with Dlo Ricky were really bad last year and when Ricky wasn't on the court with Kat last year the Ricky +/- numbers were not good.
In the end Ricky is a very solid nba player but he isn't a needle mover
I think we agree overall on the "solid" categorization if you look at his whole career with the ups and downs, but I do think some of those years he really helped his team win more than they otherwise would have without him. But he was a key part of that Phoenix resurgence in '19-20 when they went from winning only 19 games the year before to nearly .500 ball. Obviously when Phoenix replaced him with Chris Paul - one of the three or four greatest PGs ever - they continued to get even better. He was a needle-mover early in his career with MN and again now with Cleveland.