Kevin Love will not accept apology call from Kelly Olynyk

[Camden [enjin:6601484]]

Love had a nightmare season? There's a lot of guys that would kill for 17/10 a night. Now you're just irrationally bashing a player because you personally don't like him.

And if he had more character he would have stayed? News flash: great players leave teams all the time because they realize they can't win there. I think we'd all agree that Chris Paul is a pretty good dude. He forced his way out of New Orleans, but let's not be logical around here...

[longstrangetrip [enjin:6600564]]

Love had a nightmare season? There's a lot of guys that would kill for 17/10 a night. Now you're just irrationally bashing a player because you personally don't like him.

And if he had more character he would have stayed? News flash: great players leave teams all the time because they realize they can't win there. I think we'd all agree that Chris Paul is a pretty good dude. He forced his way out of New Orleans, but let's not be logical around here...

I agree that for most players 17/10 would not seem like a "nightmare season". But Kevin just can't seem to stay away from controversy...it's in his DNA. Do some research on his dad and his uncle. These guys are like Kevin...controversy and lack of relationships are their calling card too. Jeez, Kevin's dad wasn't even allowed to watch his high school basketball games!

Let's look at Kevin's season. It started with an orchestrated effort to exorcise his way out of Minnesota, complete with "vacations" in Boston and unfortunate interviews with ESPN where his use of 3rd person pronouns was analyzed nationally. Next comes a report that he had no friendships with anyone within a Wolves organization he was part of for 6 years, other than the towel boy. Then, after getting his wish to go play with the greatest player in the world plus another top ten player, this is what happens: the team underachieves and wins far fewer games than predicted, Kevin's stats are significantly reduced, reports are rampant that he doesn't get along with his teammates, other reports say that he is being "misused", and the coach detests his defense so much that he benches him in the 4th quarter of close games. And then for the cherry on top, after finally making the playoffs for the first time and actually playing a decent game, he gets tangled up with notorious thug Kelly Olynyk, suffers a shoulder separation, and has his season end. And has the nerve to accuse Olynyk of doing it on purpose! All that has happened to Kevin in just 12 months! Maybe it's business as usual for Kevin, but for any normal individual, it would certainly qualify as a "nightmare"!

[Camden [enjin:6601484]]

"vacations", "interviews"

Unless I'm remembering incorrectly, he had one trip to Boston (he claimed he had never been site-seeing there) and he said "they" a couple times on SportsNation. Other than that, he was the perfect unhappy player this off-season and we should be thankful for that. He didn't openly narrow it down to two bidding teams like Dwight Howard did and handcuff his franchise.

Who cares if he had friendships here or not? A lot of our players have either been foreign guys or somewhat "less-than-intelligent" black guys such as Beasley and Williams. I wouldn't expect him to have a bunch of friendships with those guys, and it's not what he was paid to do. Is it nice if the guys do hang out together off the court? Absolutely, but that's not their job. Love never had any issues with any teammates, and please don't bring up the one time he threw Barea under the bus (he deserved it anyway). I'll also remind you that Paul Pierce recently said that he wasn't really friends with Ray Allen. Does that matter at all? Their on-court relationship was good and that's all that mattered. You may retort that Pierce had other friendships, but my point remains the same. Friendship and on-court relationship are not mutually exclusive.

All of his Cleveland teammates denied those reports, calling them foolish. LeBron said him and Love weren't best friends, but they had zero problems with each other. Not to mention he was a stranger for the first several months because he didn't know any of the guys outside of one summer on team USA. The team underachieved because they were learning how to play with each other. Silly thing is, over the last 50 games of the regular season, they were the best team in the NBA and would have projected throughout that time to have a 60 win season over an 82 game period.

And lastly, Love was misused this season. He's being used at strictly a stretch-four and that nullifies his post game and passing from the elbow. As a coach, you're supposed to get the best out of your players. Can you reasonably say that Blatt has gotten the best out of Love? No, and it's not because Love doesn't have the talent. We've seen what he can do talent-wise.

[The Rage Monster [enjin:8010341]]

Love is an idiot, I'm sure he's seen a replay of the incident and anyone with 2 eyes (or even 1) can see there was absolutely nothing to this play. This is probably the most common play that happens under the basket when two guys are going for a rebound. The play even starts out with Love locking up Olynyk's arm, Love then extends his arm to hold off Olynyk and Olynyk locks the arm up to let his teammate grab the rebound.

Love is a baby and unless he matures I don't ever see him winning a title. I can't wait until the Wolves are relevant in a couple years and we're talking about how great Wiggins and LaVine are instead of how annoying Love is.

