BloopOracle wrote:I gotta admit I am stunned that there are people here that would give up Edwards in a trade for Simmons, that being said here are my final offers:
DLO and 2 protected 1sts
Beasley, Prince, McDaniels, 2 unprotected 1sts
Beasley, Prince, Naz (whatever filler it takes without McDaniels to match salary) and 4 unprotected 1st round picks
Bloop - FNG is the only one on this board I'm aware of who would give up Edwards. All I can say is that FNG is in a very, very lonely place right now. :).
Morey just needs to find a GM that looks at Ben Simmons the way that FNG does. :)
No chance, monster. GM's are generally quite smart, and what smart GM is going to appreciate a guy who only averages 16/8/8 and is the best defensive player in the league? He'd have to be crazy to value that guy more than Anthony Edwards ;-) !
(Ok, I know that all fan bases overvalue their own players, but I'm becoming convinced that this board is taking overvaluation to previously unprecedented heights. I predict that soon we'll be saying we won't give up McDaniels straight up for Simmons!)
FNG - Don't think for a minute that I didn't read your fine print. So let me say this. I would not trade McDaniels straight up for Simmons. I'd be willing to give up Jake Layman, but only if we'd get some draft compensation in return. That's my new final and best offer.
BloopOracle wrote:I gotta admit I am stunned that there are people here that would give up Edwards in a trade for Simmons, that being said here are my final offers:
DLO and 2 protected 1sts
Beasley, Prince, McDaniels, 2 unprotected 1sts
Beasley, Prince, Naz (whatever filler it takes without McDaniels to match salary) and 4 unprotected 1st round picks
Bloop - FNG is the only one on this board I'm aware of who would give up Edwards. All I can say is that FNG is in a very, very lonely place right now. :).
Morey just needs to find a GM that looks at Ben Simmons the way that FNG does. :)
No chance, monster. GM's are generally quite smart, and what smart GM is going to appreciate a guy who only averages 16/8/8 and is the best defensive player in the league? He'd have to be crazy to value that guy more than Anthony Edwards ;-) !
(Ok, I know that all fan bases overvalue their own players, but I'm becoming convinced that this board is taking overvaluation to previously unprecedented heights. I predict that soon we'll be saying we won't give up McDaniels straight up for Simmons!)
FNG - Don't think for a minute that I didn't read your fine print. So let me say this. I would not trade McDaniels straight up for Simmons. I'd be willing to give up Jake Layman, but only if we'd get some draft compensation in return. That's my new final and best offer.
Lip we would be getting fleeced in that deal. I might be willing to let JMac go, but only if Simmons comes in a package with Embiid. Let's be realistic here.
BloopOracle wrote:I gotta admit I am stunned that there are people here that would give up Edwards in a trade for Simmons, that being said here are my final offers:
DLO and 2 protected 1sts
Beasley, Prince, McDaniels, 2 unprotected 1sts
Beasley, Prince, Naz (whatever filler it takes without McDaniels to match salary) and 4 unprotected 1st round picks
Bloop - FNG is the only one on this board I'm aware of who would give up Edwards. All I can say is that FNG is in a very, very lonely place right now. :).
Morey just needs to find a GM that looks at Ben Simmons the way that FNG does. :)
No chance, monster. GM's are generally quite smart, and what smart GM is going to appreciate a guy who only averages 16/8/8 and is the best defensive player in the league? He'd have to be crazy to value that guy more than Anthony Edwards ;-) !
(Ok, I know that all fan bases overvalue their own players, but I'm becoming convinced that this board is taking overvaluation to previously unprecedented heights. I predict that soon we'll be saying we won't give up McDaniels straight up for Simmons!)
FNG - Don't think for a minute that I didn't read your fine print. So let me say this. I would not trade McDaniels straight up for Simmons. I'd be willing to give up Jake Layman, but only if we'd get some draft compensation in return. That's my new final and best offer.
Lip we would be getting fleeced in that deal. I might be willing to let JMac go, but only if Simmons comes in a package with Embiid. Let's be realistic here.
You're right, Cool. I just wasn't thinking clearly. But don't you think we should expect them to include Harris as well? Or at least three unprotected first-round picks, right?
BloopOracle wrote:I gotta admit I am stunned that there are people here that would give up Edwards in a trade for Simmons, that being said here are my final offers:
DLO and 2 protected 1sts
Beasley, Prince, McDaniels, 2 unprotected 1sts
Beasley, Prince, Naz (whatever filler it takes without McDaniels to match salary) and 4 unprotected 1st round picks
Bloop - FNG is the only one on this board I'm aware of who would give up Edwards. All I can say is that FNG is in a very, very lonely place right now. :).
