Minnesota Sports Forum

Camden wrote:

Q12543 wrote:Khans and Cam, You may be absolutely right about the players being soft and fragile. So what do you suggest Thibs does about it? If he isn't able to get through to them and he's not willing to change his own style, then what?

Andrew Wiggins: "We've got to find it within ourselves. There's nothing that the coach can do. There's nothing that the trainers can do. It's just the players. We've got to find it within ourselves."

I think that's what it comes down to. Thibs altering his scheme or changing lineups won't necessarily make the players stay engaged and execute. That's part of being a professional basketball player. Our guys need to become that and play for 48 minutes each night.

Well, that's a nice platitude. We hear this all the time from players when things aren't going well. What if it doesn't happen though? That's my question. Let's say we keep seeing the same thing. At what point do you consider doing something rash (excluding or in addition to trading Rubio, which I don't even think is very rash at this point)?

Yeah, what happens if KAT tells the coach to F off at some point and his agent tells Taylor that they're not looking forward to staying in Minny as is. What happens?

Keep in mind that KAT is probably talking to KG regularly and KG isn't exactly BFF with Thibs and Papa Glenn.

And I don't buy anything the players say when on the mike. Lip service, PR stuff, nothing else. KG praised Wiggins in public and was rumored to question his heart in private.

Q, let's say you're the new manager at an Olive Garden. You're the top dog, basically. You've been in the restaurant business for 20+ years. You've held different roles in different restaurants and everywhere you go, that particular business gets better -- more successful -- and part of that is because of your involvement. You just left IHOP after being one of the most profitable restaurants in the region for years to take on even more responsibility for a different franchise.

This Olive Garden you joined has struggled to succeed for decades, but they recently hired employees currently still in high school. These employees are quite smart, very personable, and physically capable of doing anything within the food industry. The only problem is that this is their first real job. They have little to no experience in the workplace.

You let them know their roles and responsibilities in order to create a successful work environment and a profitable store. Again, this isn't your first time. You know what it takes. You've been there, done that. Here's the problem: your immature, inexperienced employees aren't following instructions through your first couple of months. The restaurant is directly being affected by their mishaps and you're not profiting like you're used to.

Why would you, the manager, change your plan? You don't even know if the plan you put in place is the actual problem because your employees fail to comply and execute it! Also, why aren't they instead held accountable, and if they continue to come up short, shouldn't they be under consideration to be replaced by those who will actually do what you ask of them?

If Wiggins and his bad hands dropped and a pasta plate on my shirt I would sue that shithole of a place.

But seriously, that's a bad analogy.

Brooklyn_Wolves wrote:If Wiggins and his bad hands dropped and a pasta plate on my shirt I would sue that shithole of a place.

But seriously, that's a bad analogy.

It's a real world analogy. If things were the same in any other industry, the employees would be at fault and more than likely replaced. The only reason you would disagree with that is because you allow emotions to alter your point of view.

Brooklyn_Wolves wrote:Yeah, what happens if KAT tells the coach to F off at some point and his agent tells Taylor that they're not looking forward to staying in Minny as is. What happens?

Keep in mind that KAT is probably talking to KG regularly and KG isn't exactly BFF with Thibs and Papa Glenn.

That second line is just unbelievable speculation. Also, Towns is here for 6 more years after this one minimum whether he likes it or not. Players on rookie deals have 0 leverage to do anything about it. Thibs can just tell him to shut the fuck up and get in line if he's going to be a diva and there's nothing Towns can do about it.

Khans and Cam are the only sensible posters in this thread.

Camden wrote:

Brooklyn_Wolves wrote:If Wiggins and his bad hands dropped and a pasta plate on my shirt I would sue that shithole of a place.

But seriously, that's a bad analogy.

It's a real world analogy. If things were the same in any other industry, the employees would be at fault and more than likely replaced. The only reason you would disagree with that is because you allow emotions to alter your point of view.

Give me a break, you're comparing replacing NBA athletes and replacing freaking waiters and dishwashers.

I take that back, Cam is half making sense.