[khans2k5 [enjin:6608728]]

I don't think you can call the trade a win for us right now because Cleveland was the favorite to come out of the East with Love and we won 16 games with Wiggins and Bennett was hurt or didn't play much most of the year. If Cleveland wins a title with Love we can't ever win the trade because they would have a title out of it and that's the whole point of molding your team as a GM through the draft, free agency and trade anyway.

[Monster]

LST never accepted Love's apology. Lol

[Mstermisty [enjin:6864008]]

Love had a nightmare season? There's a lot of guys that would kill for 17/10 a night. Now you're just irrationally bashing a player because you personally don't like him.

And if he had more character he would have stayed? News flash: great players leave teams all the time because they realize they can't win there. I think we'd all agree that Chris Paul is a pretty good dude. He forced his way out of New Orleans, but let's not be logical around here...

16.4 ppg (down 9.7), 9.7 rpg (down 2.8), 43.4% from the floor (down .23%). Team underachieved (53 wins in the terrible East with Lebron, Kyrie and Love is hardly an achievement). Had problems with teammates. And now gets injured and basically misses the entire playoffs.

Then on top of everything that happened to him, the guy he's traded for excels, and Love has to listen to everybody (already) second guessing the trade (although I still personally agree at the time they had to to do it).

If this isn't a nightmare season for a player of Love's talent in his prime, I'm not sure what would be.

*edit: not sure why that smiley face shows up instead of an eight for Love's rebounds being down. Be happy for Love maybe? I am happy he forced his way out, that's for sure.

[khans2k5 [enjin:6608728]]

Love had a nightmare season? There's a lot of guys that would kill for 17/10 a night. Now you're just irrationally bashing a player because you personally don't like him.

And if he had more character he would have stayed? News flash: great players leave teams all the time because they realize they can't win there. I think we'd all agree that Chris Paul is a pretty good dude. He forced his way out of New Orleans, but let's not be logical around here...

16.4 ppg (down 9.7), 9.7 rpg (down 2.8), 43.4% from the floor (down .23%). Team underachieved (53 wins in the terrible East with Lebron, Kyrie and Love is hardly an achievement). Had problems with teammates. And now gets injured and basically misses the entire playoffs.

Then on top of everything that happened to him, the guy he's traded for excels, and Love has to listen to everybody (already) second guessing the trade (although I still personally agree at the time they had to to do it).

If this isn't a nightmare season for a player of Love's talent in his prime, I'm not sure what would be.

*edit: not sure why that smiley face shows up instead of an eight for Love's rebounds being down. Be happy for Love maybe? I am happy he forced his way out, that's for sure.

People are delusional if they think Wiggins is more than half the player in Cleveland that he became in MN. He had to become our number 1 option because of the injuries and that responsibility for most of the year helped him get better much faster. He never would have had the same opportunity in Cleveland to grow and get better. His season would have been much closer to how he played for us in his first month than his last. Then combine that with Love getting 25/12 here in MN because Flip was ready to hang on to him and how do you think they'd feel passing up on an all-star for Wiggins to be a secondary piece not getting better as fast because the opportunity and responsibility isn't there? Do you think Blatt would be posting Wiggins up and giving him the ball to get to the line at the rate he did for us? Those were the two areas that made him a good offensive player that he improved in most because of the opportunity and repetition he got here.

[thedoper]

Would anyone even dream of saying Love is a better 4 than Griffen now? His play is starting to match his character. I hope to god the Lakers sign him then he can be sad in sunny LA and live in Blake's shadow.

[TheGrey08]

16.4 ppg (down 9.7), 9.7 rpg (down 2.8), 43.4% from the floor (down .23%). Team underachieved (53 wins in the terrible East with Lebron, Kyrie and Love is hardly an achievement). Had problems with teammates. And now gets injured and basically misses the entire playoffs.

Then on top of everything that happened to him, the guy he's traded for excels, and Love has to listen to everybody (already) second guessing the trade (although I still personally agree at the time they had to to do it).

If this isn't a nightmare season for a player of Love's talent in his prime, I'm not sure what would be.

*edit: not sure why that smiley face shows up instead of an eight for Love's rebounds being down. Be happy for Love maybe? I am happy he forced his way out, that's for sure.

Everyone knew Love's scoring would drop substantially. Look at Bosh with the Heat & KG with the Celtics. It's very hard for a big 3 to all maintain their scoring numbers when brought together. It also didn't help that they have an idiot of a coach who didn't/doesn't know how to use him. I'd put most of the problems with the Cavs this year on the coach.