Mikkeman wrote:Q12543 wrote:Lip, Unlike perhaps you, I have very little hope that Edwards will turn into a plus player. I see him heading down the same path as a DLO or LaVine. He'll be able to put the ball in the hoop, but do very little else to help a team win games. So yeah, nevermind superstar or even all-star. I think he will be far worse than either of those outcomes, even in a couple of years.
Just by looking those do shit stats, it looks like Lavine would be doing already something else besides scoring. He is averaging 5.3 rebounds, 5.2 assists, 1.3 steals and 0.6 blocks. All those numbers are pretty close to career per 36 minutes numbers of shooting guards like Manu or Kobe. But still even though he has shown a lot of improvement in all statistical areas except turnovers and he is even scoring super effectively (TS over 65%), his on off numbers remain really poor. I guess there hasn't ever be another that effecient 25pts scorer with as bad on off numbers.
Yeah, one of the most extreme examples of a disconnect between box score and +/- stats.
One thing that is in the box score stats that you didn't mention though are turnovers. He's averaging 4.4 turnovers. That has to be part of the problem this year don't you think? Besides not getting a shot attempt up for your team, you are also likely giving up easy points on the other end. Add in his terrible individual defense and perhaps that explains 85% of the disconnect.