Morey just needs to find a GM that looks at Ben Simmons the way that FNG does. :)
No chance, monster. GM's are generally quite smart, and what smart GM is going to appreciate a guy who only averages 16/8/8 and is the best defensive player in the league? He'd have to be crazy to value that guy more than Anthony Edwards ;-) !
(Ok, I know that all fan bases overvalue their own players, but I'm becoming convinced that this board is taking overvaluation to previously unprecedented heights. I predict that soon we'll be saying we won't give up McDaniels straight up for Simmons!)
FNG - Don't think for a minute that I didn't read your fine print. So let me say this. I would not trade McDaniels straight up for Simmons. I'd be willing to give up Jake Layman, but only if we'd get some draft compensation in return. That's my new final and best offer.
Lip we would be getting fleeced in that deal. I might be willing to let JMac go, but only if Simmons comes in a package with Embiid. Let's be realistic here.
You're right, Cool. I just wasn't thinking clearly. But don't you think we should expect them to include Harris as well? Or at least three unprotected first-round picks, right?
Now you're doing it right, boys! Layman and the rights to negotiate with Ryan Saunders and David Kahn in exchange for Simmons and Embiid...git 'er done!
BloopOracle wrote:I gotta admit I am stunned that there are people here that would give up Edwards in a trade for Simmons, that being said here are my final offers:
DLO and 2 protected 1sts
Beasley, Prince, McDaniels, 2 unprotected 1sts
Beasley, Prince, Naz (whatever filler it takes without McDaniels to match salary) and 4 unprotected 1st round picks
Bloop - FNG is the only one on this board I'm aware of who would give up Edwards. All I can say is that FNG is in a very, very lonely place right now. :).
Morey just needs to find a GM that looks at Ben Simmons the way that FNG does. :)
No chance, monster. GM's are generally quite smart, and what smart GM is going to appreciate a guy who only averages 16/8/8 and is the best defensive player in the league? He'd have to be crazy to value that guy more than Anthony Edwards ;-) !
(Ok, I know that all fan bases overvalue their own players, but I'm becoming convinced that this board is taking overvaluation to previously unprecedented heights. I predict that soon we'll be saying we won't give up McDaniels straight up for Simmons!)
FNG - Don't think for a minute that I didn't read your fine print. So let me say this. I would not trade McDaniels straight up for Simmons. I'd be willing to give up Jake Layman, but only if we'd get some draft compensation in return. That's my new final and best offer.
Lip we would be getting fleeced in that deal. I might be willing to let JMac go, but only if Simmons comes in a package with Embiid. Let's be realistic here.
You're right, Cool. I just wasn't thinking clearly. But don't you think we should expect them to include Harris as well? Or at least three unprotected first-round picks, right?
Now you're doing it right, boys! Layman and the rights to negotiate with Ryan Saunders and David Kahn in exchange for Simmons and Embiid...git 'er done!
FNG - I'm OK parting with Layman. But I won't give up our exclusive right to Ryan Saunders and David Kahn. That's where I draw the line! Once again, you're willing to give up way too much. :)
BloopOracle wrote:I gotta admit I am stunned that there are people here that would give up Edwards in a trade for Simmons, that being said here are my final offers:
DLO and 2 protected 1sts
Beasley, Prince, McDaniels, 2 unprotected 1sts
Beasley, Prince, Naz (whatever filler it takes without McDaniels to match salary) and 4 unprotected 1st round picks
Bloop - FNG is the only one on this board I'm aware of who would give up Edwards. All I can say is that FNG is in a very, very lonely place right now. :).
Morey just needs to find a GM that looks at Ben Simmons the way that FNG does. :)
No chance, monster. GM's are generally quite smart, and what smart GM is going to appreciate a guy who only averages 16/8/8 and is the best defensive player in the league? He'd have to be crazy to value that guy more than Anthony Edwards ;-) !
(Ok, I know that all fan bases overvalue their own players, but I'm becoming convinced that this board is taking overvaluation to previously unprecedented heights. I predict that soon we'll be saying we won't give up McDaniels straight up for Simmons!)
FNG - Don't think for a minute that I didn't read your fine print. So let me say this. I would not trade McDaniels straight up for Simmons. I'd be willing to give up Jake Layman, but only if we'd get some draft compensation in return. That's my new final and best offer.
Lip we would be getting fleeced in that deal. I might be willing to let JMac go, but only if Simmons comes in a package with Embiid. Let's be realistic here.
You're right, Cool. I just wasn't thinking clearly. But don't you think we should expect them to include Harris as well? Or at least three unprotected first-round picks, right?
Now you're doing it right, boys! Layman and the rights to negotiate with Ryan Saunders and David Kahn in exchange for Simmons and Embiid...git 'er done!
