Would you trade Towns

[Q12543 [enjin:6621299]]

AD in New Orleans didn't have much success (albeit more than KAT/Wolves). Now he's paired with LeBron and, voila!, his team is really good. It's really hard for one guy in the West to carry a team, as Crazy mentioned above.

I think the problem we're seeing now is that even if KAT and Wiggins are at the top of their games, this team is still capped at ~ 35 to 40 wins because those two need multiple shooters/defenders around them and it's really hard to find guys that can do both well.

These last few games is an illustration of our dilemma. We've been a top 5 defense since KAT went out, but our offense is horrific. KAT comes back and our offense will be better, but our defense will go downhill again. Granted, his offensive strength is > than his defensive weakness, but not by a lot. He's just a tough player to build around.

[Wolvesfan21]

"Build around" isn't even a term I like. If this team is going to be an NBA Champion (which should be all our goals for the franchise) we will need a better player then KAT and thus then are we not building around that player?

If you want to beat either LA duo or GSW with multiple top 10 players, you need to do so as well.

KAT isn't a problem as he outplays his contract, we simply don't have the ultimate solution/s yet.

Building a team is based on getting the most talent based on how much you pay. The only player who is a net positive I think right now is KAT. So you keep him, add and develop others to be also net positive players. Get rid of bad contracts. Develop rookies on cheap deals.

Because with max contracts limiting the earning potential of the star players, they will always win since they are severely underpaid. It's just the way it is.

You could have the best defensive center in the league, a young star in Mitchell, a bunch of other good players and you are still just the Utah Jazz, no real chance to defeat the big boys.

[khans2k5 [enjin:6608728]]

Towns plays the most impactful defensive position on the court and he is paired with a wing in Wiggins who has been playing all-star caliber basketball frequently this year. We have veterans in Teague and Covington who are not perfect fits, but they are decent veterans. That should be enough to get an 8 seed in the playoffs this year with as much parity as there is across the league. But instead we have chosen to play 5 out with 1 shooter and 1 creator and our defense is in shambles. This team while it doesn't have a ton of talent is vastly underperforming because they are a square peg being pushed through a round hole. We should be fighting for the 8 seed this year and if we aren't by the end of the year it's time to really start looking at Towns and whether he is actually a building block based on the style of basketball this front office has chosen to implement. A 3pt shooting C is not nearly as important as a C who can anchor your defense.

[D-Mac [enjin:19736340]]

We need to hit on a guard big time. Obviously everyone on this board knows that. Wiggins just isn't that guy (although I like his improvements this year). We need a legit pg or combo guard that is a stud and a closer. I'm talking billups type. I still like the culver pick for that reason, but he hasn't panned out yet. Shoot, what would it take to get McCollum?? Covington, culver and a 1st? Do it. That's the kind of guy we need with towns. There's other more buy low guys that I'd go for too. They're wasting Covington's current value on this team right now! He's far from their biggest need.

[Camden [enjin:6601484]]

We need to hit on a guard big time. Obviously everyone on this board knows that. Wiggins just isn't that guy (although I like his improvements this year). We need a legit pg or combo guard that is a stud and a closer. I'm talking billups type. I still like the culver pick for that reason, but he hasn't panned out yet. Shoot, what would it take to get McCollum?? Covington, culver and a 1st? Do it. That's the kind of guy we need with towns. There's other more buy low guys that I'd go for too. They're wasting Covington's current value on this team right now! He's far from their biggest need.

I'm nodding in agreement with just about everything you said here, but I prefer D'Angelo Russell to C.J. McCollum for a multitude of reasons.

[D-Mac [enjin:19736340]]

Most of you are probably right that we need to stick with towns for a couple more years minimum, but if that's the plan, then I think we need to keep getting as many guard lottery tickets as we can. That's what culver and Noel are and I think it's time to trade Covington and Teague for a couple more. We're long overdue on getting lucky on a guard and hopefully it will happen soon!

[D-Mac [enjin:19736340]]

We need to hit on a guard big time. Obviously everyone on this board knows that. Wiggins just isn't that guy (although I like his improvements this year). We need a legit pg or combo guard that is a stud and a closer. I'm talking billups type. I still like the culver pick for that reason, but he hasn't panned out yet. Shoot, what would it take to get McCollum?? Covington, culver and a 1st? Do it. That's the kind of guy we need with towns. There's other more buy low guys that I'd go for too. They're wasting Covington's current value on this team right now! He's far from their biggest need.

I'm nodding in agreement with just about everything you said here, but I prefer D'Angelo Russell to C.J. McCollum for a multitude of reasons.

Yep Russell too. Either would be great and I think either Portland or golden state would be good trade partners. Russell fits the timeline and the towns angle better too.

Also, there's really not much to complain about on rosas to this point. I liked the draft picks, was good moving saric, and like all three of naz, mcglaughlin and Martin. Also really like the layman signing. My complaint will be if they haven't decided which way they're going in the next couple weeks. Covington needs to go either way, and a guard needs to come back either way... win now or lottery ticket(s)

[WildWolf2813]

We need to hit on a guard big time. Obviously everyone on this board knows that. Wiggins just isn't that guy (although I like his improvements this year). We need a legit pg or combo guard that is a stud and a closer. I'm talking billups type. I still like the culver pick for that reason, but he hasn't panned out yet. Shoot, what would it take to get McCollum?? Covington, culver and a 1st? Do it. That's the kind of guy we need with towns. There's other more buy low guys that I'd go for too. They're wasting Covington's current value on this team right now! He's far from their biggest need.

I'm nodding in agreement with just about everything you said here, but I prefer D'Angelo Russell to C.J. McCollum for a multitude of reasons.

Yep Russell too. Either would be great and I think either Portland or golden state would be good trade partners. Russell fits the timeline and the towns angle better too.

Also, there's really not much to complain about on rosas to this point. I liked the draft picks, was good moving saric, and like all three of naz, mcglaughlin and Martin. Also really like the layman signing. My complaint will be if they haven't decided which way they're going in the next couple weeks. Covington needs to go either way, and a guard needs to come back either way... win now or lottery ticket(s)

the issue with Rosas is that I'm not sure the template he has can easily be applied to this situation, and this franchise simply isn't gonna give him credit for trying and failing. As I've said before, not just with Rosas but with any prospective GM candidate: I'm not sure he knows how hard it's really gonna be to shape this roster. I don't think anyone could reasonably expect him to land stars off the bat, but I think we expected more out of complimentary guys. Where's our Duncan Robinson? Where's our Kendrick Nunn? Too many random guys can pop out of any team and actually contribute whereas this team continues to parade otherwise useless players on the court time and time again.

As for Towns, he's a nicer Demarcus Cousins. Other than the defense, the biggest problem is that it's hard to believe anything he says and I say this because he says all the right things but can't apply them. I get that he's just one guy and he has to contend with a situation that nobody really wants a part of, but his leadership is something we all have to question, and it'll continue to be questioned as long as we keep this idea that we can't have vets here. (let's be real, when your friends wanna be teammates with you but not where you are, that can get to a player)

[WildWolf2813]

oh and side note: Does Gersson Rosas serve a purpose here if he eventually trades Towns? He was brought here to bring another star or two to join Towns, not seek 3 new ones over the next decade. The draft isn't exactly his strong suit.

[Camden [enjin:6601484]]

Letting Jimmy Butler slip away will go down as one of the bigger mistakes this franchise has ever made.