Grade The Trade - Analysis

[AbeVigodaLive]

Q predicted the Wolves would be 25 - 57. I predicted 26 - 56.

Seems like we were right. (although still too optimistic) But with how Cool dictates we can and cannot judge who's right (for him it's instantaneous... for us it's (xx months/years), I guess I have to wait for further proof that I might just know what I'm talking about more often than not...

So be it. But playing the board's resident asshole doesn't have to be his gimmick entirely. Others can play that role too when they grow tired of a 50+ year old man acting like a spoiled teenybopper.

[TheGrey08]

The thing I jump on the most is the quick to react negativity that we see sometimes. Some are so quick to jump on and rip young players for playing shitty when in reality that's what we should expect from most rookies.

As far as people's predictions, here's the thing.. If you make a negative prediction about a draft pick you are more likely to be right b/c a lot of them either bust or don't reach their potential. You are playing odds at that point.

[Coolbreeze44]

Q predicted the Wolves would be 25 - 57. I predicted 26 - 56.

Seems like we were right. (although still too optimistic) But with how Cool dictates we can and cannot judge who's right (for him it's instantaneous... for us it's (xx months/years), I guess I have to wait for further proof that I might just know what I'm talking about more often than not...

So be it. But playing the board's resident asshole doesn't have to be his gimmick entirely. Others can play that role too when they grow tired of a 50+ year old man acting like a spoiled teenybopper.

One thing I can say for sure, is I've never called anyone an asshole. But name calling does seem to fit your character.

[TheGrey08]

Q predicted the Wolves would be 25 - 57. I predicted 26 - 56.

Seems like we were right. (although still too optimistic) But with how Cool dictates we can and cannot judge who's right (for him it's instantaneous... for us it's (xx months/years), I guess I have to wait for further proof that I might just know what I'm talking about more often than not...

So be it. But playing the board's resident asshole doesn't have to be his gimmick entirely. Others can play that role too when they grow tired of a 50+ year old man acting like a spoiled teenybopper.

To be fair not a single person guessed we'd have half the team down with injuries for a big chunk of the year, especially the top 3 players going into the year. Because of those injuries I put absolutely 0 stock into those guesses including my own and simply throw that whole thing out.

[Coolbreeze44]

The thing I jump on the most is the quick to react negativity that we see sometimes. Some are so quick to jump on and rip young players for playing shitty when in reality that's what we should expect from most rookies.

As far as people's predictions, here's the thing.. If you make a negative prediction about a draft pick you are more likely to be right b/c a lot of them either bust or don't reach their potential. You are playing odds at that point.

You're right here but I'll add that it has to be repeated time after time, game after game. And then they want us to forget they ever said it when they end up looking stupid.

[AbeVigodaLive]

Q predicted the Wolves would be 25 - 57. I predicted 26 - 56.

Seems like we were right. (although still too optimistic) But with how Cool dictates we can and cannot judge who's right (for him it's instantaneous... for us it's (xx months/years), I guess I have to wait for further proof that I might just know what I'm talking about more often than not...

So be it. But playing the board's resident asshole doesn't have to be his gimmick entirely. Others can play that role too when they grow tired of a 50+ year old man acting like a spoiled teenybopper.

To be fair not a single person guessed we'd have half the team down with injuries for a big chunk of the year, especially the top 3 players going into the year. Because of those injuries I put absolutely 0 stock into those guesses including my own and simply throw that whole thing out.

There's always an excuse for the Wolves ineptitude. And the injuries did cost the team some wins. Obviously. But nobody can predict a perfectly healthy season. That's part of making prognostication. It's impossible to think everything would work out perfectly according to plan.

After all, last season the team was actually pretty healthy and finished with only 40 wins. And that was with Kevin Love playing pretty well.

[AbeVigodaLive]

Q predicted the Wolves would be 25 - 57. I predicted 26 - 56.

Seems like we were right. (although still too optimistic) But with how Cool dictates we can and cannot judge who's right (for him it's instantaneous... for us it's (xx months/years), I guess I have to wait for further proof that I might just know what I'm talking about more often than not...

So be it. But playing the board's resident asshole doesn't have to be his gimmick entirely. Others can play that role too when they grow tired of a 50+ year old man acting like a spoiled teenybopper.

One thing I can say for sure, is I've never called anyone an asshole. But name calling does seem to fit your character.

Seems fitting? Please link to any other time I've called somebody here anything close to an asshole... and I'll match it with literally dozens of insults you've lobbed at numerous posters here who dare think differently than you.

You've become the board's blowhard or boor or bully... or whatever you want to call it. I'm used to posting on troll sites. I'm cool with them because it's what they are. Fair enough. But you're genuinely a jerk to people repeatedly on a VERY good-natured board. Or what once was a good-natured board. This year has seen a plummet in the civility and discourse and I point my finger firmly at you and your attacks on people.

If I'm alone in this... fair enough. I can find other boards to post at... other Wolves boards. But I'm genuinely disappointed in what this board is becoming, because of your boorishness.

[TRKO [enjin:12664595]]

Well I think the whole plan on how to build changed when Love forced his way out. So it's hard to judge Flip on total. Trading a first rounder on Young and Payne are huge mistakes for a rebuilding team. That's really my only beef with Flip. We have two great building blocks in Wiggins and LaVine. We have most likely a top 4 pick, which will either be a C or a PG. Flip needs to avoid bad trades like the Payne one.

[Coolbreeze44]

Q predicted the Wolves would be 25 - 57. I predicted 26 - 56.

Seems like we were right. (although still too optimistic) But with how Cool dictates we can and cannot judge who's right (for him it's instantaneous... for us it's (xx months/years), I guess I have to wait for further proof that I might just know what I'm talking about more often than not...

So be it. But playing the board's resident asshole doesn't have to be his gimmick entirely. Others can play that role too when they grow tired of a 50+ year old man acting like a spoiled teenybopper.

One thing I can say for sure, is I've never called anyone an asshole. But name calling does seem to fit your character.

Seems fitting? Please link to any other time I've called somebody here anything close to an asshole... and I'll match it with literally dozens of insults you've lobbed at numerous posters here who dare think differently than you.

You go first. I'll match you tenfold... at least.

I didn't say you've done it many times, but you DID just say it. If I've ever insulted someone with petty name calling (it's been rare) I've owned up and apologized for it.

If you want a fight big boy, I'm ready for it. It would be a pleasure to match wits with you.

[AbeVigodaLive]

Well I think the whole plan on how to build changed when Love forced his way out. So it's hard to judge Flip on total. Trading a first rounder on Young and Payne are huge mistakes for a rebuilding team. That's really my only beef with Flip. We have two great building blocks in Wiggins and LaVine. We have most likely a top 4 pick, which will either be a C or a PG. Flip needs to avoid bad trades like the Payne one.

Yes... build on what's here and not do anything stupid in the interim. Save those asset for when they're actually needed to shore it up.