FNG - I'm OK parting with Layman. But I won't give up our exclusive right to Ryan Saunders and David Kahn. That's where I draw the line! Once again, you're willing to give up way too much. :)
That's too much for a couple bums that couldn't even get to the Eastern conference finals once. Philly should blow it up and start the process over.
BloopOracle wrote:I gotta admit I am stunned that there are people here that would give up Edwards in a trade for Simmons, that being said here are my final offers:
DLO and 2 protected 1sts
Beasley, Prince, McDaniels, 2 unprotected 1sts
Beasley, Prince, Naz (whatever filler it takes without McDaniels to match salary) and 4 unprotected 1st round picks
Bloop - FNG is the only one on this board I'm aware of who would give up Edwards. All I can say is that FNG is in a very, very lonely place right now. :).
Morey just needs to find a GM that looks at Ben Simmons the way that FNG does. :)
No chance, monster. GM's are generally quite smart, and what smart GM is going to appreciate a guy who only averages 16/8/8 and is the best defensive player in the league? He'd have to be crazy to value that guy more than Anthony Edwards ;-) !
(Ok, I know that all fan bases overvalue their own players, but I'm becoming convinced that this board is taking overvaluation to previously unprecedented heights. I predict that soon we'll be saying we won't give up McDaniels straight up for Simmons!)
FNG - Don't think for a minute that I didn't read your fine print. So let me say this. I would not trade McDaniels straight up for Simmons. I'd be willing to give up Jake Layman, but only if we'd get some draft compensation in return. That's my new final and best offer.
Lip we would be getting fleeced in that deal. I might be willing to let JMac go, but only if Simmons comes in a package with Embiid. Let's be realistic here.
You're right, Cool. I just wasn't thinking clearly. But don't you think we should expect them to include Harris as well? Or at least three unprotected first-round picks, right?
I see your point. But once they get away from the drama of Embiid and Simmons, those picks are likely to very late in the first round. Better get some 2nds too.
I honestly dont think there's a realistic trade that gets us Simmons. But based on what I think his actual value is its somewhere along McDaniels + whatever philly prefers of DLo or Beas + 2 unprotected picks. If we're not willing to give up that much we dont get Simmons in my opinion. Im totally fine with people thinking loosing McDaniels isnt worth it, I just think that is what it would actually take.
thedoper wrote:I honestly dont think there's a realistic trade that gets us Simmons. But based on what I think his actual value is its somewhere along McDaniels + whatever philly prefers of DLo or Beas + 2 unprotected picks. If we're not willing to give up that much we dont get Simmons in my opinion. Im totally fine with people thinking loosing McDaniels isnt worth it, I just think that is what it would actually take.
Doper - I think the Sixers would prefer DLO and Beasley over McDaniels and only one of those two. DLO and Beasley are both more win-now players than McDaniels and the Sixers will undoubtedly be looking for players that can help them remain a contender in the near term, including this upcoming season. Whether DLO and Beasley would be good enough is an open question. Is that duo better than the following duos: Haliburton and Hield; VanVleet and Anunoby; Sexton and Love; DeJounte Murray and Lonnie Walker (or Poeltl)? I don't think a Beasley/McDaniels duo or a DLO/McDaniels duo competes with any of those other combos.
thedoper wrote:I honestly dont think there's a realistic trade that gets us Simmons. But based on what I think his actual value is its somewhere along McDaniels + whatever philly prefers of DLo or Beas + 2 unprotected picks. If we're not willing to give up that much we dont get Simmons in my opinion. Im totally fine with people thinking loosing McDaniels isnt worth it, I just think that is what it would actually take.
Doper - I think the Sixers would prefer DLO and Beasley over McDaniels and only one of those two. DLO and Beasley are both more win-now players than McDaniels and the Sixers will undoubtedly be looking for players that can help them remain a contender in the near term, including this upcoming season. Whether DLO and Beasley would be good enough is an open question. Is that duo better than the following duos: Haliburton and Hield; VanVleet and Anunoby; Sexton and Love; DeJounte Murray and Lonnie Walker (or Poeltl)? I don't think a Beasley/McDaniels duo or a DLO/McDaniels duo competes with any of those other combos.
IF Vanvleet and Anunoby are really offered and Morey decides to win now that's probably the best he can do. The Sixers will need another forward type. The other question on that trade is whether that's all they get is those 2 guys. If so then Morey might be more willing to take an offer that includes other assets like draft picks. To me Beasley and Heild are guys that either need to be moved to other teams or someone from the Sixers needs to be moved for value. It just doesn't make sense to have that many worthwhile SGs on one roster. Curry could play some minutes as a defector PG.
