It's time to move on from Ricky Rubio

[khans2k5 [enjin:6608728]]

There just one problem. Nobody is trading a decent PG who can shoot for Ricky. Ricky can probably return a wing or big, but I don't see a deal out there that dumps Ricky and gets a PG back. Philly and Sacramento are realistically the only teams who need a PG and I just don't know where the PG we could use comes back from. Miami is going to want young players/picks for Dragic and even with 12 million in cap space that is going to be tough to do because outside of Towns and Wiggins, our young guys make very little to get the salary match. And we can't trade this year's pick because of the conditional 1st we owe next year to ATL for Payne. Sacramento has no cap space so they'd have to find a way to dump Gay or Afflalo to a 3rd team to make it work. So you pretty much just have Philly and you aren't getting a decent PG option back from them. It's a PG league, but there aren't a bunch of extras out there.

[Camden [enjin:6601484]]

Guys, relax, we have the Western Conference Rookie of the Month... Everything is going to be fine...

Oh, wait, my sources indicate that the Wolves did not actually draft Jamal Murray. Woof.

[Q12543 [enjin:6621299]]

Rubio might be the best option right now but so what? We're 5-13. Start Tyus and bring Dunn off the bench. Play them both 24ish minutes a night (give or take a few). We have to see what we have a the position.

I think we know what we have. We have seen Tyus play full 4th quarters and edge his way into the rotation. He was also Ricky's primary backup after we traded Miller and moved LaVine to SG last season. Dunn started a few games for us when Ricky was hurt and he's still the first PG off the bench. What more do you need to see? I think Thibs has a pretty good idea about these guys.

Now, I could see going the soft tank route by trading Rubio now to add depth elsewhere and then rolling with Dunn and Jones just so that they get more reps. But it's not like these guys have been buried on the bench and we have no clue about their capabilities.

[Q12543 [enjin:6621299]]

There just one problem. Nobody is trading a decent PG who can shoot for Ricky. Ricky can probably return a wing or big, but I don't see a deal out there that dumps Ricky and gets a PG back. Philly and Sacramento are realistically the only teams who need a PG and I just don't know where the PG we could use comes back from. Miami is going to want young players/picks for Dragic and even with 12 million in cap space that is going to be tough to do because outside of Towns and Wiggins, our young guys make very little to get the salary match. And we can't trade this year's pick because of the conditional 1st we owe next year to ATL for Payne. Sacramento has no cap space so they'd have to find a way to dump Gay or Afflalo to a 3rd team to make it work. So you pretty much just have Philly and you aren't getting a decent PG option back from them. It's a PG league, but there aren't a bunch of extras out there.

I don't think Brightside is suggesting that we have to trade Rubio for another PG. I think he's simply suggesting that we move on from Rubio and then he listed a sample of PGs that could be obtained either through trade or free agency.

[longstrangetrip [enjin:6600564]]

Rubio might be the best option right now but so what? We're 5-13. Start Tyus and bring Dunn off the bench. Play them both 24ish minutes a night (give or take a few). We have to see what we have a the position.

I think we know what we have. We have seen Tyus play full 4th quarters and edge his way into the rotation. He was also Ricky's primary backup after we traded Miller and moved LaVine to SG last season. Dunn started a few games for us when Ricky was hurt and he's still the first PG off the bench. What more do you need to see? I think Thibs has a pretty good idea about these guys.

Now, I could see going the soft tank route by trading Rubio now to add depth elsewhere and then rolling with Dunn and Jones just so that they get more reps. But it's not like these guys have been buried on the bench and we have no clue about their capabilities.

Q, I would argue that we may not know what we have in Jones...his defense is still somewhat of a mystery to me. I know his reputation is not good, but I'm beginning to wonder if he might be better than we think. We all know of his physical limitations (although he is bigger in his second year) but he does have some offsetting assets...quick hands, smarts and grit make up for some of his limitations. I'd like to see what he can do in a role other than the peculiar one Thibs has carved out for him...4th quarter specialist. I also want to develop Dunn to see if he can take advantage of his physical gifts, but if we want to win more than 23 games this year, Thibs can't continue to give him minutes...the guy isn't ready. Start Ricky, back him up with Tyus, D-League Kris.

[AbeVigodaLive]

I like Tyus Jones. I want him to succeed. But if we're counting on him to save the season?

No chance. The Wolves have 4 point guards on the roster. They're all different, except in one area: none are good enough right now. In fact, all have played far below a level that's needed to get this team anywhere close to .500 ball.

