Q12543 wrote:If the theory is we will only play 4s that can shoot the 3, than we have our priorities messed up. What about the 1-3 spots? If Vonleh or Dieng were to start at PF with RoCo moving to SF, the guy bumped out of the lineup (Okogie, Culver or Graham) is no better from outside. We literally lose nothing in terms of outside shooting, yet gain a lot in defense and rebounding.
Our system doesn't fit any of our players except for RoCo (as a primary 3) and KAT. The rest don't shoot well enough. Wiggins is borderline with his scud 3. He has been great around the rim though.
Obviously the other guys either improve or they won't be here long term. You don't play this offense with guys who can't shoot. It basically destroys the offense as teams can sag and double others which is what we see.
Q12543 wrote:If the theory is we will only play 4s that can shoot the 3, than we have our priorities messed up. What about the 1-3 spots? If Vonleh or Dieng were to start at PF with RoCo moving to SF, the guy bumped out of the lineup (Okogie, Culver or Graham) is no better from outside. We literally lose nothing in terms of outside shooting, yet gain a lot in defense and rebounding.
Our system doesn't fit any of our players except for RoCo (as a primary 3) and KAT. The rest don't shoot well enough. Wiggins is borderline with his scud 3. He has been great around the rim though.
Obviously the other guys either improve or they won't be here long term. You don't play this offense with guys who can't shoot. It basically destroys the offense as teams can sag and double others which is what we see.
Sure. We expect a lot of changes, as has been discussed.
But I gotta admit... it makes the Culver pick especially odd. He was maybe expected to be many things... but not a top-notch shooter.
So I get putting in a system and being dedicated to it. But missing so entirely in such an obvious way on the #1 way to make the most of that system with players with a very specific skill set for that system... is not a great start for the regime.
Q12543 wrote:If the theory is we will only play 4s that can shoot the 3, than we have our priorities messed up. What about the 1-3 spots? If Vonleh or Dieng were to start at PF with RoCo moving to SF, the guy bumped out of the lineup (Okogie, Culver or Graham) is no better from outside. We literally lose nothing in terms of outside shooting, yet gain a lot in defense and rebounding.
Our system doesn't fit any of our players except for RoCo (as a primary 3) and KAT. The rest don't shoot well enough. Wiggins is borderline with his scud 3. He has been great around the rim though.
Obviously the other guys either improve or they won't be here long term. You don't play this offense with guys who can't shoot. It basically destroys the offense as teams can sag and double others which is what we see.
Sure. We expect a lot of changes, as has been discussed.
But I gotta admit... it makes the Culver pick especially odd. He was maybe expected to be many things... but not a top-notch shooter.
So I get putting in a system and being dedicated to it. But missing so entirely in such an obvious way on the #1 way to make the most of that system with players with a very specific skill set for that system... is not a great start for the regime.
For sure. Though it is early, it is not promising for Culver as ever becoming even avg at shooting. I think it's all mental for him.
Q12543 wrote:If the theory is we will only play 4s that can shoot the 3, than we have our priorities messed up. What about the 1-3 spots? If Vonleh or Dieng were to start at PF with RoCo moving to SF, the guy bumped out of the lineup (Okogie, Culver or Graham) is no better from outside. We literally lose nothing in terms of outside shooting, yet gain a lot in defense and rebounding.
You do make a very good point although you are talking about the current roster. This team obviously wants all 5 players taking and making 3's. It's likely easier to find a wing to shoot volume 3's than another big...maybe. If the Wolves had actual good players on both ends of the court (I know a high bar!) it would be interesting to see what Covington at PF would look like. How many times This season have the Wolves had their preferred starting lineup (Even Including Teague coming off the bench) available to them? Like maybe half the games?
Personally I would have started With a big or had a that as a possible adjustment if things didn't work. Of course early on defensively things were going well. There were posts about Towns looking like a plus defender. I don't think that was a complete mirage. So...then it took a little while for things to fall off a cliff on that end and now Towns has been hurt. I can see why they might not be willing to change things up...yet. I haven't watched closely enough to know if they are trying anything different in terms of schemes etc. it's just been ugly and some of these recent games where they are probably looking good defensively...I don't want to take too much away from them but they are playing some teams that just couldn't score.
Q12543 wrote:If the theory is we will only play 4s that can shoot the 3, than we have our priorities messed up. What about the 1-3 spots? If Vonleh or Dieng were to start at PF with RoCo moving to SF, the guy bumped out of the lineup (Okogie, Culver or Graham) is no better from outside. We literally lose nothing in terms of outside shooting, yet gain a lot in defense and rebounding.
Our system doesn't fit any of our players except for RoCo (as a primary 3) and KAT. The rest don't shoot well enough. Wiggins is borderline with his scud 3. He has been great around the rim though.
Obviously the other guys either improve or they won't be here long term. You don't play this offense with guys who can't shoot. It basically destroys the offense as teams can sag and double others which is what we see.
Sure. We expect a lot of changes, as has been discussed.
But I gotta admit... it makes the Culver pick especially odd. He was maybe expected to be many things... but not a top-notch shooter.
So I get putting in a system and being dedicated to it. But missing so entirely in such an obvious way on the #1 way to make the most of that system with players with a very specific skill set for that system... is not a great start for the regime.
For sure. Though it is early, it is not promising for Culver as ever becoming even avg at shooting. I think it's all mental for him.
I see some mechanical things with him that also cause problems. The placement of his hand, the position of his elbow and basic shooting motion are all flawed. He needs work.
crazy-canuck wrote:Weve had the 3rd best defense in the league during this stretch that kats been hurt.
Defense has definitely improved in KAT's absence (and somewhat less notably Wiggins as well). We're obviously a better overall team with these two playing and healthy, but they need a ton of help in skills not easy to find.
Q12543 wrote:If the theory is we will only play 4s that can shoot the 3, than we have our priorities messed up. What about the 1-3 spots? If Vonleh or Dieng were to start at PF with RoCo moving to SF, the guy bumped out of the lineup (Okogie, Culver or Graham) is no better from outside. We literally lose nothing in terms of outside shooting, yet gain a lot in defense and rebounding.
Our system doesn't fit any of our players except for RoCo (as a primary 3) and KAT. The rest don't shoot well enough. Wiggins is borderline with his scud 3. He has been great around the rim though.
Obviously the other guys either improve or they won't be here long term. You don't play this offense with guys who can't shoot. It basically destroys the offense as teams can sag and double others which is what we see.
Sure. We expect a lot of changes, as has been discussed.
But I gotta admit... it makes the Culver pick especially odd. He was maybe expected to be many things... but not a top-notch shooter.
So I get putting in a system and being dedicated to it. But missing so entirely in such an obvious way on the #1 way to make the most of that system with players with a very specific skill set for that system... is not a great start for the regime.
For sure. Though it is early, it is not promising for Culver as ever becoming even avg at shooting. I think it's all mental for him.
I see some mechanical things with him that also cause problems. The placement of his hand, the position of his elbow and basic shooting motion are all flawed. He needs work.
If he is making tweaks then that is likely the issue to his FT shooting slump. I know from playing golf most of my life and reading all the books from the experts like Tiger and Rotella, it difficult to make changes and stop thinking mechanical when that is all you do during practice.
He's likely working on form changes, but then during the game he either reverts back to "bad" habits or has to think mechanical. So is stuck between the two and makes things worse.
