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Re: Goodbye LaVine, Dunn and 7

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:18 pm
by TheFuture
So we now added a player to our team that helps us get to the playoffs, maybe to the 2nd round. Yet we get rid of a 22,23, and a top 19 year old who we control for many years. Many here don't like the idea of just sitting pat because of gsw and LeBron, but that is reality. We had a chance to develop into a team to take over next, now we will develop into a treadmill west team who sees their next best players transpire as the current best player on our team falls off. Am not very intrigued by this deal.

Further, where does our 3 pt shooting come from? Rubio, Wiggins, Butler?!?! Yuck.

I'd be much happier seeing Rubio go instead of Dunn.

Re: Goodbye LaVine, Dunn and 7

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:18 pm
by khans2k5 [enjin:6608728]
Anyone know our cap space situation now? He wasn't on a big max and we sent some out. Still enough for another big name to take a big leap?

Re: Goodbye LaVine, Dunn and 7

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:19 pm
by Monster
This hurts me because Lavine is one of my favorite players in the entire league. Deep breaths....well we will see what happens and I may have to become a bit of a Bulls fan with my guy Hoiberg.

Re: Goodbye LaVine, Dunn and 7

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:20 pm
by TheFuture
khans2k5 wrote:Anyone know our cap space situation now? He wasn't on a big max and we sent some out. Still enough for another big name to take a big leap?


If my math is right we come out with about 7 mil less?

Re: Goodbye LaVine, Dunn and 7

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:21 pm
by khans2k5 [enjin:6608728]
TheFuture wrote:So we now added a player to our team that helps us get to the playoffs, maybe to the 2nd round. Yet we get rid of a 22,23, and a top 19 year old who we control for many years. Many here don't like the idea of just sitting pat because of gsw and LeBron, but that is reality. We had a chance to develop into a team to take over next, now we will develop into a treadmill west team who sees their next best players transpire as the current best player on our team falls off. Am not very intrigued by this deal.

Further, where does our 3 pt shooting come from? Rubio, Wiggins, Butler?!?! Yuck.

I'd be much happier seeing Rubio go instead of Dunn.


It takes a break or two to win a title. Think about all the OKC years that were drained because of injuries. The Spurs were up 30 on this elite Warriors team before Kawhi went down. It only takes one injury to make a team like GS vulnerable.

Re: Goodbye LaVine, Dunn and 7

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:21 pm
by longstrangetrip [enjin:6600564]
I liked the deal from the start, but I'm living it more and more.

We gave up:

1) a #7 pick that almost nobody here was very excited about
2) a 2nd year player who doesn't handle the ball well enough to be a PG, or shoot well enough to be a SG
3) An exciting player in Zach LaVine that we all liked, but who the numbers weren't kind to. Plain and simple, he didn't make us better.

And we got:

1) An all-star who is one of the top 5 2-way players in the league
2) a #16 pick that I think will become rim protector Jarrett Allen.

Thibs just became a much better defensive coach!

Re: Goodbye LaVine, Dunn and 7

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:21 pm
by TheFuture
monsterpile wrote:This hurts me because Lavine is one of my favorite players in the entire league. Deep breaths....well we will see what happens and I may have to become a bit of a Bulls fan with my guy Hoiberg.


Yeah, I'm super sad about that. LaVine had extreme 3pt stroke potential. His fit next to Wiggins and KAT was damn near perfect... I don't see it with Butler, wigg, and KAT.

Re: Goodbye LaVine, Dunn and 7

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:23 pm
by khans2k5 [enjin:6608728]
TheFuture wrote:
monsterpile wrote:This hurts me because Lavine is one of my favorite players in the entire league. Deep breaths....well we will see what happens and I may have to become a bit of a Bulls fan with my guy Hoiberg.


Yeah, I'm super sad about that. LaVine had extreme 3pt stroke potential. His fit next to Wiggins and KAT was damn near perfect... I don't see it with Butler, wigg, and KAT.


Hoiberg is probably praising Jesus that he finally got a shooter lol.

Re: Goodbye LaVine, Dunn and 7

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:24 pm
by TeamRicky [enjin:6648771]
khans2k5 wrote:Anyone know our cap space situation now? He wasn't on a big max and we sent some out. Still enough for another big name to take a big leap?


Butler make $18.7 mill. Lavine and Dunn collectively made $7 million something. Looks like we dropped 11-12 million. Our cap also depends if we got relief on cutting Pek.

Re: Goodbye LaVine, Dunn and 7

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:24 pm
by longstrangetrip [enjin:6600564]
TheFuture wrote:So we now added a player to our team that helps us get to the playoffs, maybe to the 2nd round. Yet we get rid of a 22,23, and a top 19 year old who we control for many years. Many here don't like the idea of just sitting pat because of gsw and LeBron, but that is reality. We had a chance to develop into a team to take over next, now we will develop into a treadmill west team who sees their next best players transpire as the current best player on our team falls off. Am not very intrigued by this deal.

Further, where does our 3 pt shooting come from? Rubio, Wiggins, Butler?!?! Yuck.

I'd be much happier seeing Rubio go instead of Dunn.


You make a good point about our 3-point shooting getting worse with this deal. But I still like it. I have to believe Thibs and Leydon have their eyes on some good 3-point shooters in free agency.