[Coolbreeze44]

I would say the board as an aggregate is about 73% Pork Chop right now. Pork, you've run a terrific campaign and the poll numbers are starting to reflect it.

[Q12543 [enjin:6621299]]

Rubio might be the best option right now but so what? We're 5-13. Start Tyus and bring Dunn off the bench. Play them both 24ish minutes a night (give or take a few). We have to see what we have a the position.

I think we know what we have. We have seen Tyus play full 4th quarters and edge his way into the rotation. He was also Ricky's primary backup after we traded Miller and moved LaVine to SG last season. Dunn started a few games for us when Ricky was hurt and he's still the first PG off the bench. What more do you need to see? I think Thibs has a pretty good idea about these guys.

Now, I could see going the soft tank route by trading Rubio now to add depth elsewhere and then rolling with Dunn and Jones just so that they get more reps. But it's not like these guys have been buried on the bench and we have no clue about their capabilities.

Q, I would argue that we may not know what we have in Jones...his defense is still somewhat of a mystery to me. I know his reputation is not good, but I'm beginning to wonder if he might be better than we think. We all know of his physical limitations (although he is bigger in his second year) but he does have some offsetting assets...quick hands, smarts and grit make up for some of his limitations. I'd like to see what he can do in a role other than the peculiar one Thibs has carved out for him...4th quarter specialist. I also want to develop Dunn to see if he can take advantage of his physical gifts, but if we want to win more than 23 games this year, Thibs can't continue to give him minutes...the guy isn't ready. Start Ricky, back him up with Tyus, D-League Kris.

That seems like the more sensible plan in the short-term. We just need to find a D-league team that has minutes available for Dunn. It seemed to do wonders for Tyus last season, although may be Dunn just doesn't have the innate b-ball IQ and poise that Thibs will ultimately want out of a starting PG. He can certainly defend, but damn, he has looked lost offensively. We can never have it both ways! Why oh why!!!

[Q12543 [enjin:6621299]]

I would say the board as an aggregate is about 73% Pork Chop right now. Pork, you've run a terrific campaign and the poll numbers are starting to reflect it.

Well, Ricky hasn't helped the cause this season. It's funny how we rarely heard from Pork or Duke when the team was playing well in the 2nd half of last season - they had nothing to add. Now folks have the torches and pitchforks out, but it is what it is. Ricky hasn't been part of the solution thus far, but our problems go far beyond PG play.

[longstrangetrip [enjin:6600564]]

Rubio might be the best option right now but so what? We're 5-13. Start Tyus and bring Dunn off the bench. Play them both 24ish minutes a night (give or take a few). We have to see what we have a the position.

I think we know what we have. We have seen Tyus play full 4th quarters and edge his way into the rotation. He was also Ricky's primary backup after we traded Miller and moved LaVine to SG last season. Dunn started a few games for us when Ricky was hurt and he's still the first PG off the bench. What more do you need to see? I think Thibs has a pretty good idea about these guys.

Now, I could see going the soft tank route by trading Rubio now to add depth elsewhere and then rolling with Dunn and Jones just so that they get more reps. But it's not like these guys have been buried on the bench and we have no clue about their capabilities.

Q, I would argue that we may not know what we have in Jones...his defense is still somewhat of a mystery to me. I know his reputation is not good, but I'm beginning to wonder if he might be better than we think. We all know of his physical limitations (although he is bigger in his second year) but he does have some offsetting assets...quick hands, smarts and grit make up for some of his limitations. I'd like to see what he can do in a role other than the peculiar one Thibs has carved out for him...4th quarter specialist. I also want to develop Dunn to see if he can take advantage of his physical gifts, but if we want to win more than 23 games this year, Thibs can't continue to give him minutes...the guy isn't ready. Start Ricky, back him up with Tyus, D-League Kris.

That seems like the more sensible plan in the short-term. We just need to find a D-league team that has minutes available for Dunn. It seemed to do wonders for Tyus last season, although may be Dunn just doesn't have the innate b-ball IQ and poise that Thibs will ultimately want out of a starting PG. He can certainly defend, but damn, he has looked lost offensively. We can never have it both ways! Why oh why!!!

I admit the whole D League thing is confusing to me, but ultimately those investing in these teams want to make money by putting butts in the seats. I gotta believe an athletic #3 pick like Kris Dunn would get 35-40 MPG right away on any team. See if 15 shots per game revives his offense. I think it would be good for him.